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- Angel1379, on 10/10/2007, -23/+2Started boring but I couldn't stop laughing when he started doing his stupid punches. And those students that ful when he does his stupid voice...wtf????? my little brother punches will beat those moves
- fhernand, on 10/10/2007, -8/+22not very lethal.. they kept standing up again.. some even found it funny
- SuperWinner, on 10/10/2007, -10/+1Might be a better planet if these "arts" for killing and maiming each other were lost forever....
- TooManyHobbies, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6It's called "Self-Defense." The idea is that you can hold your own against someone who is attacking you.
- achoi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2If you want to be lethal, carry a gun. TKD is a sport. People practice it regularly to keep fit., not to kill. It just happens that when you are more fit than the other guy, then you will outlast the other guy.
- SuperWinner, on 10/10/2007, -10/+1Might be a better planet if these "arts" for killing and maiming each other were lost forever....
- liatsh, on 10/10/2007, -40/+2No wonder the Japanese lost the war to us. they ***** don't know how to fight (No offense to all you Japanese there)
- stotty, on 10/10/2007, -6/+21You need a map from Miss California me thinks. Tae Kwon Do is a Korean martial SPORT/self defence system. Nothing to do with the Japanese, whose martial ARTS would trounce the average Tae Kwon Do practitioner.
- tony134340, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15You can bet they'll take no offense at that.
- flogistan, on 10/10/2007, -17/+0Why do people dig liatsh's comment down when it's completely true.
- KnightWhoSaysNi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Because Tae Kwon Do has nothing to do with Japan (for starters).
- fabiosir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm not saying the original comment was correct, but there are a lot of simlarities between TKD and Karate based on Japanese occupation of Korea. There are a number of moves designed explicitly to counteract the Japanese way of fighting. Before this, the was Hworang Do.
- SkuLLpHucT, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Because Tae Kwon Do isn't Japanese, professor. It's Korean. :
- db113456, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4And because you (beat) the Japs using nuclear bombs, not once but twice.
If you beat someone at a war using overwhelming power and violence , that does mean they are not brave, rather it means you are more powerful and violent.- gbro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Yeah it takes a brave person to execute POW's after you've starved them.
- KnightWhoSaysNi, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Because Tae Kwon Do has nothing to do with Japan (for starters).
- genezorz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3It's already been said but it's Korean. Way to be an idiot. Idiot.
- dorotixel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Dugg for the zoom effects
- dildoolielly, on 10/10/2007, -14/+31People who take their children to learn this crap are given a false sense of security.
TKD is a Sport, not a very effective self-defense mechanism.- JavertHolmes, on 10/10/2007, -2/+55Given the large amount of time spent sitting in front of a computer, sitting at a cell phone/blackberry texting, sitting in front of a TV, sitting inside a classroom, I'd say taking your children to ANY PLACE which promotes some level of cardio activity is a net good.
- shortarabguy, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Still, every time I watch people do Tae Kwon Do, I can't help but feel more assured that it's all one big joke. It might be good cardio exercise, but I've never seen it serve any fighting purpose. Tae Kwon Do "masters" wouldn't have a fighting chance against someone skilled in another, more legitimate, fighting style.
No pun intended.- fabiosir, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Obviously you're using the quotations legitimately. People who've studied TKD for over 40 years might not look like they're using TKD when, or if, they fight, but it's more a question of effectiveness. Spirit of bruce lee, in laymen's internet terms.
- dildoolielly, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Even though I agree with you, you missed my point entirely.
- idiotech, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Yes, it's not really about doing anything physical. It's about the fact that TKD isn't a very good for of "self-defense" and I happen to agree with that completely.
- mtrip, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sport TKD, but the simple and violent techniques this guy is using would be effective.
- shortarabguy, on 10/10/2007, -4/+8Still, every time I watch people do Tae Kwon Do, I can't help but feel more assured that it's all one big joke. It might be good cardio exercise, but I've never seen it serve any fighting purpose. Tae Kwon Do "masters" wouldn't have a fighting chance against someone skilled in another, more legitimate, fighting style.
- floppyparty, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Teeeeeemple Puuunnnnnnncccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
- Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2For once, I totally agree with you.
- drakelord, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Depends on what kind of Tae Kwon Do you learn. 99% of the schools in America are sport TKD, yes. But if you ever take a traditional level Tae Kwon Do course, it is very different. Legs can be lethal weapons if you know how to use them, and WHEN to use them. Traditional TKD also incorporates a lot of basic Jiu Jutsu moves and hand techniques, and focuses far less on forms and "sparring" practice.
