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- sheeplescareme, on 06/02/2009, -3/+21gee, ya think?
television rots the brain - kill your tv and read a book - you'll thank me later. - Lucas123, on 06/02/2009, -0/+10duz knot
- preppypoof, on 06/02/2009, -1/+10i'd like to see if this includes educational shows like sesame street, etc. i remember watching those shows a lot and learning from them...though i probably learned more from interacting with actual people.
- NathanCH, on 06/02/2009, -2/+9Don't blame TV, blame the parents.
- Brododium, on 06/02/2009, -2/+8What do you get from a glut of TV?
A pain in the neck and an IQ of three
Why don't you try simply reading a book?
Or can you just not bear to look?
You'll get no...you'll get no...you'll get no commercials! - kalvinb, on 06/02/2009, -0/+6http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/03/02/eveningn ...
A new study from Children's Hospital of Boston, published in the journal "Pediatrics," found T.V. viewing "does not seem to be associated with (the development of) language or visual motor skills...."
"Television had no independent effect on their brain development," says the hospital's Dr. Michael Rich. "So it did not help them, but it also did not seem to hurt them, either."
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As long as your kid is spending plenty of time interacting with you, a little TV to give you a break is not a problem. Obviously expecting the TV to babysit your kid 8 hours a day is going to result in a lack of development. Not from too much TV, but from too little interaction with people. - Lionhart, on 06/02/2009, -0/+5Except that IQ is an average of the populations intelligence with 100 being the mean. If everyone got dumber except you your IQ would increase. Plus not very many people actually take IQ tests.
- dylio, on 06/02/2009, -1/+5Television Rules the Nation
- nigelmansell, on 06/02/2009, -1/+5or go online posting commentz on digg
- inactive, on 06/02/2009, -1/+5Well, then you'd see an IQ drop in every generation since the 1950s or so, wouldn't you?
- Lionhart, on 06/02/2009, -0/+3It's called speedstick! It's not expensive!
- Shiftgood, on 06/02/2009, -2/+5They have vintage Sesame Street clips on hulu. I dare you to go watch them.. they're pure genius.
- ccalabro, on 06/02/2009, -1/+4eh, my torrents dont have commercials? what are these commercials you speak of?
- zhaojon, on 06/02/2009, -0/+2I watched a TV lot as baby and fine language skills my are.
- monkeyhoward, on 06/02/2009, -1/+3TV causes learning lag in adults.
- Lagstorm, on 06/02/2009, -1/+3Go away! BAITIN!
- Hillsfar, on 06/02/2009, -0/+2Obviously a lot of Star Wars. Especially Return of the Jedi.
- bman1984, on 06/03/2009, -0/+2Ow! My Balls!
- shodanx, on 06/02/2009, -1/+3yes, if IQ was something else
- CoryTrevor, on 06/02/2009, -1/+3ha. I started humming the Reading Rainbow theme as I read that.
- inactive, on 06/02/2009, -1/+3It could be that people with lower IQ's or vocabulary are more likely to set their kids in front of the tv for longer periods of time. I've heard people with lower intelligence tend to have more children than people with higher intelligence, so they may be more busy overall and so each kid has less interaction time.
It's also possible that parenting styles differ greatly among people with strong communication skills (prefer to interact with kids) and people with weak communication skills. So, whether or not the kids are watching tv, they may have developed at that same rate due to genetics. There's no causality proven.
I completely agree with harmonixmedia, there's a lot of possible confounding variables. - somnus, on 06/02/2009, -0/+2Apparently the Sesame Street DVDs are rated "not for children" or something along those lines. Seems like the stuff we grew up with ain't good enough for the younguns these days!
I remember having to *walk* to school! In the rain! Ten minutes! (The hypothetical future grandchildren scream in horror.) - harmonixmedia, on 06/02/2009, -1/+3Studies like this are always leaving out a massive number of controls.
