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- KraftDinner101, on 01/23/2008, -4/+81Even correcting the loss percentage from 44 to 15 percent is still overstating their losses. The fact that they calculate loss as the number of people who download a movie or song is a statistical fallacy. Just because someone downloads a movie/song doesn't mean they were going to go buy/watch/listen to it in the first place.
- entrophize, on 01/23/2008, -3/+68#1 Reason for RIAA hatred = The RIAA.
- awldun, on 01/23/2008, -1/+44Get off my lawn!
/shakes cane angrily. - cawpin, on 01/23/2008, -2/+41It also doesn't mean that they didn't ALSO actually buy it.
- Dipster, on 01/23/2008, -2/+34You'd think that suing customers of the future would make for fewer sales.
- InferiorWang, on 01/23/2008, -1/+31Imagine that. The same people that don't have extra money for outrageously priced music are also the ones that can't afford a good defense in court.
- Aero347, on 01/23/2008, -2/+27Educated people are easy targets? Sounds to me like the RIAA and MPAA just want death by a Class Action Lawsuit.
- ramenite, on 01/23/2008, -2/+24What I never understood, is why didn't more students take advantage of the student legal departments.
Most universities have either a department where students can get free legal or, have associations with legal firms in the area that take student cases pro bono. A majority of students don't realize the services that are available to them though their university(that you pay for via your tuition). And these are lawyers that are representing YOUR interest, not the university's.
Normally this is used for things like landlord disputes, etc. But I'd assume a civil suit from a record company would also let you use their services.
Most students don't realize the services that are available to them though their university(that you pay for via your tuition). - Khast, on 01/23/2008, -1/+23MPAA are going down because they keep raising the cost of the movie ticket prices on crappy movies. Then whine because they are losing money. Tip: stop producing crappy movies, and keep the ticket prices below $10. When I go to the movies and the total cost of JUST inside the theater is $125 for 4 people, there is a problem. (4 sodas, 1 popcorn, and 4 tickets for the movie.)
RIAA: They are going to fail because the technology is changing. They complained about cassette recorders and lobbied against dual cassette players. Now the technology allows movies and music to be transferred online at relatively high speeds. Searching for your favorite music is as easy as going to google, and often has links to mp3 files. DRM is a failed platform, it often causes more problems on the computer than just can't play music. (in 2001, I had to install DRM on my computer, unless I paid 99cents per song I already had on my computer it would corrupt them and make them unplayable.....I also composed music.....I lost about 2 years of MY OWN MUSIC thanks to these @$$holes.) - jhaitas, on 01/23/2008, -4/+23***** the RIAA and the MPAA
- brufleth, on 01/23/2008, -6/+23I was in college at the height of Napster's popularity. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that maybe just MAYBE they target college kids because they are downloading massive amounts of copyrighted material.
- jaytek13, on 01/23/2008, -1/+18Personally, the RIAA's actions have made me less inclined to purchase music legitimately, whether it be through digital downloads or physical media, when I know that doing so will put money in their pockets.
- BDOUG, on 01/23/2008, -2/+18Whether you agree with the RIAA or not... suing people over unauthorized duplication doesn't seem to be helping the record companies any (it's probably just helping the lawyers). Rolling Stone recently published an article about how many music industry folks are getting laid off. Lots of people are getting hurt on both sides of the issue. Allowing Amazon to offer DRM free music is a smart step in the right direction. I speculate that they'll give up on the lawsuits eventually.... those lawyers have got to be looking mighty expensive with flagging sales numbers and layoffs in the background.
- Shaman760, on 01/23/2008, -2/+17And the 18-25 year old musicians are exactly who the RIAA looks towards to perpetuate their sick system of indentured servitude.
The RIAA needs to be executed with extreme prejudice. - MattB123, on 01/23/2008, -1/+16No matter who wins, the lawyers always win.
- Dalrek, on 01/23/2008, -1/+15True, but as the article points out, the Industry itself admits that they only lose 15% of their revenue to college students. The other 85% is out there untouched in loss revenue due to pirating, yet us college students get the hate. It's a smart business decision to go after the small fry and try to scare the larger fish, but it's a bad business decision to make a generation grow up hating you in return.
