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worldnetdaily.com — 6th grade students attending Chastain Middle School in Jackson, MS were given a survey in a science class asking which of their classmates were most likely to get pregnant, die or get AIDs before graduating from high school. One parent who's daughter, an honor student, who made the list, demands that the teacher be fired.
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- bettycat, on 05/13/2008, -3/+23This is scary. What's up with teachers? Where was the administration?
- DOGODSWILL, on 05/14/2008, -4/+15They were out politicing to elect some more liberal judges that will condone such.
- lajaw, on 05/14/2008, -3/+10Seems the teachers these days are more interested in physically teaching your children about sex. The perverseness that controls young adults now is one reason that we as a country are unable to function properly. Just look not only at the public schools, but also the federal government. Who would have thought 3 years ago we would have had a president having sex in the oval office with an intern? The society as a whole is floating in sex. We are a sick people.
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -6/+3Perversion, AKA having a sex drive, has always "controlled" young adults. They eventually reproduce and so goes life.
- Sandy1000, on 05/14/2008, -5/+6Typical liberal response - trying to normalize perversion. (Interesting how you define perversion as merely having a sex drive.) Young adults, like everyone else, have free will and the ability to choose what they think, do and say. Generalizing that all young adults are somehow "compelled" or "controlled" by their sex drive is not only ridiculous but ignores an increase in perversion insidiously forced upon them by adults in positions of power over the past 30 years, statistics clearly bear that out. Also the majority of teenage girls DO NOT become pregnant and have exercised discipline, self control and will power in spite of such cultural pressure demonstrating that free will trumps sex drive any day of the week for those willing to exercise it.
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -6/+3Perversion, AKA having a sex drive, has always "controlled" young adults. They eventually reproduce and so goes life.
- nadom, on 05/14/2008, -3/+19Teachers are to be teaching the 3 r's and not social subjects. Social subject are to be taught by parents and not the government.
Of course we know some parents cant but they can find someone who can.- jp111, on 05/14/2008, -7/+3Where on Earth have you been for the last 35 years?
- kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -5/+19I was stunned at the audacity of that teacher when I read the article. I agree absolutely with that father. The cretin should not be teaching children, I don't think he should be teaching anyone. This was set up to cause humiliation. What was supposed to be taught by the subject matter of the lesson? There are certainly better was to teach statistics. My husband insists that our children attend public school. He says nothing has happened to our children to warrant pulling them out. I wish he could understand that we need to pull them out before the worst happens.
- postingbh, on 05/14/2008, -2/+7"This was set up to cause humiliation."
- I doubt it. I suspect the teacher was just trying to shock/scare kids into abstinence. Of course, this was probably not the right approach or even an appropriate issue for her to address.- kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4If the teacher didn't realize how this would hurt the children the teacher is a complete moronic idiot whose probably to stupid to dress properly without help.
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2too*
- kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4If the teacher didn't realize how this would hurt the children the teacher is a complete moronic idiot whose probably to stupid to dress properly without help.
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2Yes, you should homeschool your kids so you can be like this parent:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rXQ8GH1xwxg - Sandy1000, on 05/14/2008, -2/+2Yes of course. Find the most outlandish, far-fetched, irrelevant, extreme example to use as your measuring stick by which all homeschooled parents are judged.
- postingbh, on 05/14/2008, -2/+7"This was set up to cause humiliation."
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -7/+17For some reason, WND decided to omit the second to last paragraph of the article, which I found at other sites (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/education/16255976 ... , http://www.kctv5.com/education/16255976/detail.htm ... , http://www.my58.com/news/16255976/detail.html , and others ):
"Jackson Public Schools expects all teachers to extend the basic courtesy of appropriate decorum to all students and to use good professional judgment in the selection of instructional activities," said Lucy Hansford, JPS communication specialist. "We are presently investigating the matter at Chastain. However, we are not able to release details in this matter so as to not violate the rights of confidentiality of personnel and students."
