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- aaronlidman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+57ipod .mp4= 152mb
regular .mov= 336mb
dvd .iso= 1.43gb
just thought you might want to know before deciding to download it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38thats stupid. what kind of pirate supporting site doesnt release a version in xvid
- brhad56, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31Stop drinking from the RIAA's kool-aide. Downloading music is not theft. For it to be theft, the owner would have to lose something. The correct term is copyright infringment.
- lotrgamemast, on 11/01/2007, -1/+31I've not got round to watching it yet but it looks interesting. The site hurts my eyes though :S
- stylesP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24readable version
In 2006, a group of friends decided to make a film about filesharing that *we* would recognise. There have been a few documentaries by 'old media' crews who don't understand the net and see peer-to-peer organisation as a threat to their livelihoods. They have no reason to represent the filesharing movement positively, and no capacity to represent it lucidly. We wanted to make a film that would explore this huge popular movement in a way that excited us, engaged us, and most importantly, focussed on what we know to be the positive and optimistic vision many filesharers and artists (they are often one) have for the future of creativity.
Hopefully you'll enjoy the first part of Steal this Film ('stockholm, summer 2006'). It achieves some, but by no means all, of our goals. To continue we need your help. this film is free for you to share, watch on your dvd player or on your ipod, or show in cinemas. But if you like the work we've done and want us to carry on, use our donate link to send us a couple of dollars or euros.
We will start making the second part straight away, and release it on this site and on major bittorrent trackers, when it's done. Each part, we estimate, will take about 2 months to complete. the plan for the second part is on our wiki. Feel free to add suggestions.
The league of noble peers. august 2006 - à nous la liberté! - RyanDaRin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25Gosh, I'll design a website for you for free, just so I dont have to look at that!
- georgemoore13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_Torrent
Read up. - LegendarySock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Better question, what kind of pirate supporting site would release a movie in .mov format?
- sirwarp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15First off, I enjoyed this film,
I'm surprised that nobody has commented on the little subliminal messages near the beginning on this film, they flash really fast, have to rewind and use pause to actually read it, or at least I did.
~4:54 it flashes: Resist Share Copy
~5:04 it flashes: Copy
~5:19 it flashes: Paste
~5:39 it flashes: Enjoy
~6:35 it flashes: Sharing is not stealing
Corporations seek profit, they are very good at it and they can always find ways to get it. Many of us were downloading mp3’s on our 14.4 modem when it took hours to get a single song sometimes, we saw this problem slowly coming, and eventually movies will become as fast to download as mp3’s are now. The entertainment industry will find ways to profit from this and they already are. itunes and other pay-for-mp3 sites are profiting and also many cell phone services allow people to buy mp3’s for .99 cents. To me it’s pathetic when you can get it for free but I don’t think most people realize just how computer illiterate the world still is. I mean, for goodness sakes they have to sell MP3 players by telling how many songs it will hold because nobody knows what “30GB” means.
Remember back in the day you could just type “warez serials” in yahoo.com and get a nice list of serials for any app? Now look how annoying that is, have to deal with tons of stupid pop-ups and spyware programs. Warez was even banned from most online programs like AOL. - if your reading this your defiantly not using AOL though =P
Sooner or later downloading a real copy for money will be easier than downloading a fake copy off the internet; Much like On Demand from Comcast in the USA. I mean, yes I can download “Top Gun” the movie off the internet, give me like 3 hours or more, I’m on a T3 but it will probably take much longer because it’s an old movie and nobody seeds it, Then give me like another 5 minutes to burn it on a DVD, Oh Wait, it’s divx, can’t do an iso burn, have to play the whole damn movie to burn, so that’s another 2 hours. OR I can pay 2.99 and watch the movie right now on demand……....which do you pick?
But yes I enjoyed this film very much =P – cool to know a little more about piratebay.
-Sirwarp - atari, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13streaming versions via revver (had to split it up b/c of file limits):
part 1a: http://www.revver.com/video/50966/
part 1b: http://www.revver.com/video/51010/
should be up on archive.org shortly... - orlyyarly, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16you're at work and you're downloading torrents?
- walterd93, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18You don't know much about bittorrent, do you...?
- turbodigg, on 10/27/2007, -0/+10the film was great, and did you see that MPAA old dude who was like "You can't give a product away for free...It's not the flow of nature" what a douche, I mean come on, did he sit down and produce, act, or create any of the films that he is defending? No. He just sits there and collects money and spends it on nice expensive cars, houses, etc. I bet he even has more than one maid. Sickens me.
- warofwrath, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10It's not worth watching unless you "steal" it. Streaming from a video site just doesn't do it justice and results in a far lower quality of image.
- szelij, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Any HTTP link? GVideo..or youtube..