- igraham09, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Having spent 12 years doing karate, I can safely say that if I was to be in a conflict with someone of equal or slightly larger size than me, I would be able to handle myself pretty well.
But hey, that's just my second degree black belt talking.- Scytale, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Unless that person knew anything about grappling. Watch the first few UFCs to learn what happens if you don't know how to defend against takedowns and submissions. As a famous grappler once said, "The ground is the water and I am a shark. You don't even know how to swim."
I have a black belt in TKD - then I learned about Mixed Martial Arts...- mikemil828, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Depends on the martial art. Where I was trained, they taught you how to punch like a boxer, grapple like a wrestler, kick like a kickboxer, throw judo style and so forth
- Scytale, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There are a few TKD schools out there that actually teach progressive MA - but that isn't really TKD is it? I'd also say those are the exception instead of the rule, at least here in South Carolina.
- Scytale, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Unless that person knew anything about grappling. Watch the first few UFCs to learn what happens if you don't know how to defend against takedowns and submissions. As a famous grappler once said, "The ground is the water and I am a shark. You don't even know how to swim."
- JavertHolmes, on 10/10/2007, -2/+55Given the large amount of time spent sitting in front of a computer, sitting at a cell phone/blackberry texting, sitting in front of a TV, sitting inside a classroom, I'd say taking your children to ANY PLACE which promotes some level of cardio activity is a net good.
- alextryie, on 10/10/2007, -12/+1TKD is art. not a way to defense your self. It is only good to impress the nurdy chicks at your high school
- homerj1965, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1TKD is a sport not an art though there are a few schools that still teach self defense skills, discipline and focus. TKD was born from TSD, SBD, MDK as the national sport of Korea back around 1950.
- over90000, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5TDK has some good kicks, but the boxing aspect of it is VERY weak. If you want to punch, learn traditional western boxing.
- DutchGuilder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1> TDK has some good kicks
One TDK kick that should not be taught is the jumping-mule-back-kick (or whatever your particular teacher calls it). Way too many TDK students get broken jaws during sparring and tournaments because of this one kick. Broken jaws are serious ***** - your mouth is wired shut for a few months and you walk around with emergency pliers should you need to cut the wiring due to choking, coughing, etc. - JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It's sad that you got buried as what you say is true. TKD does suffer from weak punches. In competition TKD you can't punch the head, so they never really learn to punch correctly or even to defend punches correctly. Notice how low they keep their hands. In a traditional boxing/kickboxing stance, your hands are generally between your head and your opponent. At minimum they provide passive defense. Western boxing is much, much better. The only thing bad about boxing is the reliance on large gloves. Boxing defense needs to be altered slightly for self defense, and some punches will tend to break the small bones in your hand
And TKD has some good kicks. But a thai boxer will easily school them as TKD practitioners never learn how to check kicks or even deliver a proper leg kick. Again, this is due to their rules and the way they spar.- pkakira88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1if you got to a SPORTS TKD school. There are plenty TKD schools out there that are defense minded and more well rounded.
- primetime485, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5In a fight TKD is pretty ineffective. The majority of fights end up on the ground and one grabbed kick will put you there pretty quickly. I used to practice TKD and our instructor knew that it wouldn't cut it in a fight. He brought in a boxing coach from a local high school to teach us boxing techniques (proper ways to punch, bob and weave, etc) and we would learn some aspects of other martial arts from other local instructors including Jujitsu and Aikido to help us be more well rounded fighters. Arguably the best fighters in the world are the ones that are well versed in several martial arts.
- donkeySays, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I suggest Muay Thai!
- DutchGuilder, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1> TDK has some good kicks
- Phalanxe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0SPLUH!
- p0tent1al, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1fake
- satanikus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Give him the body bag!
- IpwnZnoobs, on 10/10/2007, -9/+1chuck Norris could own this guy so easy
- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Actually, Chuck Norris does (did) Tang Soo Do, which is basically the same as TKD. And he was technically never very good, he was just a good fighter.
- Asianwaste, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Chuck Norris never did Tae Kwon Do. He took as many as damn pleased.
- Quakes, on 10/10/2007, -5/+1I wish there was a country that allowed matches to the death in various martial arts.
That would make for some great entertainment.- turpenine, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3there are. It's not entertaining or funny though.