Why is it that WND left out the school's response, generic though it might be (not that the generic nature of the statement is unreasonable at this point given that the incident happened just yesterday)? What's the purpose in leaving it out? Doesn't journalistic integrity demand that both sides of an issue be given an opportunity to make a response? Even if that's all the school was willing to say at this time, it's not as if WND was short on space and couldn't afford to print it. Especially given how short this article is, why deny readers the opportunity to judge whether the school's statement is of any value?- proveritas, on 05/14/2008, -7/+3I read your links and I agree with your statement. Many articles WND publishes are more for the purpose of "shock and awe." They should have printed the article in its entirety and should always be forthcoming when publishing any article. Judging by the comments so far, the article generates anger, disbelief, astonishment, and discord, and rightly so. Yet, with the added paragraph, it does add fuel to the fire when the spokeswoman for the school states "we are not able to release details...etc." I think the details and confidentiality have already been violated. What is missing is the names of the students who felt compelled to label four classmates in the survey. And, did the four girls also participate in the survey and thought in their hearts others could have fit the bill? All in all, this was woefully unacceptable for a teacher to ask students to participate in a survey that serves no purpose to be discussed in class.
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7"I think the details and confidentiality have already been violated. What is missing is the names of the students who felt compelled to label four classmates in the survey."
My sarcasm detector is on the fritz right now . . . you're not really saying that you want other sixth graders to be victimized by having their names released as having participated in an activity assigned by their teacher, right? Only the name of the father who reported the incident has been revealed so far. That essentially gives away his daughter's identity, but it was his own doing, not the school's.- proveritas, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3The confidentiality will never be revealed unless students brag about it. It will remain CONFIDENTIAL to the media. They won't be stigmatized yet will the four girls ever know who voted for them? If you were in their shoes, would you want to know? Do the four girls deserve an apology? And like I said, did they freely participate as well?
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6I'm not even sure what you're saying. You said two comments ago that "what is missing is the names of the students who felt compelled to label four classmates in the survey," and you said it in the context of talking about whether details should be released to the media. Are you saying now that it's not that you want the media to know, but you think the four girls should have those names? If so, couldn't they then reveal them to the media?
Besides, why should they know? This survey was a terrible idea, and the mistake shouldn't be compounded by setting classmate against classmate. Nor should any of these sixth graders be condemned for participating in an activity assigned by their teacher. The girls who were named (and any other people named for other risks in the survey) do deserve an apology, but it should come from the teacher. Their classmates don't owe them an apology. They were just doing what they were told to do at an age where teachers are strong authority figures, and whether they picked those four girls or another four, the result would have been the same. School counselors should talk to the students who were stigmatized by the survey and to the class as a whole about why the survey was wrong and why they're not going to reveal who voted for whom. The damage has been done, so instead of doing more, let's turn it into a lesson on the dangers of preconceived notions, the problems with retribution, forgiveness, etc. Remember, we're talking about kids who are about 11-12 years old.
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6I'm not even sure what you're saying. You said two comments ago that "what is missing is the names of the students who felt compelled to label four classmates in the survey," and you said it in the context of talking about whether details should be released to the media. Are you saying now that it's not that you want the media to know, but you think the four girls should have those names? If so, couldn't they then reveal them to the media?
- proveritas, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3The confidentiality will never be revealed unless students brag about it. It will remain CONFIDENTIAL to the media. They won't be stigmatized yet will the four girls ever know who voted for them? If you were in their shoes, would you want to know? Do the four girls deserve an apology? And like I said, did they freely participate as well?
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7"I think the details and confidentiality have already been violated. What is missing is the names of the students who felt compelled to label four classmates in the survey."
- proveritas, on 05/14/2008, -3/+1All I am saying is the school will investigate the matter. The names will probably never be revealed - they shouldn't be. But those who suffered the humiliation - will they or their parents want to see the answers to the surveys? They probably would but, I believe the school will keep the entire matter confidential so as to not cause humiliation for the entire class. And, again, we may NEVER know, who the four girls voted for. All I was trying to do was to point out how far the situation can escalate if the matter does not remain confidential.
- kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -3/+16Thank you for the additional information. It doesn't change my opinion, the cretin should be fired and banned from teaching. It does make me question why WND would withhold that piece of information showing that the school isn't ignoring the problem. Clearly, WND has some unfortunate integrity issues.
- ThoughtfulWi, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Oh Yeah! They do.
- Lutrasimilis, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1WhatwhatWHAT? You mean WND selectively prunes the information feed, ignoring some points and exaggerating others...like some kind of tabloid? Just because half the site's content is get-rich-quick schemes, miracle cures, and advertisements for books written by WND affiliates...heyyy...wait a minute.
- lajaw, on 05/14/2008, -2/+5"School officials said they are investigating the matter."
That says what your "original" paragraph says doesn't it? - CC777, on 05/14/2008, -1/+9That's not a response...that is damage control.
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2What did you expect in only 24 hours? The survey happened on Monday, and the article was written on Tuesday. I know many WND readers like to call for people's heads right away, but let's be reasonable and give them time to follow their procedures. Because I've said that, I know that there will be many people who think I'm on the teacher's side. I'm not. I'm just not calling for an immediate firing without due process. Besides,such a firing may not hold up in court.
- postingbh, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6There's a new European startup that's trying to address news credibility problems like this. Right now, their app is in private alpha; but I'm looking forward to the public release.
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- proveritas, on 05/14/2008, -7/+3I read your links and I agree with your statement. Many articles WND publishes are more for the purpose of "shock and awe." They should have printed the article in its entirety and should always be forthcoming when publishing any article. Judging by the comments so far, the article generates anger, disbelief, astonishment, and discord, and rightly so. Yet, with the added paragraph, it does add fuel to the fire when the spokeswoman for the school states "we are not able to release details...etc." I think the details and confidentiality have already been violated. What is missing is the names of the students who felt compelled to label four classmates in the survey. And, did the four girls also participate in the survey and thought in their hearts others could have fit the bill? All in all, this was woefully unacceptable for a teacher to ask students to participate in a survey that serves no purpose to be discussed in class.
- gshufy, on 05/14/2008, -4/+11The behavior of this teacher? is absolutely shocking. It makes me wonder about what else he/she has been dishing out and what other shenanigans that may have gone unnoticed. I would demand a firing without question and an investigation as to what other inappropriate ideas, suggestions or behaviors may have taken place. He/she should also be made to give a formal apology in front of all the students and tell them he used very very very poor judgment. This school should under no circumstances allow this person to "teach" young people ever again.
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -2/+12"I would demand a firing without question"
I would demand an investigation to confirm the allegation followed by a firing if it turns out to be true, subject to whatever rules have been laid out in the teacher's contract regarding the process. I'd be surprised if there's anything the teacher could say that would make this incident seem less inappropriate, but I don't think she should be denied due process (as defined by her contract) just because we're shocked. A firing may also not hold up in court if the school doesn't follow established procedures.- keltin, on 05/14/2008, -10/+5fire the little slut.
- kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -0/+10A firing without question is always a very very very bad idea. I agree that the teacher should be fired after due process.
- mrpetey, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4Screw that - most school have a "zero tolerance" policy for students (no due process for minor infractions that are barely infractions) - lets make one (policy) for the teachers also and give them a taste of their own making. And no union appeals either!!!!
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2Teachers don't craft policies as much as the administration (district, principal, etc.) do.
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Many schools do have a zero tolerance policy for students, but have you actually seen a school that didn't have a procedure for handling infractions? The principal's word is typically not final. There are procedures in place in many school systems to appeal decisions, especially when it comes to things like suspensions and expulsions (which were not up to the principal in any school system I've seen, and instead required various hearings).
- mrpetey, on 05/14/2008, -4/+4Screw that - most school have a "zero tolerance" policy for students (no due process for minor infractions that are barely infractions) - lets make one (policy) for the teachers also and give them a taste of their own making. And no union appeals either!!!!