- blueigloo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9After looking at that website for a minute, i think i am completely blind! Downloading the video though..
- sneeka2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Anyone else wondering why the last lines of the credits say "Copyright 2006"?! I would've expected a "Copyleft" or CC statement or something.
Or is it just so we'll be able to "steal" it? =) - icurnvs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Mov file - http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3514711/StealThisFilm.Part1.mov
iPod Video file - http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3514718/StealThisFilm.Part1.iPod.m4v
DVD Image - http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3514722/StealThisFilm.Part1.iso - luciferin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9If you're arguing that it is morally and linguistically stealing to download music/movies then you would (arguably) be right. However, it is not theft in the legal sense of the word, which is what really matters when a company accuses you of theft.
If you are taken to court for this you are not charged with theft, you are charged with copyright infringement. It is as simple as that. - nullynull, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Dear MPAA,
Where's my check?
Yours Truly
Thomas Edison - montiff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3514711/StealThisFilm.Part1.mov
- stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11It's a bit embarrassing (or maybe just ignorant) that they use mov I'd say. There's plenty of free, available-for-all codecs that does not suck up to a DRM-loving, patent-enforcing, freedom-crushing, lock-in vendor.
Theora would be absolutely wonderful, and showing that you aren't just a poser, but there are more alternatives. - Ebeniz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3514722/StealThisFilm.Part1.iso
- stoffe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9And even better, what kind of organisation *against* patents and DRM would?
- spotty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Dugg for the title.
- Arnold22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Oh my eyes. This movie had better look better than their site
- brucebeh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6can someone post this on google video? or a director can post it on youtube?
pretty please?
thanks! - CriX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Can someone please make an actual argument FOR their support of everyone's rights to possess content that you otherwise would have had to pay for?
Because I can't. Because I think it is messed up to not pay for something that was enabled by the whole concept of business incentivized by profit. If I like a movie I get in on DVD. If I like a band then I go buy their CD to support them and their label.
Please, please explain this to me. I'm really starting to think that this is just a typical youth thing where it's cool to fight the Man and idealism that all content that can be digitized should be inherently distributable without rules or moral conscious. - turbodigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Download the DVD version took me 5 hours theres about 1000 peers and 900 seeds as I type, I think they have a MP4 Version, but it is in iPod video format which means that it is 320x240 and 760ish kbps or lower. yuck
- edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Is the DVD version of a higher quality than the regular .mov, or is it just a straight transcode to MPEG2?
- NivenHuH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Here's a good human-readable form of the US' fair use guidelines...
http://www.utsystem.edu/OGC/intellectualProperty/copypol2.htm#test
I typically share and duplicate work for non-profit and educational purposes. According to this article, I have shouldn't be concerned about copyright infringement since it's covered under fair use... or am I crazy? - Hemingrubbish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yes! a movie that doesn't have "snakes" in the title...
(or something that rhymes with snakes. like cakes. i was disappointed by Cakes on a Train...) - JMufla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I agree with you completely sirwarp,
Further, I would like to add something, I am S/W engineer that turned to economics in the last years... (equally as fascinating!) Because of this I have been exposed to a variety of economic theories and concepts. Frankly what strikes me, is the inevitability of this... Nobody in Hollywood pretends that BitTorrent isn't a major threat to the established business model, but equally nobody sees it as a golden opportunity for a new business model. If the big studios would spend 1/2 the money they spend on litigation (such as the lobbying for the raid on the piratebay) on R+D I am sure we would have a viable business model in less than it takes for Bluray to arrive!
Seriously, without having to go as "far" back as the VCR case, look at DVD's... In the mid 90's there was talk of the cinema culture being dead... with all the plasma screens, dvd movies and surround systems, who would want to go watch the movies at the cinema?? Well, turns out more people than ever! As DVDs proved not only to be a formidable revenue source, but also a booster to the cinema culture!
As Sirwarp already pointed out above, the mass market will always need mass distribution, equally there is always a niche market to cater for niche needs...
From an academic point of view, one could use a multitude of theories and models and what not, fact remains... adapt or die. Someone will adapt, someone will die... Revolutions, political, economical, technological or social are part of evolution and what makes us human/moves us forward.
I am not at all concerned for the users, the internet, bit torrent, the movie studios, the actors and whatnot... Economical evolution will take its course, simply adapt... or don't... - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Agreed... creative and artsy (well, compared to anything I could come up with! not saying much) but terrible, I can't even bring myself to read the mushed-together text.
- RyanDaRin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Mirror of torrent file
ryandarin.phpnet.us/1.torrent - atari, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4http://www.archive.org/details/STEAL_THIS_FILM
regular version via archive.org - digitul, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3When Hollywood has burnt, where will you get your movies from?
oh god no that would be a nightmare! no more lame uncreative unoriginal garbage being churned out week after week - tegel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Realy good work, can't wait for the next one.
- turbodigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3By The Way anyone downloading the DVD version be warned its PAL.
- ting, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4It's pity that the guys that are involved with piratebay don't have clear understanding for their place in the whole drama. They basically say that because internet is here and there is technical possibility we will pirate. Change your business model if you can. Wrong. Nobody should do anything bad to other just because he can.
But the story is much more complicated. These suc**rs in the movie industry become richer and richer using the established unfair system. Everyone who can think with his own head knows that. Some movie-who**s, tv-jeste*s, elected stars, etc, etc. make tons of money that can feed whole areas in Africa, Asia even Eastern Europe. Is it fair? Is it normal? I don't think so. May be now somewhere in Africa is starving little girl that has the talent and beauty to became star or other one producer, but no-one will give a sh** about them.
So once in a while nature give the power to the little guys to reinstate what is right. Now is such a changing time. The problem is what the "little guys" will do with the power when win? Are they going to become a lil bit fatter & bigger and on their turn make others "little". Like the poor artists working form castle to castle for a pennies in the pre-media times become spoiled super-stars and sex-symbols of nowadays. Time will show. - atari, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3ting, groups like www.freeculture.org, www.piratbyran.org, and www.piratpartiet.se are trying to change just that. i agree that in some respects the pirate bay doesn't necessarily work towards the aim of a freer society (frankly, i'd just rather that we not have to rely on hollywood so much to begin with), but well, things like posting this documentary are a step forward...
- mootaccount, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2part1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw3HNTRpP-I
part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY-dlyFju1w
part3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTey38YkLus
part4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSsn3lnDvI - CriX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41. Radio music is pretty crappy quality
2. You are forced to listen to advertisements between songs which ends up as small payment to the music producer
2. Broadcast radio doesn't have a search function (you don't get to choose exactly what song to hear)
3. Radios typically are not hooked up to recording devices
4. Radio general plays a couple hit tracks only, you'd need to go buy the CD or steal the entire album through the Internet if you wanted to hear the rest.
I do understand your point though and I'm not totally committed to letting these industries get their hands in our lives. But I just don't understand people that can't sympathize with their dillemma. And I don't think "***** copyright laws, I am entitled to everything for free" is the right approach or attitude. There needs to be some compromise, or some statistics done that show that torrenters also buy movies and music and go to the theater and concerts. - stochastic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3All those lamers who are whining about not being able to play the video, or asking for uploads to YouTube (puleeese!) are EXACTLY the ones who should be paying through the nose for their filtered content. Or as Uncle Monty says in 'Withnail and I': "Free for those who can afford it, very expensive for those who can't".
- joerod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I enjoyed this film as well, and I did notice those flashing words through out the movie. I am not an advocate for stealing, I think most of these entertainers are great talent and like everyone they would like to get paid for what they do... this is understandable... what is not understandable is why the record companies have not lowered the price of retail CDs and why they are so reluctant to find new ways to distribute their product IE. Itunes or any other online store.. the bottom line on this matter is people who don't want to pay for something will always find a way, and people who like to support their band or favorite actor will go to the movies or buy CDs. There are still people like that in this world. i guess this is some justice for what these companies have done to consumers over the years... like buying a $18 CD that has 1 good song on it, or paying $9 for a crappy movie. these entertainment companies have to do a couple of things.. 1) lower your prices, if a retail album or movie costs as much as a bootleg or even if the retail is a little more people will be more inclined to buy it.. 2) embrace new technology and ways to distribute their product.
- thehacker123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4116387786400792905&hl=en
Digg my story "Steal Thios Film Posted ON google videos - bramkok, on 07/02/2009, -0/+2The subliminal msg's all over the film are a bit stupid..
- jcnewsome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2When the calculator was invented I'm sure no one really cared that the slide rule makers went out of business. New technology brings change. And, it seems this technology, or others like it, will persist. Therefore, for Hollywood to thrive it must adapt. It's pretty much that simple.
Hey, maybe Hollywood should sue whoever made these tubes big enough to stuff movies and music into. That would solve their problem.
I grew up on t.v., a lot of t.v. When I went to college I went without cable so it wouldn't be a distraction, difficult at first. When my wife and I moved back to my hometown, we decided not to waste money on it. Several members of my family have basically said, "You don't have cable? That's so sad." But I believe I am more entertained by the clips on Google and U-Tube and of course the variety of information on Digg.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2ftp://ia311509.us.archive.org/2/items/STEAL_THIS_FILM/StealThisFilm.Part1.mov
- fredsterss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3dugg. great film, fantastic idea, piratebay rocks, good editing.
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