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- FallenWings, on 10/11/2007, -1/+31This guy is *everywhere* on TV these days. Doesn't he ever do any... you know... physics stuff?
- quoquo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+15wikipedia links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
- the type I, II, III scale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_Sphere
- how a type I civ can harvest the energy of the sun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_probe
- how a type II civ can explore the universe (self-replicating spacecraft)
- arbulus, on 10/11/2007, -13/+28Religion is the one thing that truly holds our civilization back from progress. Once religion is done away with, we will truly begin to evolve as a people and be ABLE to move toward world peace.
- jester55, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18i saw this when it aired on TV. this guy does lots of these types of documentaries. he makes some interesting points.
- Revovisionary, on 10/11/2007, -10/+23I think we can go type one as soon as we do away with religion and obtain world peace.
- Wonderkind, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16"he makes some interesting points."
VERY interesting points.
He may be as wrong as the people who, many years ago, predicted that we would all be in flying cars by 1950, and eating nothing but Tang and Cheez-Whiz. But his explanations are very clear and some of the points he makes are
excellent from the position that the rate of change is coming at us VERY fast.
I think he would concede that no one can predict much, other than patterns of behavior.
Before the net was "invented", no one I knew ever spoke of anything like it. It was inconceivable to 99% of the population. Now it's more commonly used than newspapers and television combined.
What fantastic, world changing technology will come along in the next decade or two?
We can't know yet, and we can't know the impact it will have on all of us, and our insignificant predictions. - achillis01, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Is he answering 'The Last Question'. Isaac Asmov anyone?
- sovereign3, on 10/11/2007, -7/+13The assault on religion is unfair. One could easily argue that without the advent of religion there would have no been no means to create the civilizations that we live under today. Religion serves a purpose. It has allowed societies to develop under moral and legal codes. The vast majority-- if not all-- of our laws have developed from religious doctrine and morality. In a world without religion there would be no moral constraint and thus individuals would be free to pursue whatever indulgences they saw fit, including rape, murder, or thievery.
Religion is universal. Every society that that had or has thrived in some form or another has had a religious tradition. Whether it is one of the major monotheistic traditions of Christianity, Islam, or Judaism, or one of the several hundred thousand animistic traditions of indigenous Africa and North America. Chinese civilization would have never been born without Confucianist philosophy. No civilization would have emerged; not the Romans, the Egyptians, the West, or even the Orient.
I think instead of trying to find a way to eradicate all religion, we should instead seek to find a way for them to coexist peacefully. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6and then again maybe you could learn to hit the reply button to... um... reply to someone.
- dn11, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5"This guy is *everywhere* on TV these days. Doesn't he ever do any... you know... physics stuff?"
Basically I think Kaku fancies himself as the new Carl Sagan - he wants to be the "great communicator" to the uneducated masses about science. - AntBing, on 10/11/2007, -7/+12Science needs both types of people if it is going to destroy religion.
- Greatn3ss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"Once you become a type 3 civilization you're immortal. Nothing can destroy a type 3 civilization."
Except Luke Skywalker. - Genghis1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6This is an inspiring and intelligent video. Too bad it is way over the heads of most American politicians.
- FlapJaw, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I love this guy
- liquidjamm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Arnold For President !!! We are type 1!!! Get down now!!!
- tombangski, on 10/11/2007, -6/+9Oh yes, the evil religions of the world! We will live in a sparkling utopia with world peace and unicorns once religion is gone.
I hate referencing South Park but it makes a great point: "Go God Go" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_God_Go - OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Just to clarify my earlier comment, I was responding to dotMH's logically flawed premise that without religion, we'd have no reason not to kill off stupid people, which I think is dumb.
I think religion does a lot of harm in the world, but this is only a symptom of a problem. It sounds cliche, but people want to herd up too much. People are led too easily. They want someone to tell them what they believe and how they should act, because those choices are perceived as too difficult by most people.
Once religion is gone, people are going to find brand new ways to be idiots.