- xdoute, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1tae kwon do can't have that because you could never kill anyone with that crap. please people, study a real martial art, not the pansie stuff...
- fabiosir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You're an idiot. I wonder how many kicks to the head YOU could take without dying.
- geeshock, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Kung Fu FTW
- leefnaspleaf, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Those of you referring to those moves as though they're unique to TKD have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and you should never comment on martial arts ever again.
- lolmax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Agreed. Also, anyone in this thread thinking these punches are "weak" have clearly had zero experience with martial arts. The punches used in martial arts are about focus of energy, not about swinging your arm as hard as you can and trying to look badass. One of these basic punches done right can easily fracture your ribs
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0But the way they are practising these punches is weak in the timing and distancing sense, if not in the physical sense. If someone punched me wherever they wanted while I stood still I think it would hurt a lot. How are you going to use those punches though, in that way? You can't which is why boxing is so much better, it can be used effectively when moving, has no blocks to speak of only small parries and bobbing, has efficient ways to counter attack off of a defense, etc.
- lolmax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Agreed. Also, anyone in this thread thinking these punches are "weak" have clearly had zero experience with martial arts. The punches used in martial arts are about focus of energy, not about swinging your arm as hard as you can and trying to look badass. One of these basic punches done right can easily fracture your ribs
- tomazkovacic, on 10/10/2007, -10/+2This things fail when put to the test on the street. Looks fancy tough but this just isnt is in a street fight.
- stotty, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17I don't think you have enough understanding of what he was demonstrating to comment. Fancy kicks have no place on the street but are you trying to tell me that elbowing someone in the head, jabbing them in the throat or ramming your thumb into their eye isn't going to have a serious effect on them? Obviously he can't actually do these things to his students but the drills teach some very effective principals for a self-defence technique that may buy you enough time to escape.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5I don't know you! That's my purse!
- dharmon, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I don't know how many times I've heard about 90-year old Japanese black belts kicking the crap out of guys in their 20s attacking them.
It doesn't fail. You fail.
- stotty, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17I don't think you have enough understanding of what he was demonstrating to comment. Fancy kicks have no place on the street but are you trying to tell me that elbowing someone in the head, jabbing them in the throat or ramming your thumb into their eye isn't going to have a serious effect on them? Obviously he can't actually do these things to his students but the drills teach some very effective principals for a self-defence technique that may buy you enough time to escape.
- empT3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2There used to be a valid martial art in taekwondo, before it was formalized for sport. A lot of it can still be seen, for instance, that kind of speed in a punch can be devastating (provided you don't shatter your hand when you hit something). the problem being he wasn't following through on any of those punches (even the ones he was doing in the air). Speed is a big part of what makes total force applied to a target.
- dharmaone, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3You will destroy your elbow if you extend your punches like that. (and also stop energy to punch). But we study KF, what do we know?
- stotty, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I would think he was stopping strikes before any 'snapping' of the elbow or fully extending it. I doubt he'd be that uneducated, though it's hard to say either way under his tobok. But we study JJ, what do we know?
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0TKD mostly involve bad training methods, such as air punching. You need to hit something with resistance, like a bag, mits or another person. Then your elbows will last until you're old and grey. Even though a demonstation can be expected to be in the air, what's the bet that he actually has trained mainly in the air all his MA career.
- stotty, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2I would think he was stopping strikes before any 'snapping' of the elbow or fully extending it. I doubt he'd be that uneducated, though it's hard to say either way under his tobok. But we study JJ, what do we know?
- gooddoggytreat, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Um, isn't Tae Kwon Do the art of kicking?
- drmangrum, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5technically Tae Kwon Do translates to "hand Foot art" at least that is what my teacher told me when i took it as a child.
- jseres, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Tae Kwon Do has a very good kicking base. I did Tae Kwon Do in my early teenage years, and combining alot of the kicks I learned then with Muy Thai practices that I learned later has benefited my fighting a lot.
Also a lot of you think that this guy can't punch, but I doubt you could do better than him. He is no Quinton Jackson but he still knows what he is doing.- sintaxi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I disagree. though the guy has been commit ed to his art for a long time he has very little practical knowledge of fighting.