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -2/+12"I would demand a firing without question"
- radicalmiddle, on 05/14/2008, -3/+15Here's a survey:
What middle school teacher is most likely to be fired by the end of the week, contract unemployment, and endure the consequences of a failed resume?
Unbelievable!~ Such mean-spirited audacity. - jb1965, on 05/14/2008, -7/+10Make the administration fire the teacher! Sue the teacher into the ground! Sue anyone in the administration who gets in the way of her termination! Put the teacher on the public sex offenders list to keep her away from our children!!!
- jp111, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3Be real! This stuff fades away and the only memory is held by the family. What should happen, never happens any longer.
- kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -1/+12Public sex offenders list? The teacher made a grave error and should be fired and lose her teaching license, but hasn't been shown to have sexually assaulted anyone. Sue, Sue, Sue. We live in a sue happy society. How about discipline the teacher under the law and let it go at that.
- DOGODSWILL, on 05/14/2008, -7/+17This is an example of what has happened to our school system since the LIBERAL judges took PRAYER out of our schools. Just the other day some woman commented on DIGG that she was a liberal christian.I would like for her to explain to me what she thinks a liberal is and what a christian is. I don't see how you can be both at the same time.
- keltin, on 05/14/2008, -4/+9Do I hear a vote for, "Lynch the judges!" starting up?
- DOGODSWILL, on 05/14/2008, -11/+14 This is an example of what we get for appointing LIBERAL judges that voted PRAYER out of our school system.
- jp111, on 05/14/2008, -4/+7It is liberals that are elected in this country that hire, appoint and back the people they want in control. If reasonable people were elected to office they would not appoint or hire these types of people. We get the government we deserve. This is the result.
If you remember Jesus did not teach them to grow and make bread, He simply fed them. He did not teach them to grow and make wine, he had a never ending barrel full for them. He did not teach them to fish, he fed them. God fed them for 40 years in the desert. That's mercy.
But He also noted he who does not work should not eat.
We are told we should educate our children. It does not occur today very much. - anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -3/+8"Liberal judges" have absolutely zero to do with this. Your paranoia is astounding at times. By the way, what are your thoughts on Antonin Scalia?
- karishore, on 05/14/2008, -6/+4EVERYTHING LIBERAL ... JUDGES... TEACHERS UNIONS... POLICE UNIONS... HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4TEACHERS UNIONS? GOD FORBID TEACHERS WANT A FAIR WAGE FOR THEMSELVES. BECAUSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, MOST TEACHERS MAKE SIX FIGURES.
(are we still shouting?) - lydecker, on 05/14/2008, -4/+3Now that you said it that way...
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -1/+4TEACHERS UNIONS? GOD FORBID TEACHERS WANT A FAIR WAGE FOR THEMSELVES. BECAUSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, MOST TEACHERS MAKE SIX FIGURES.
- Sandy1000, on 05/14/2008, -3/+3A Fair wage? Nationally, the average middle school teacher earns $48, 460. The low end of the paying scale is $32, 060 while the high end is over $70K. In Mississippi, the average middle school teacher's pay is $42,500. I don't believe anybody's gonna be standing in the soup lines in Mississippi if they are earning a living of $>42K a year for only 9 months of work.
- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -2/+2They're not starving, but many of them are also working far more than 40 hours per week. If we want the best teachers we can get, we should pay accordingly. I've known people who were considering teaching, but who were concerned that the pay would make it difficult to buy a home, achieve financial security, pay off student loans, etc. Make the pay more competitive with what the best and brightest could get elsewhere, and we'll see more people interested in making the sacrifices that we ask of teachers.
- karishore, on 05/14/2008, -6/+4EVERYTHING LIBERAL ... JUDGES... TEACHERS UNIONS... POLICE UNIONS... HAVE EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
- jp111, on 05/14/2008, -4/+7It is liberals that are elected in this country that hire, appoint and back the people they want in control. If reasonable people were elected to office they would not appoint or hire these types of people. We get the government we deserve. This is the result.
