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- RoboDonut, on 11/25/2008, -7/+137Anyone else read the title and think that it was about Amazon.com logging information?
- Newswiseguy, on 11/25/2008, -8/+44maybe congress can give the loggers a trillion dollar bailout
- redcolumbine, on 11/25/2008, -4/+35Wow! I guess that means Brazil is showing some real backbone to preserve their rainforest legacy. Good for them.
- eastwood24, on 11/25/2008, -11/+42Screw these parasites, stop breeding and stop logging. (sorry if that seems harsh, but we must start protecting our ecosystem)
- Rikkochet, on 11/26/2008, -0/+19Look at everything you bought in the last year.
Don't be smug, you're part of the problem, too. - stgeorge, on 11/26/2008, -4/+21I agree, Amazon.com should not be logging our purchases.
- cheezintern, on 11/26/2008, -1/+16There are legal places to log, it's just more profitable to bribe local officials and cut virgin rain forest instead.
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -2/+13If you want oxygen so badly, how about you go out and get your own damn rainforest, you lazy parasite.
- purseonality, on 11/26/2008, -3/+14The sad part is that this is just part of their livelihood, and no matter how desperately we need to stop the illegal logging, the people who are most hurt couldn't give a spotted owl how bad it is for the planet. They just want to feed their families.
Can we help develop an alternative industry that would keep them employed and save the forests? - awesometastic1, on 11/26/2008, -3/+13I think it's important to keep a perspective though. In america, we pretty much use our natural resources with very little limits. In Brasil there is a lot of poverty and few resources other than lumber. Not saying it's a good thing that they log the rainforrest, but currently i'm sitting in a house made of wood and yet i'm telling them they can't log their wood.
We think "oh how horrible, they're ruining it for the world", but they are just trying to make a living and often clear land that can be farmed.
We do need them to stop, but i think it is very hypocritical for us to tell them to stop. If the brasilian government was smart, they'd charge the rest of the world to keep the rainforrest in tact. Then they could pay their unemployed workers and buy food from other countries because they lack adequate usable farm land.
After all, Brasil's number 1 export is basically oxygen for the rest of the planet. Currently we get it free. - eco57, on 11/25/2008, -5/+15We can't just say "screw you" to the loggers, or this is the result. You have to create a reasonable incentive for them to move into other industries.
- the2989, on 11/26/2008, -2/+11The Amazon is the whole world's business. After all, it produces a huge amount of the oxygen we need to live.
- umbrellainabin, on 11/26/2008, -0/+9GET THE ***** OFF DIGG YOU BITCH
- benologist, on 11/26/2008, -0/+8Yes. But in my defence....
I've got nothing. - drex8, on 11/26/2008, -0/+7Oh you're so going down!
- RNOblivion, on 11/26/2008, -5/+12I wonder if they thought about their carbon footprint left from burning the building and cars lol
- scoottie, on 11/26/2008, -2/+9illegal logging sucks .... keep logging legal
- sockpuppets, on 11/26/2008, -1/+7Go brazilian,
- Rikushix, on 11/26/2008, -0/+6A yellow card, perhaps.
- BlahTsk, on 11/26/2008, -0/+6Oh THAT Amazon.
- AresDiggs, on 11/26/2008, -0/+6it's ok... he just doesn't realize where Brazil is located
- Alphabet, on 11/26/2008, -1/+6if they want to feed their family, go get a different job. They're not forced to log, they just choose to. There's no need to develop an alternative industry.
They've been illegally logging for so long that they think it's normal. These illegal loggers don't own the land. Imagine if a logging company went to Yosemite Nation Park and starting cutting down all the trees. Or if you own a huge acre full of trees, and, all of a sudden, a bunch of asshats come by and starts cutting them all down. - Seemefearme, on 11/26/2008, -0/+5I got it.
- Alphabet, on 11/26/2008, -3/+8yea, just look at countries like china that don't bother trying to protect the environment. It turns into a ***** polluted hellhole.
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -0/+4This is really bad. This must be given a penalty.
- ZenMojo, on 11/26/2008, -1/+5Why do they care? They're rioting for the right to cut the forest down.
- buddamus, on 11/26/2008, -1/+5I can hear the chant now
"What do we want
The destruction of the rain forest
When do we want it
NOW" - Formaldehydex2, on 11/26/2008, -0/+4I'm taking a class right now that looks at issues like these, and things are more complicated then they appear. It's not just about preserving the rain forest. Though we may derive great enjoyment by observing the rain forest at a distance, those who live in the area see it as a critical resource. With poor farmers desperately looking for land to plow, and then the government tells them that the rain forest is to remain pristine, it creates tons of potential for conflict, as this demonstrated. Development coupled with environmental preservation is an extremely complex subject for the developing world, and we need to keep that in mind before we jump to conclusions and support one side over the other.