I think Sovereign3's comment is overrated too. I don't get my morals from any holy book; no one does. Have you any idea how barbaric the Bible is? - feebie, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5To move on in this path, I think we humans need to learn to use different parts of our brains more effectively.
And we don't neccessarily need to absolve religion, but we need to start on a path of learning and acceptance. We should help people understand why other people don't believe in the same things they do, and that it's ok for that to happen.
For example, picketing with signs that say "God hates fags" or "Abortion kills" does absolutely nothing for the advancement of our culture or safety of our planet, and I doubt anyone who opposes those views would look at the pickets and think "Well, that's a good point. I'm changing my mind!"
It's much more peaceful to become humble with your opinions and accept the fact that they are not the rule of the world, and neither are anyone else's.
Sure, you could stop boys from kissing other boys, but in the meantime our planet will continue dying in front of our eyes. - dn11, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5i don't think religion is the ONLY thing holding us back from utopia... not even close. without religion mankind finds other doctrines and creeds to divide and control the populace - just look at the history/present state of communism.
- stimpack, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Its a logical extrapolation from the fact that all the elite countries speak English. No spanish speaking country is anywhere close to elite. Chinese is very insular.
A spanner in the works maybe when America becomes Spanish majority, then Spanish may get a big boost. - brimg87, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Tolerance is the key here. Coming together for a common goal is what we need to do. An example of this would be the European Union; now we need that on a global scale. When people can put their differences aside (IE: religion) and work towards humanity there is no limit to what we can do or become. It's the natural evolution of civilization. A lack of tolerance leads to nothing, but destruction, but if you work together things all of a sudden get better for EVERYONE. Simple in concept, one person makes a difference.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Straight out of his book, "Hyperspace"
Good book, and good video! - JonForTheWin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Sounds to me like he's advocating a global government, and any one who opposes a global government does so because of xenophobia instead of gee a uh I dunno common ***** sense?
"stop the nuclear fires from exploding"?
THIS is a ***** physicist? - quoquo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4he's not a pompous ass, that slot is reserved for Louis XVI.
plus it's not his theory, but yes he believes it it. why, because it's not a religious prophecy but a rather realistic scientific theory about progress of civilizations and the future of our civilization, and you have to admit that it makes a lot of sense. he's not hating on anybody but those people who stand in the way of that process: haters. - rye419, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2very soon there will be more english speakers in china than in all of north america
- maduin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I guess I have to download 2001 now, I've never actually seen it before. It'll be fun to watch it with those ideas in mind.
- dn11, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2yes, I've heard Kaku address it directly - speculating that type 3+ civilizations would have the ability to create their own universe in which to escape into
- dbz253, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4kind of ties in with the story of the athiest who talks with god.
and if you haven't read it, please don't just assume it is someone trying to push religion as it has nothing at all to do with that.
http://www.fullmoon.nu/articles/art.php?id=tal - dn11, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3he is not modest, that's for sure, but I enjoy his ideas anyhow. I first heard him on Art Bell of all places many years ago.
- Mexrocker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2@FallenWings (#6953196)
I know I saw him a few times getting a few things from the vending machine before his Astronomy class, he taught during my Chemistry class this past semester. As far as physics goes... not sure... - endrid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1He is a smart man, and he makes good points. However I don't agree with his assumption that just because you are wary about a one world system then you are a terrorist. That is a dangerous assumption because this planet has rarely ever had a community that was completely closed off to other communities. We don't know what would happen here if there was only one government. What if the type 1,2, or 3 civilization was a tyrannical one? What if the leader was a hitler, or a pol pot?
I think it is dumb to assume that a one world government would be free of corruption, and equal rights for all... in fact history shows that most governments become more corrupt with the more power they acquire. So how much more power would a leader had if they ruled the world?? - psygnisfive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1That was a regime change, that's all. No civilizations destroyed.
:P - louiej15, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Kaku was actually my Astronomy Professor at City College. He's a cool guy but arrogant as hell.
- tyywebb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Dude 100 years? I think he is forgetting about the advent of hyper-intelligent machines!! Kind of depressing though if mankind had nothing to do with colonizing the galaxy and all the fun was left to our metallic/nanotechnological progeny.