- jp111, on 05/14/2008, -10/+5I would love to see that parent walk up to the teacher after school one day and hand her a piece of paper that said "Which one of us do you think will leave this parking lot alive today?" while pointing a gun into her face. Then tell her check off the box YOU or ME.
Oh, the privacy issue did not appear too concerning to the teacher when she put everyone's name on the paper, not did it!- kirralin23, on 05/14/2008, -1/+9I'm sure this young girl would be much better off with her father in jail. Face reality.
- seala, on 05/14/2008, -1/+6So violence solves everything does it? Lets just shoot everyone who makes us angry. With all those guns available there will be a huge death toll and you will make those who think the world population needs to reduce hugely to save the planet be really happy.
- 177674, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3jp111 right on!!! I agree with what you said. Most of the people here never shot a bbgun!!!
- Argentian, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Force doesn't solve everything, but in this case it comes dam neer.
- obliviousfool, on 05/14/2008, -16/+3Sounds like somebody's snowflake got a wake up call. Guess what? This is statistics. Someone in that class will get AIDS. Someone will get pregnant. Someone will die in a car accident. Etc. Etc. This is a great exercise. Have the kids put names to the numbers to make them real, and maybe (just maybe) the numbers will be ***** lower.
- isparadiselost, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3You truly are an oblivious fool. It's obvious that you aren't a parent and it's obvious that you should never become one.
- Christianptriot, on 05/14/2008, -2/+1But the classmates will not decide those things...
- keltin, on 05/14/2008, -2/+13Fool, you're oblivious to reality, it seems. It's too far a step to bridge between general statistics, and what the teacher did. This is reprehensible what the teacher did to use as examples for statistics. It doesn't make the subject matter acceptable.
Kick 'er out! - alanhlake, on 05/14/2008, -3/+13And there are still people out there who think that there is a legitimate place in society for government schools. I think that having kids in a government school is evidence of child abuse.
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -2/+4This is not commonplace in public schools, I hope you realize. That's why it's so stunning.
- MarilynBr, on 05/14/2008, -1/+18Experiences like these are life-altering. Although I am 59, I still carry pain from an educational(?) exercise in health class when I was 15. Our teacher said it was good for us to know how other people saw us. She had every student staple four pages of paper together and write their name on the top of the first sheet. Then all of the sheets were passed around the room for each person to write whatever they wanted to say about each classmate. I don't know what this teacher was thinking. I suppose she is dead now. But if she were not and I could track her down, I would still take her to task for putting us through this. I was a very shy child at that age, and I still carry scars from the hurtful things that most of my classmates wrote about me. I never felt accepted for the rest of my years in high school. One of the girls in our class was so devastated by what was written by her that she left the school and attended a private Christian school for the rest of her high school years. No teacher should be allowed to do these kinds of things. As far as I am concerned it is abuse and I say this after being a school teacher myself for 22 years.
- seala, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6 These teachers actions were and are abusive. I am sure neither meant to be, but both were totally misguided and I am presuming badly trained if they can qualify as a teacher and get things so badly wrong. As much as anything else schools should be a SAFE place physically , emotionally , and spiritually for ALL children who go there
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -1/+10We had a similar exercise. The same thing happened to a classmate of mine and we went to private Catholic high school.
Religion has nothing to do with it.- eir574, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3That's interesting to hear. After reading through the various comments on this page (and on other articles that somehow relate to the supposed atrocities of the public school system), I've been wondering if Christian schools are really so much better in this regard. I would be surprised if there's any school that doesn't place at least some trust in its teachers to design their own lesson plans. There will always be teachers at any school who take things too far and/or make mistakes like the survey in this article or the exercise MarilynBr describes. They're horrible, but they're also not par for the course at public schools. These kinds of things are anomalies, and there's no guarantee that they won't occur at Christian schools as well.
- Argentian, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2What happened in your Catholic high school? Did someone get the boot?