Granted, as I've learned as of late, rarely does what the common collective of the internet believe in any way relate to the actual sentiments of the people. At least in the US. - NJank, on 01/23/2008, -1/+15welcome to the internet. you must be new here.
- manofsteele54, on 01/23/2008, -0/+14SUPPORT THE ARTISTS...NOT THE RECORD LABELS
- Subriot, on 01/23/2008, -1/+15♫♪ The RIAA, destroying our freedoms, one lawsuit at a time. ♪♫
- quomen, on 01/23/2008, -4/+17***** THE RIAA
- purag66, on 05/13/2009, -5/+17Obligatory, ***** the RIAA.
- Maddoktor2, on 01/23/2008, -1/+12Remember, kids - there's only one way to deal with a bully...
- jerbaker, on 01/23/2008, -0/+10:::scratching head::: "Why are CD sales declining every year? We'd better sue some more people."
I can't wait until they start suing people for NOT buying CDs. - katrayun, on 01/23/2008, -0/+10They may be educated, but they tend to be inexperienced in legal matters, and always lacking in funds.
- MagicXB, on 01/23/2008, -1/+11The #1 Reason for College Students' Hatred of RIAA = Ridiculous Lawsuits.
#2 Reason: Expensive prices.
#3 Reason: Restrictive DRM.
#4 Reason: Crappy music.
#5 Reason: Ignorant Corporation Practices.
Did I mention they're just not very nice people? - whatwhatwhoa, on 01/23/2008, -1/+10agreed... 10$ per movie is way too much. Why not wait and rent it for 5$ so all your FRIENDS call see it too. That's my logic. I only go to see the ones in theaters that i have to absolutely see in high quality.
- ChainerX, on 01/23/2008, -0/+8Precisely, I've downloaded some weird mislabeled porn on accident. I definitely wouldn't have bought that, well maybe if they mislabeled the case.
- Flatlineskillz, on 01/23/2008, -1/+9My schools attorney from the student legal department was awesome. He reminded me of the lawyer from Arrested Development. He wore sneakers with his suit. He spent his days getting kids off for fake IDs (me included), public urination and possession tickets. I bet he got paid pretty well too. Not a bad gig.
- Navicerts, on 01/23/2008, -0/+8I think the article missed the biggest loss these companies have had. If they had embraced digital technology early on and dropped prices to a reasonable level they would be pulling money in hand over fist (iTunes or NetFlix picked up on this late in the game, because they were held back by the MPAA early on too).
- adooga, on 01/23/2008, -1/+8#1 Reason for comment = I have a keyboard.
- inactive, on 01/23/2008, -2/+9The RIAA is a characteristic american politicized device and it exhibits the characteristic hatred of poverty, youth, alternative values. The US is closer to a civil war than anyone there has an idea.
- DeadBabyFloat, on 01/23/2008, -0/+7Where the ***** are you going that charges $23.50 for a movie????
- inactive, on 01/23/2008, -0/+7FTA: "After all, isn't this the group that, according to RIAA spokeswoman Cara Duckworth, "has reached a stage in life when their music habits are crystallized, and their appreciation for intellectual property has not yet reached its full development"?
Wow. I'm glad I don't call into that category. My music habits weren't even close to crystallized at that age and since I was working for a start-up I had a full knowledge and appreciation for intellectual property.
I can't imagine things are any different now but if they are I sure am glad I'm not in that "group". - yotadriver, on 01/23/2008, -0/+7I just baught Family Guy: Blue Harvest the other day. It came with the dvd and a digital copy on another disk as well. It's the first time i have seen this but I think its a great idea. I guess the reason why the big production guys aren't doing this is purely out of greed. Change with the times or go bankrupt. It's that simple...
- RockeN5, on 01/23/2008, -0/+6How did you lose your own music compositions? Finale and Sibelius save in their own file format, and Sonar keeps all of your wave files in a seperate folder. I'm sorry to hear you lost your stuff, regardless of how it happened.
And I also think $125 is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too much! - inactive, on 01/23/2008, -2/+8Corporations are machines, they'll exploit any and everything to make a buck. PR doesn't matter even if all they get is negative attention for attacking students.