- flogistan, on 10/10/2007, -14/+2I grew up seeing this stuff on TV and thinking it actually would help you kick someones ass. It's retarded. All you have to do is watch the UFC. You get fighters of every stripe of marshal arts, fighting with very few rules, and they never do any of this worthless crap when they are standing up. They all take a simple boxers stance and use defensive boxing maneuvers and try to punch the ***** out of the guy with a closed fist. Hitting anyone like this would break your hand, not hurt the other guy. This stuff is simply worthless and useless. If you believe this will help you defend yourself, and you try to use it, it would only contribute to your getting beat up yourself. Also, as you see in the ufc, asian guys are mostly wieners, and get beat up really easily with a few rare exceptions.
- jheathupton, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Wow, you must have learned quite a bit from watching tv so much... could you spare some time to teach me? I don't have a lot of time to watch tv or movies but since you do I was hoping you could use your television watching skills to help me learn to fight... please?
- flogistan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1I said it's obvious from watching the ufc, whose fighters are the best in the world ass face. Also, as a tv watcher, I'll bet I could beat the ***** out of you.
- AbsurdParadox, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Threats of violence on Digg ftw!!!
- FunkyNuts, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6You two should meet at the playground after school...near the water fountain.
- flogistan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+0I will meet him there... if he's asian
- hplasm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+25c on the Internet Tough Guy!
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0All MA talk must end with an internet challenge.
- flogistan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1I said it's obvious from watching the ufc, whose fighters are the best in the world ass face. Also, as a tv watcher, I'll bet I could beat the ***** out of you.
- jheathupton, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Wow, you must have learned quite a bit from watching tv so much... could you spare some time to teach me? I don't have a lot of time to watch tv or movies but since you do I was hoping you could use your television watching skills to help me learn to fight... please?
- Paroparo, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3There are competent TKD practicioners out there, but not in this video.
Also, what's with all those kids intentionally missing the main guy? That's normal for the first few months of practicing martial arts, but every single person on the video had a black belt. - hseldon, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Seems that everyone is a black belt these days. I, too, have a black belt. I am a grand master at the art of "Nou Kwon Do". I train extensively on my sofa each day and use TiVo style weapons and various remotes. Oh, yeah, my wife gave me the third degree just last night. WaaHaa!
- BOFH2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Anyone who takes an organized martial art and only does the moves directly as taught is the one missing the point. Adapt from other styles and you will have more then if you practice one for 35 years. That is why MMA is so popular, you will notice that the champions have many styles that they have started with and then moved on.
- JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3And very little of TKD makes it into the octagon. Mostly the heel kicks. None of the punching.
- cklol, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Really, really bad form on all those people, even the sensei kept opening and closing his fists before punching, and the people doing punches were just comical.
- lkaiser3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Like many martial arts videos, the master moves at full speed and the students seem to be trying to wade through molasses. The opening of the hand before the strike, however, can be beneficial - tightening / twisting the hand just before impact can impart greater force to the blow.
- apoc06, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2and if done incorrectly can result in a broken wrist/ hand.
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Not advised, not at all.
- lkaiser3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Like many martial arts videos, the master moves at full speed and the students seem to be trying to wade through molasses. The opening of the hand before the strike, however, can be beneficial - tightening / twisting the hand just before impact can impart greater force to the blow.
- Larke2000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6hopefully he teaches defense against more than just telegraphed right punches. or i'd want my money back.
- Hoxie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I don't know, 1:23 looked pretty awesome to me.
- StudioXcel, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14Being a 2nd degree in ITF (International Taekwon-Do Federation), which is actually the original style developed by General Choi Hong Hi, as apposed to the Olympic style, I am saddened when I see something like this.
First off, gooddoggytreat, Taekwon-Do literally means the art of the hand and foot. Tae is "to jump or kick with the foot", Kwon is "to smash with the fist or hand", and Do is "the art or way, path".
Taekwon-Do is also more than most people realize, well at least how I train. I train with Master Clint Norman, who trained under General Choi (the founder), and we train mostly in creating the maximum power and speed in kicks and punches, doing a lot of bag and kicking shield training. Given Taekwon-Do is not a "street self-defense" art in formal instruction, I feel it does provide the knowledge, strength and confidence that are necessary with additional training in true self-defense.
As for the argument of which martial art is best, that is obviously up to debate. Not one is the best, so anyone that thinks otherwise has some issues. This video should not speak for Taekwon-Do is any regards.- JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3UFC 1 proved that Brazilian Jujitsu is the best... or was, before every started cross training.
- adacas, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Brazilian was never the best. they just happened to go up against some people who never grappled in their lives. that is all. now wrestlers are kicking ass. check out couture and hughes
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm pretty sure they train extensively in BJJ or other submission. Hughes got armbarred early in his career, when he was only relying on wrestling.