- drachemorder, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7"... she left the school and attended a private Christian school for the rest of her high school years."
Well, at least one good thing came out of it. - harpazo, on 05/14/2008, -0/+4It would be nice to know that one of life's terrible lessons for you was turned into one of life's good lessons for your students in that you taught them to be confident in themselves and compassionate toward their fellow classmates. Hats off to you.
- Taquoshi, on 05/14/2008, -1/+2Our school had students giving out Valentines. If some of the messages I received on the cards were written today,a lot of people would be charged with hate crimes. And I can also remember being humiliated in math class. And, yes, it was a Catholic School.
The issue is not the school, but the fact that children need to be taught restraint. Many years ago, I was taught that "if you have nothing good to say, say nothing". Others learned "If you have nothing good to say, come sit by me." It's funny until....you are the subject of the discussion. There have been times when I have pointedly kept my mouth shut (and bit my tongue a few times, too!) and then the situation changed and I came out ahead of the game because I kept my mouth shut.
Today, people think nothing of saying whatever crosses their mind because they have the right to say so. These children are a perfect example of that, and the teacher clearly hasn't a clue to what she did. Or if she did, she clearly didn't care and shouldn't be teaching.
- AThoughtOrTwo, on 05/14/2008, -0/+11I feel a bit of outrage over this. But I feel something else when I think of the kid voted "most likely to die." That's going to eat at him (her) for a LONG TIME. Same with the one "most likely to get AIDS" - especially with all the repercussions of this disease.
- dd12101, on 05/14/2008, -1/+8Once again our educators deem to know what is better for our children than their parents. I'm sure that there is some elusive but educational aspect to this excercise. Just ask the teacher. Perhaps we should ask the entire teachering staff at this school "Who is likely to get fired from their teaching job?" Now that would be insightful....
- CC777, on 05/14/2008, -1/+12Just one more fine reason to home school.
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -3/+5Not really. Do you think things like these occur commonly? No, WND has a history of publishing shock stories to "outrage" parents as a scare tactic.
- harpazo, on 05/14/2008, -2/+3No, really. Its just one more...some others:(not exhaustive) being force-fed the theory of evolution, the acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle, the notion that kids can't say "No" to sex but they can say it to drugs and the disrespect of the students toward authorities.
- Taquoshi, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2I disagree, anstice85. I have a fair amount of contact with our local Board of Education because of my job. I also know a fair number of teachers in three different towns, because of my job. Even if one quarter of the stories that I have heard are true, it's a brutal, brutal world in those hallways.
As a matter of fact, one week ago today, I had the somber duty of attending the wake of a friend's 17 year old grandson who was found by his father with a gunshot wound to the head. No, it wasn't suicide and the police are working overtime to catch whoever did this to Kyle.
I am not a fan of overinflating student's egos, but neither do I support the reckless manner in which this teacher acted.
- anstice85, on 05/14/2008, -3/+5Not really. Do you think things like these occur commonly? No, WND has a history of publishing shock stories to "outrage" parents as a scare tactic.
- kittydee1, on 05/14/2008, -2/+9if people don't know that sending their kids to government schools is child abuse by now they never will, and before they complaint on how expensive private schools are, they should give up their i-pods, SUVs and directv, not to mention cigarettes and alcohol.
- KCLorelei39, on 05/14/2008, -2/+4amen!
- IBIJCOL, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3Amen kittydee! It's called sacrifice.
- dorsey47, on 05/14/2008, -1/+8HEY! TEACHER! LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!
- mrwizard14, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Love those Pink Floyd references.
- Harvester1, on 05/14/2008, -2/+6Sixth grade means what? Eleven and twelve year olds? I know we're hearing more and more about younger children being sexually active, but I doubt that enough of these children are to justify any determination that they will be at risk of contracting AIDS or of becoming pregnant. This was an inexcusable exercise in sexualizing children and will only serve to make them view each other in ways very few of them would have done on their own. I doubt this was a misguided attempt to promote abstinance, and I am not particularly impressed with a vague promise that this is "under investigation." How long does it take to ask, "Did you do this or not?"