- dagnome1984, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1He comes off as a super statist.
- dn11, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1have to be careful with the parenthesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale - bxjam85, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Your a sick man, lol. You are correct that war has progressed human technology in the past and in the present, but we no longer need war to progress human civilization and we haven't for a long time now. No disrespect, but your view on this is primative. Today's war has the potential to set civilization back on it's ass! I agree that war in some form or another must continue in order to rid the world of tyranny/dictatorship, but it doesn't always have to be a war of violence. Information wars are being waged daily and that is also changing the world.
- bxjam85, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Someone stated that the criticism of religion is unfair. That is not correct, for the criticism received for criticizing religion is what is unfair. There are real points to be made about the danger of religion in our day and age. I admit that religion was once needed to explain the unknown and keep certain things in "order", but it is no longer needed. We have evolved beyond that now, because of the science revolution science and in some cases mysticism/spiritualism can now take the place of religion. It is a myth that religion stops people from committing immoral actions. The USA has one of the highest crime rates in the world and it is organically religious. Nations such as the Great Britain, Sweden, Canada, & the Netherlands, which are organically atheist have very low crime rates, lower divorce rates and overall societal security. All three major religion have committed very immoral acts in there history. Remember that religion came from man and not a God and therefore any righteous morality in religion is within man. The belief that these religious morals come from God is what makes people think it works better, but in reality it doesn't and never has.
- PeteyUK, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3that was amazingly interesting. Thanks for the submission
- bxjam85, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Actually a world government is not what most people think it is. Human beings are fearful beings and there are always those who think a huge change like a world government would bring about more bad than good. In a world government there is not one king ruling over everyone. It will be federal, which means that nations will be able to have true sovereignty. Global trade, economy and law will be regulated by this federal government and no nation will be able to go to war with another because they will be disarmed. There will be a true world police, who will handle global issues that a national police force cannot. Find out more about it below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_government#History_of_the_world_government_idea
WORLD FEDERAL GOVERNMENT - murraybuckley, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0One thing that always strikes me about these theorists is that they seem closed-minded. Now, I'm sure that sounds like an absurd thing to say, but think about it – we have the notion of "robots," but who's to say aliens wouldn't have something different? Same with the idea of an economy: our cultures have them, but why would extraterrestrial cultures necessarily have them?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4I know ill get dugg down but i think that world peace to achieve type 1 civilization is highly unlikely, warfare is the only way to make real paradigm shifts in technology and science, and religion is a great way to get people to fight ,it doesn't matter what we fight for,whether it be oil or Allah or some ratty piece of desert land . the thirst for battle must be quenched.
- baron162, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I thought the exact same thing.
His assumption that terrorists are terrorists because they are arrogant and intolerant to other nations is wrong.
His other points made sense, but that one eludes me. - JohnnyRad, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2that guy's a type 2 freak
- dn11, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Kaku seems to be a bit fairly optimistic that some sort of "warp drive" technology is possible
- djrocksteady, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Personally, I don't believe type 3 civilizations are all that probable, due to restrictions on galactic travel (i.e. the speed of light barrier ). I think we are destined to be "Masters Of Our Solar System", but nothing more. Possible communication with other star systems, but no real galactic community.
- OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Our evolution is based on advancing our technology so that weaker humans can live. Wiping out stupid people kind of goes contrary to what we're about. Perhaps we'd be interested in curing their affliction by educating them? Wouldn't more great minds working on this type 1 civilization thing be a good thing and advance our progress?
- Revovisionary, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3OK yeah eradicating religion would be like eradicating superstition. It's going to always exist. However removing religions grasp in global politics would be a step in the direction of world peace. I'm not saying that in of itself will create world peace, just one giant leap towards it.
- Revovisionary, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1@OneAndOnlySnob
I wasn't talking about wiping out people... That only fuels religion (look at the middle east). I'm talking about wiping out the idea or to use a better word; wiping out the "meme!" -
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