- platipuz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1you cant just say that one martial art is better than another because someone won a competition with it. some people are naturally better fighters than others. if they happened to decide to train in ninjitsu they could have won the competition as well. it is not possible to compare martial arts ... you can only compare fighters.
- mikehosek, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Ninjitsu is not a good example, although I do get your point.
- Scytale, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2When grapplers consistently took down the stand-up styles for so long, that kind of made the point. Also you can compare styles if you go do them. I started out in TKD and moved on to Muay Thai and Jui-Jutsu. I can tell you from personal experience that TKD did not prepare me for a real fight.
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0That's why you have many many fights with an assortment of fighters from different arts. Then you find which one won the most.
- najdorf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The strongest martial art is the Kina Mutai, the art of groin biting and eye gouging, but it's not very telegenic.
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Well, not after the first strike.
- adacas, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Brazilian was never the best. they just happened to go up against some people who never grappled in their lives. that is all. now wrestlers are kicking ass. check out couture and hughes
- JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3UFC 1 proved that Brazilian Jujitsu is the best... or was, before every started cross training.
- Humptydank, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2 Tae Kwon Do Master demonstrates punch routines...
...for Digg nerds to try alone in their room like Napoleon Dynamite.- barktwiggs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yes, but where do we learn nun-chuk skills?
- kenposan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1nice video. nice demonstration of traditional technique. now let's them used in more realistic scenarios
- Lapper, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Anyone with basic training in taekwondo would know those are the most basic hand movements; they are often practiced in rapid repitition and are usually not considered lethal. If they were, you'd have no time to get your tornado kicks in. :P
- vladimus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3My Tae Kwon Do instructor was taught by Ernie Reyes (father of Ernie Reyes, Jr., one of the actors in the live action TMNT movies), and for actual self-defense, he taught something similar to akido, not Tae Kwon Do. Tae Kwon Do hurts when it connects, but it's movements are practically telegraphed in advance and it's too restrictive in it's form to make it a good practical fighting style.
Case in point: http://youtube.com/watch?v=e2_bKP2GMTU&mode=related&search=- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2TKD is not very good at all in practical street fighting. It is an interesting art to learn, but don't learn it for self-defense. If you want to learn a karate style that's good at self defense, learn Enshin Karate. Or even learn some jiu jutsu. Hell, learn some judo. You'll still be better off in a street fight than learning TKD.
- JigoroKano, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3On concrete, judo is lethal.
- lianos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3There are two sides to every coin:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fL9ZXos8LfQ
- Neiby, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2TKD is not very good at all in practical street fighting. It is an interesting art to learn, but don't learn it for self-defense. If you want to learn a karate style that's good at self defense, learn Enshin Karate. Or even learn some jiu jutsu. Hell, learn some judo. You'll still be better off in a street fight than learning TKD.
- napierj, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0So Tae Kwon Do is poking people in the eyes and grabbing their family jewls? If we ever go to war with North Korea, make sure our soldiers are wearing goggles and cups; they won't stand a chance!
- mikehosek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0No poking eyes and grabbing balls is Krav-Maga
- dildoolielly, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3TKD is a dramatic stage art, nothing more.
- Mth3ory, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Everything's easier on god mode.
- applebyte, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9I'm Rex, founder of the Rex Kwan Do self-defense system. After one week with me in my dojo, you'll be prepared to defend yourself with the strength of a grizzly, the reflexes of a puma, and the wisdom of a man.
- ThecNiqueMan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hahahahaha, ahahaha, aaah....
Yep. Pathetic. - Mizuno, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm in!
- hseldon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Do you have a training tape that I could buy for $19.95?
- ThecNiqueMan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hahahahaha, ahahaha, aaah....
- diggdowner, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Who the hell telegraphs their attacks like that??
- italianchia, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Street Fighter characters.
- cwiz7, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3As a martial artist, I'd like to point out that those are all white belt moves just to get people used to martial arts. Tae Kwan Do really isn't effective in real life, only tournament fighting.
- Hiki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1actually, it's more like the opposite. only an idiot would think that those basic defense moves are all that's to it. like any martial art, tkd is about preparing yourself for an attack. in an actual fight those basic defense moves are meant to be improvised according to the situation.
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Uh, improvised? How about just putting on some gloves and practising them with timing, distance and resistance. Then no need to 'improvise'.