- GoteamVenture, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1I agree and if you noticed the method the teacher used, it's unacceptable. All he did was have all the classmates write down who they thought was most likely to get AIDS or get pregnant. Now if it had been a survey about how sexually active these kids were and remained strictly confidential I could maybe see it's use if it were done more around the age of 15, but the way the teacher did it was ridiculous.
- jesusis1, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7This teacher obviously was teaching statistics to a 6th grade class. Did he/she teacher the math that goes with it. This teacher should learn the statistics of what happens to teachers that go too far out of the required curriculum. They get fired! They also will never teach again.
- LifeguardMom, on 05/14/2008, -3/+15H O M E S C H O O L!
'nuff said. - karishore, on 05/14/2008, -2/+6Here's another thought.... your taxes pay for school teachers. The teachers work for YOU!
- IBIJCOL, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6Amen!
- IBIJCOL, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5My Amen belongs to kittydee1.
- mak747, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3Why, once again, the too obvious here is overlooked is beyond me. We are talking about a GOVERNMENT SCHOOL. Instead of focusing on what the "teacher" did or why, no parent should entertain in their wildest dreams the notion of letting their kids be "educated" by the government.
Homeschooling, until it too is outlawed, is the ONLY option aside from the very best private schools, which can only be judged as such by parents. Private schools will be outlawed in short order as well.
Anyone with kids must take the education of same as the most serious matter in their lives. Money is no object; where there is a will there is a way, and God will provide if you have the sincerety in your heart to trust Him.
Parents and communities educate. Government indoctrinates. There are no exceptions. While education remains in the hands of parents and communities is the time to get serious about this before it is too late. - wallymcdoogle, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5Kittedee1 is right.
I've driven a 15 year old truck while my kids are in a private, nurturing, uplifting Christian School. The difference is incredible when I talk with public school seniors. Its a difficult financial choice, but looking at my graduating senior and the smart, upright and wholesome young adult she had become, makes the decision an easy one. I would do it over again without thought next time. Besides, there is financial aid available for those struggling. There is no option, other than home schooling, and for those that can provide the effort and time, that is also miles better than the public "non" education. - 10QGZus, on 05/14/2008, -1/+3Wallymcdoogle
We also have driven used cars and rented our home so I could home school our children. Now that they are grown it is amazing how responsible and mature they are. I employ high school students, and believe me, I have to do a lot of training with them on basic things like being on time, writing down their schedule, and doing clean up (some of these kids have never done a chore in their life!).
My kids all have jobs, and do the nasty things at work like cleaning the bubble gum off the bottoms of tables or scrubbing the toilets because no one else will do it. House cleaning was part of our home school curriculum.
Parents need to seriously consider home schooling or having their kids attend private schools. These government run schools are abominable and detrimental to our children. Our kids deserve better. - Taquoshi, on 05/14/2008, -0/+2I find the most interesting thing about this is that if a student had doodled a gun or written with a pen with the Glock logo on it, he or she would have been suspended. However, this teacher is asking the students to elect who would be the first to die???? Is this hypocrisy or what?
As I said in an earlier post on this thread, a friend's 17 year old grandson was murdered last week. I went to the wake. The other students there were beside themselves with grief. And Kyle was a pretty popular guy. He's the last one anybody would have chosen for that dubious honor. What was this woman thinking??? Oh, forget that....she clearly wasn't thinking at all!!!! - InMaine, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1I'm sorry to say that the most tragic part of this is that the father of this poor girl has given away his God ordained duty of directing his child's education. If you put your child in public school....or sadly, even a Christian school, you no longer have control of what your children are exposed to, are influenced by, etc.
Ultimately, this man is going to have to stand before God and give an account of what God gave him stewardship over. God is going to hold him accountable for passing his duty to the like of this teacher.
His only recourse is to be a man and take responsibility now, and pull her out of this school and take control of her education.
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