The issue has more do to with a lack of interaction with parents, not with actual time in front of the TV. My oldest son watches a ton of TV with me. The kid is 5 and his favorite show is Mythbusters. When we told him that we were going to California for a vacation he wanted to go to M5 instead of Disneyland. He tests off the charts in this vocabulary, but that is because as parents we use TV to show him things and challenge him in a way we couldn't left to my own devices. - kalvinb, on 06/02/2009, -2/+3read a book, read a book, read a mother-f-ing book!
- MrFisty, on 06/02/2009, -1/+2"Sshhh. TV."
"Man fall down."
"Fun-ny." - Gloogle, on 06/02/2009, -0/+1that explains a lot.
- GalacticRerun, on 06/02/2009, -0/+1My kid knows six or seven words in sign language that he learned from TV. He watches plenty of it and can even spell plenty of words and his own name, recite his address and he's still two and a half. I hardly watched TV as a kid and I remember being in school and all my class copying our names out from a small board whenever we had to write them.
- celotil, on 06/02/2009, -0/+1Lots of foreign films, with subtitles, and read to the kid in bed, pointing out each word as you read.
That will associate english words they've heard with the written english text, then enable them to read the english subtitles and learn how to swear in fifty-plus languages. :) - smoothmann, on 06/02/2009, -0/+1babby watch teebee i bad?
babby think not - johnomaz, on 06/02/2009, -0/+1Same with my daughter. Shes 3 now, but at 6 months to 2 years, she used baby sign language. We taught her about a dozen signs to help her convey to us what she needed/wanted. We let her watch Baby Einstein DVDs only and she could sign small sentences by age 2. It was amazing. Now, she watches Little Einsteins and Handy Manny, as well as the old Disney movies. TV isn't the bad thing, its the programming and the fact that most kids don't do anything else other than watch TV. DOWN WITH SPONGE BOB!!!
- JFitzpatrick, on 06/02/2009, -0/+1I used to be absolutely against television exposure for kids, under the same premise that it made them dumb asses. Then I realized that it isn't TV that does -anything-. Some people are just dumb asses. I came to this realization observing my daughter--who if I do say so myself is exceptionally bright--watching a show on PBS with some other kids her age. The dumb asses in the group were like "heh heh... funny!" and the smart kids, including my daughter, were like "oh wow! look! you can use anything as a measuring tool!" (the episode was about standardized and relative measurement)
Smart kids can learn from anything and dumb kids... well somebody has to keep the bottom of the bell curve warm. - finkist, on 06/03/2009, -0/+1I'm not quite sure what exactly you are asking, so I may be misinterpreting your question, but as of yet, researchers are still unsure of what causes autism in any individual, so I don't know that just watching puppets would "trigger" autism. However, what you said about emotions is correct--autistic children may lack some skills such as joint-attention, recognizing/prescribing any meaning to different facial expressions. In many cases, autistic children do not interact with other people very well because they did not develop an interest in their caregiver's face as an infant, and instead will show non-normal interest in objects. The scholarly journal entitled "Autism" is a great place to look for more information on the subject.
- Lewie, on 06/02/2009, -1/+2I grew up watching PBS. I didn't turn out too bad. Of course, PBS also led me to books (thanks Geordi LaForge/LeVar Burton).
- zip000, on 06/02/2009, -0/+1That's how I feel about it.
My son is a year and a half; for a long time we resisted watching TV because of the advisement to not do so, but eventually we caved and let him. But we pretty much only watch tv when he is sick or unhappy about teething or things of that sort. In other words, only in times when you can't interact with him anyway because he is crying or too upset. So we sit and watch Sesame Street or Baby Einstein together.
As a side note, those Baby Einstein videos are, as far as I'm concerned, completely un-educational, but he sure likes them. - finkist, on 06/03/2009, -0/+1So many of you seem to be missing the point of the study conducted. Let's just forget about what the article says for just a minute because it is ill-worded at times and seems to be leading some of you to incorrect conclusions.