- Hiki, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1actually, it's more like the opposite. only an idiot would think that those basic defense moves are all that's to it. like any martial art, tkd is about preparing yourself for an attack. in an actual fight those basic defense moves are meant to be improvised according to the situation.
- adacas, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I love how traditional martial arts step back after knocking someone down with one punch. Forget if the guy gets back up and pulls out that knife you didn't know he had a second ago.
- Infantrydude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1pretty good----but he is no Chuck Norris
- Rp707, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2READY? FIGHT!
- smartass007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1what is considered the most lethal martial art?
- over90000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There is no such thing. Every style has its strong points and weaknesses. A good fighter will combine the strong aspects of each style depending on what situation he is in. For the stand up game, judging by the K1 fighter, Muay Thai is the choice for a base. Some use Karate. The boxing aspect of traditional muay thai isn't very strong either so they implement western boxing.
In MMA, 90% of fights will end up in the ground and will finish in either a submission or a total pounding of the fighter on the ground. For this you want Gerco Roman wrestling for the clinches, judo and jujitsu for takedowns and takedown defences. In the ground it's vital to dominate the opponent and manuvear to a position that is advantageous to you, for this you want brazilian jujitsu since it's main focus is in this area.
Muay Thai + Boxing + BJJ is a good combination.- mikehosek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Agreed, but I would also incorporate Judo throws
- phauna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Maybe wrestling is a little better for that, but judo is serviceable. Greco will allow clinch and some takedowns. Freestyle also good. Mud not so much.
- mikehosek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Agreed, but I would also incorporate Judo throws
- Armitage2k, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Smith & Wesson
- over90000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There is no such thing. Every style has its strong points and weaknesses. A good fighter will combine the strong aspects of each style depending on what situation he is in. For the stand up game, judging by the K1 fighter, Muay Thai is the choice for a base. Some use Karate. The boxing aspect of traditional muay thai isn't very strong either so they implement western boxing.
- kamikaze87, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Byyawahhhhhh!!
- R75700, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I wish he was actually hitting all those kids that hard
That would freaking change my life - R75700, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1I wish he was actually hitting those kids that hard.
That would freaking change my life - curiousgrge, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3If that's what he's teaching without actual combat, this is what would happen to him in a match.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I- Mizuno, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0It was hilarious when he was doing those windmill like motions with his hands and one of his students was flying around like there was some force, or very strong wind blasting him around
- Mizuno, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2he demonstrate those punches on a punchbag, then we could get a more accurate demonstration on how powerful (or not) his strikes are
- Mizuno, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0he SHOULD demonstrate
- pstadler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2This is completely typical. Why is this news?
- TrvthJvstice, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I know TKD, Akido, Jujitsu and several other dangerous words.
- Braaad, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I think i saw a "Monkey Steals the Peach" ....lethal
- pkakira88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Very little wisdom and too much BS in this thread.
I'm willing to bet that the majority of the people who've posted comments like "TKD is only a sport" or "That wouldn't work on the street" has either never been in martial arts or just likes talking out of their ass.
ANY TECHNIQUE CAN BE LETHAL, provided that they're used correctly and at the right time. A flying dragon kick can be just as effective as a hard leg check. Like anything in life there are goods and bads and there's never a concrete answer for everything.
Almost the same goes for the "_____ is better for REAL self defense." Can you really think of one good reason why blank is so much better? Boxers have almost no defense when it comes to their lower body. Grappler's in general can only defend against one opponent at a time, if they're attacked by even a small group then they're screwed. Both of them are also generally weak against foes with weapons, hence why so many Boxer are killed out side of the ring in confrontations where the opponent pulls out a knife. And there are just as many MacDojo's as there are Sports TKD schools that either do just as little or even less.
PS. The "Most fights end up on the ground" quote is full of it too. This mostly takes into account fights where the opponents are unexperienced and end up being wrestled to the ground accidentally, what if an experienced fighter were able to take out his opponent before have to go to the ground. I personally go to a non sports TKD/Hapkido school where the focus is defense and we're taught to be rounded out to fight on the standing and on the ground, I know I'm not a very good grappler. I can know the basics of ground defense and can pull off a few arm bars and chokes through pure strength but anyone with a deeper understanding grappling can easily out me in a pure straightforward ground fight. On the other hand in instances where it's a mixed setting instead of focusing on beating someone at something I'm not good at I find a way to get back on my feet. And once you're on your feet when your opponent is still on the ground its far easier to cause damage to them then for them to get you back down. -
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