- AsSubtleAsABrik, on 01/23/2008, -0/+6What the RIAA doesn't realize is that they aren't losing any money from me pirating music. College students can't afford to pay for it. They are idiots because they are targeting the only group that does not have the means at all to purchase their overpriced CD's. I mean seriously, I eat Ramen for dinner 3 nights a week because I don't have that much money, how the hell am I supposed to pay for music? Maybe I don't pay for their music but I spread the word and I'm sure this has led others to purchase it.
***** them. - adooga, on 01/23/2008, -0/+6If you were saving directly to mp3 I'm guessing you weren't to attached to those recordings anyway.
- MacEnvy, on 01/23/2008, -0/+6My alma mater's legal office recommends students pay the extortionist "settlement" fee and avoid court. Of course, this is the same legal office that decided our IT department must comply with RIAA/MPAA requests to ID students by IP address without a subpoena. So in other words they're just useless CYA lawyers who have no sense of right and wrong, only win vs. lose.
- wingo123, on 01/23/2008, -0/+6Wow, people still use Finale? I'm having flashbacks to 1992... ;)
But yeah, not only are they charging WAY too much for movies (I think the Arclight in Hollyweird is $14), but you have to watch 10 minutes of ads. FREAKING ADS. And that's before the trailers. Isn't that why FM radio and broadcast TV are FREE? Because they're paid for by ads?
Then you have all this product placement ***** all over now (more ads), and they spend WAY too much making these damn movies. $20 Million for Jim Carrey (multi-millionaire already) to play some dufus in a flop movie is retarded. And who knows how much those CEOs are making. How about cutting cost/salaries, and passing the savings onto the consumer? Nobody deserves to make that much money for working 10 weeks. I don't care how famous you are.
And what's so great about going to the theater these days, anyway? My living room 'home theater' is much more comfortable, food is cheaper, and you don't have jerks yapping the whole time behind you. - snatchmstr, on 01/23/2008, -0/+6This is apples and oranges. I see enough people that can't drive anyway let alone with a phone.
- Radian, on 01/23/2008, -1/+6If you are a college student, the RIAA and MPAA look at you as "low hanging fruit". If that statement offends you, good, it should.
Why would a giraffe climb up a tree to get the hardest-to-reach fruit when it can stand on the ground and easily pick off the low-hanging fruit? Most bang for the buck. When it costs you money to pursue a lawsuit, go for the ones most likely to settle.
Similarly, why would the RIAA try to go after Joe Consumer with his public high-speed internet connection, when college campuses are seen as a gathering of scared, naive, guilty "low hanging fruit". "Take one of 'em out, and the rest will change their evil ways!!!"
Another way of viewing it is this.... think of the movies where a gangster cuts off the finger/ear/other body part of an enemy, and sends the person back to the hive, hoping to instill fear and send the message "I mean business." Well, that tactic might actually work in the tight social environment of a college campus. Word spreads quickly. However if you sue Mary Jane Consumer for downloading 10 Britney Spears songs, not as many people are going to see the impact of that first-hand. - NJank, on 01/23/2008, -0/+5dude, please break down that $125.
- snatchmstr, on 01/23/2008, -1/+6Agreed. Same here.
- protogenxl, on 01/23/2008, -0/+5It occurs to me the RIAA has not gone after one single Ivy League School.
- andycr512, on 01/23/2008, -0/+5You do something about it by not buying their music. I haven't purchased an RIAA-label album in years.
- adooga, on 01/23/2008, -0/+4Honestly, I had no idea that's what it meant...
- Azuroth, on 01/23/2008, -0/+4Let's see. 10 per ticket. 7.50 for a large drink, 10 for a large popcorn? Those prices seem high to me, and that still "only" comes out to 80.
- inactive, on 01/23/2008, -1/+5Sometimes I want to bitch slap anyone I see in a music store! And those of us who are with the program, its not enough, work harder, the music stores gotta go.
Support independent music producers/artists! - Aero347, on 01/23/2008, -0/+4Unless they know their rights. In which case the RIAA has to change those rights to suit themselves
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