- LuckySephid, on 11/26/2008, -1/+5... yes because trying to stop illegal deforestation and protecting this place we live is stupid... or your a careless prick that should be tied to a rainforest tree during the logging
- AresDiggs, on 11/26/2008, -0/+4so that's a southern accent cause Brazil is in the south as in the way south.. like south American south?
- Paulmeirense, on 11/26/2008, -0/+4Vai tomar no cu!
- akchrs, on 11/26/2008, -1/+5I leave in Southeast Alaska in the Tongass forest, it's also a rain forest, but we log the ***** out of it.
- Vazel, on 11/26/2008, -1/+4I would think the health of the Amazon rainforest is the entire world's business. That rainforest was there long before the country of Brazil.
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3I thought that too, then I was like "wait, what?" after I read the description
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3You raise a good point - to me, the primary point of environmentalism is property rights - they don't own the land, so they shouldn't be allowed to wreck it. Likewise, you don't own the air and the water, so why should you get to trash it?
- Rivetgeek, on 11/26/2008, -4/+7your house was likely made from a tree farm. Not old growth rainforest. Big difference
- Catchpen, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3I thought the same. Shows how our heads are stuck staring at a computer screen all the time when the real crisis is happening in South America. The irony!
- inactive, on 11/26/2008, -1/+4The attitude of these protestors seems reminiscent of the attitude among some or many in the logging industry here in the United States. One ought to fight for one's right to make a living, however, that right always stops where one's form of employment puts the lives of others and, more truthfully, of all at risk. One's rights are always conditional on the consequences of exercising those rights. One's right to life is not so sacred as to outweigh the right of others to do the same. Across our history, there has been much posturing over who owns what, however, I happen to believe as many native americans believed and still do - the land, the environment belongs to no one and to everyone. One ought not be free to do as one pleases with an environment on which we all depend. You cannot replace that which is irreplaceable - hence the name. It's always surprising how many among us do not understand the concept.
Many industries dependent on natural resources have had or will have to scale back their operations because of dwindling resource. It never has made sense to consume the source of one's income until that resource was depleted. Why would anyone deliberately put themselves - and others - out of a job? The answer, I believe, is quite simple - ignorance, stupidity, laziness, apathy and an outright mean spirit. - inactive, on 11/26/2008, -1/+4Well, at least you admit to trolling. Admitting it is the first step.
- ZenMojo, on 11/26/2008, -1/+4I know. That's what happens when your government is more socially responsible than you are. Here in the states we vote for our government to ***** up our ***** and it works out nicely.
- roflomg, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3I predict a riot!
Great tune. Whoever dugg you down is a retard. - liuite, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3Amazon = the wild west
- Brassbud, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3Maybe you should educate yourself before you open your mouth.
http://akcf.org/_pages/programs_amp_initiatives/al ... - inactive, on 11/26/2008, -1/+4It's almost surreal to see the public protesting because the government is trying to do something responsible in terms of an environmental issue.
It's like imagining people protesting in front of Congress because the government outlaws Dutch Boy from dumping old paint into a river. - Nick2632, on 11/26/2008, -0/+3Not only did I notice it, but I thought about writing that very comment myself only to click on the article and see that someone else had already done so.
- awesometastic1, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2@ Rivetgeek
that's exactly my point. they don't have tree farms in Brasil. Most of their usable land is covered in rainforrest. - slapthemonkey, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2Might is definitely not right
- clat98, on 11/26/2008, -3/+5I don't even know what to say about this, sucks to be loggers I guess. What would YOU do if you had all of your investments in timber cutting supplies if you all of a sudden were told to go cut trees down somewhere so far away you couldn't make a profit anymore? It would suck but I guess you just liquidate and move on. Stealing is for sure a wrong choice though, I wish I knew more about the situation. It seems outrageous that so many people would turn to such anarchy.
- primehifi, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2Beat me too it.... dugg for great minds thinking alike.
- elbowwoble, on 11/26/2008, -0/+2It's easy to sit here in the United States and comment on how terrible these people are. People that are only trying to provide for their families. Nobody wants to destroy the world. But if you have to choose between logging rainforest and watching your family starve....
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