First, the study is not saying "TV should be avoided regardless of age". The study is suggesting that parents avoid exposing their children to large amounts of TV during the first 2 years because during these years children learn skills that are necessary to develop language. From their caretakers, infants learn how to use gaze and turn-taking. Children who do not master these cannot begin to vocalize/babble and thus will not have normally developing language. They will be unable to do these because they will have little motivation to interact with those around them. Sitting in front of the television limits this direct caretaker-infant interaction. TV also does not foster a child's attention.
Second, the study does not say that elementary school and pre-K children cannot learn anything valuable from educational television programs. The study focuses only on infants. However, it is important to note that replacing a large part of human interaction with television can be detrimental to younger children for the some of the same reasons it is harmful to infants. Again, there is the lack of interaction where children learn narrative elements that improve their language development and literacy. It is more beneficial to read a book with your child or simply converse with him than it is setting him in front of the TV to watch hours of Dora or SpongeBob. - kalvinb, on 06/02/2009, -4/+4You're watching the wrong shows. There are plenty of educational shows on TV for kids and adults. Unfortunately it typically costs money to get those channels. Not everyone can afford cable or wants to pay for the junk that comes with it.
If you want to learn the science behind cooking, Good Eats on the Food Network is excellent. - atulchd, on 06/02/2009, -0/+0TV or Parents are to be blamed?
- 13373h4X0r, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1How is babby learned
- somnus, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1Well *if* there's anything to it, it would be more like watching emotions play out on the faces of real people acts as the trigger for emotional development and spending more time watching static faces causes these permanent developments to go off in the wrong direction (like growing a watermelon in a plexiglass cube).
I don't want to spread FUD here though, I just wanted to know if anyone knew if there was anything to this or wanted to do some digging for studies. We're no better than McCarthy if anyone takes speculation away as scientific support for the topic. - CoryTrevor, on 06/02/2009, -2/+2I think it has dropped. Would your grandparents sit through a reality tv show or tweet about taking a *****? That should explain it all to you.
- littlefirey1, on 06/04/2009, -0/+0I call the TV "the electronic income reducer", but is it really any surprise it would also be "the electronic IQ reducer?"
- arcticwookie, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do! - nigelmansell, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1if
muppet = related to autism,
then
jim henson = father of autism?
conclusion: screw you Jenny McCarthy - jtcoons, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1That sounds diabolical.
- cowfish234, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1i thought it would depend on what you're watching. what about something like sesame street vs any random show on MTV?
- Malik05, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1old news...
- johnomaz, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1Ok, my daughter watched the Baby Einstein DVDs when she was an infant and not only taught herself a ton of baby sign language gestures from the DVDs, but has helped her with basic adding and subtracting skills. I have yet to see another 3 year old be able to add or subtract. She is also quite musical.
Oh, and she used baby signs from 6 months to 2 years of age. After 2 years old, she decided she was done with it and only wanted to talk. My wife and I know several other couples that have kids in her age range and she by far has the best verbal skills.
Perhaps this study should look at what kind of shows produce this 'vegetative' state. I have a feeling shows like Sponge Bob and the like of it are at the top of the list. And no, my daughter will never watch those kinds of shows. - somnus, on 06/02/2009, -1/+1Does anyone remember hearing about a possible link between young children watching puppet-type shows (Barney, Tele-tubbies, etc) that can't show emotion on their faces (Sesame Street had human characters, so it's out) and autism? Something about how they associate a blank face with all ranges of emotions and so there is a spectrum of under-development in emotional recognition and expression depending on how much time was spent in front of the these shows and with their parents.
Could be completely false, just a forming hypothesis, or a study underway - I just remember hearing about it from somewhere (probably Digg). - ruiner32, on 06/02/2009, -1/+0yeah, my wife and I have our first kid, 5 months old, and interaction is the least of our worries. even with the 48" flat screen.
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