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- AmyVernon, on 10/26/2009, -2/+58I'm really torn on this. One of my closest friends in high school killed himself the summer after I graduated, so I know the importance of paying attention to the signs. But I also believe that too many children and teens are just "diagnosed" and drugged and that doesn't solve anything either. Screening in and of itself is a good thing, it's more what results from it that's an issue, I suppose.
- AnotherDiggGuy, on 10/26/2009, -2/+32If a teen wasn't suicidal before, they probably won't feel any better about themselves after they've been sent off for testing.
- Bowie, on 10/26/2009, -3/+31Gee, how about instead of screening teens for suicide risk, YOU DON'T DO THINGS TO THEM TO MAKE THEM CONSIDER SUICIDE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
o Treat them with respect.
o Unless you're being physically abused, or have a child in harm's way, don't get a ***** divorce. Kids need parents.
o Let them sleep.
o Expect them to make big ***** mistakes. You did too. That's how you learn the bigger lessons.
o Don't be a dick to your kid, even if they deserve it.
o Don't manage every aspect of their lives. They can manage their own.
o Understand that rebellion is a natural process of establishing one's self-identity, not an insult to your parenting skills.
o Don't be a bad example.
o Don't overdiscipline.
o Don't underdiscipline.
o Encourage them to go to college so they don't end up flipping my burgers.
o They WILL grow out of it.
o Some things may not be important to you, but it's important to them.
o You have it figured out. They don't yet, and won't until they're older.
o Schools are prisons. Don't be surprised when your kid acts like an inmate on parole.
o Ask questions. Your kid isn't on autopilot and can use some advice sometimes.
o Make yourself available. Better he knows he can go to his parents for help than some dickweed you don't know.
o Be patient. He'll be an adult soon. - Chooxo, on 10/26/2009, -4/+261. Do you like Twilight?
- dshPls, on 10/26/2009, -2/+20No kid ever tells the truth on these things.
- agentsrecord, on 10/26/2009, -1/+18Can't we go back to the glory days of my youth where no one gave a *****?
- willspence, on 10/26/2009, -0/+152. How many times a week do you shop at Hot Topic?
0-1 - What do I look like? A vampire?
2-5 - Only when I run out of guy-liner
5-10 - I can never have enough Nightmare Before Christmas apparel
>10 - I want to have issues, but I live in upper middle class suburbia and my life is pretty good, so this is how I am rebelling. - Pxtl, on 10/26/2009, -0/+14I'd wager some do. Not everybody has a heart-to-heart with Mom and Dad very often, so they really aren't in the position to tell *anybody* about their problems.
What, you think that suicidal losers have friends to talk to?
Obviously, a lot of kids would lie, but for some kids this might be the first time anybody really stopped to check if they were okay. - onebadsummer, on 10/26/2009, -0/+13and what happens when a teenager is flagged as at-risk? who gets this information? schools and insurance companies and potential employers that can effectively discriminate. suicide and depression are very large stigmas.
- ziplizard, on 10/26/2009, -1/+13o Unless you're being physically abused, or have a child in harm's way, don't get a ***** divorce. Kids need parents.
I don't agree with this. - AManWithNoName, on 10/26/2009, -1/+13I can testify on the 'diagnosed and drugged' myself. That's how I was in high school. The drugs don't actually cure depression, they make you unable to feel depression--Or anything else, really. They're simply numbing agents. And I can tell you, there's not much that's more depressing than knowing that you're numbing your own mind with drugs for reasons that you don't quite understand.
I didn't manage to get past my depression until I quit the meds and just decided to handle it through willpower. These days, I'm not suicidal, but I do get depressed pretty easily. That said, I'm not entirely sure this will do all that much good. From my own experiences, psychiatrists and psychologists did very little to help me. In the end, it was I alone who treated the depression. Maybe it helps other people, but it didn't for me. - sgerwel1985, on 10/26/2009, -3/+14A lot of kids would rather off themselves than take some stupid quiz.
- xsteponmex, on 10/26/2009, -0/+9And what are the odds of them being truthful? I know the quizzes they gave about alcohol and drugs to us, I was far from honest.
I think that the kids that are doing the "cry for help" would raise some flags by testing, but those that are isolated and truly suicidal will likely not answer truthfully. - SuperStromboli, on 10/26/2009, -0/+9You'd be surprised. I told the truth on one when I was depressed teenager. Although, I never would have had the balls to kill myself, answeringly honestly about what I thought opened a door that led to a few talks with a psychiatrist. Just talking about ***** helped me realize that I was depressed because I was IN high school. The issue worked itself out eventually (when I went to college).
- Pxtl, on 10/26/2009, -1/+9The lion's share of teenaged suicides are boys, so I'd wager that's not a good question.
The correct one would be Linkin Park. - RavagedSoul, on 10/26/2009, -1/+9and stop forcing them to take psychotropic drugs cause they're acting like kids, and have their own personalities.
- Netsloth, on 10/26/2009, -1/+9Maybe they should have screening at work too for the 35 year old guys who have nothing to look forward to but 35 more years of work and then a couple of years of poverty before they kick it.
This ***** sucks. - AManWithNoName, on 10/26/2009, -0/+8Best parental advice I've ever seen, and I didn't expect to see it on digg of all places. I'd like to add:
o Pay attention to your kids. Don't simply 'tune them out' like some background music. Kids can tell when you do this, and it hurts.
o Let your kid be alone and go out alone. Looking after them is important, but there's a line between being cautious and being overbearing. - whatthefu, on 10/26/2009, -1/+8Suicide isn't just a matter of sensitivity and being treated poorly. It can be a result or culmination of a lot of things.
- Bloodwine, on 10/26/2009, -2/+8Seriously, we need to get back to where we honor our elders and not our youth.
- jimmy17, on 10/26/2009, -1/+7I totally agree with what you say with regards to how to treat children. It does however miss that sometimes it is not a matter of how one is treated. I have one or two friends who come from perfectly stable and loving backgrounds but have suffered mental problems (Bi-Polar Disorder, Anorexia...).
In fact I have myself suffered from *ahem* mental problems and associated thoughts which I dont wish to discuss on such an open forum but I will say that my parents followed the above guidelines and more. They were as perfect as parents could be. That and my brothers, extended family and friends are the same. I can count myself truly lucky to be surropunded by such people but sometimes a brain doesnt work the way its meant to. - barcardi, on 10/26/2009, -0/+6If kids these days are anything like me and my friends they would do one thing and one thing only when they saw a psychological quiz: cheat as much as possible to seem as ***** up as possible.
- hebejebelus, on 10/26/2009, -0/+6S'fairly dystopian that this is even necessary, no?
- jonas19, on 10/26/2009, -0/+5Obviously, I never committed suicide(nor make an attempt), but at some very scary moments it felt like a way out of the pain I was in. It is a completely miserable feeling of hopelessness that you can't understand until you have felt it. You all think you are strong minded because you never had these thoughts? Yeah right. Try living inside your head; where your mind only shows you bad things you don't want to think about and tells you there is nothing to look forward to and still amongst all that you find a way to keep your head up and find hope. If you met me in person you would never think I was "emo" or "goth" or suicidal. The depression I had came out of nowhere and hit me hard and it was really hard to get through. Maybe some kids would lie on these tests, but the doctors could weed them out in a simple interview. Most suicidal people don't want to think about suicide, they are haunted by it.
- shadowspawn, on 10/26/2009, -1/+6I have a son approaching puberty, and a daughter who already started it. I'm telling ya, those parts of your life you don't really remember. They are moody as ***** at the least expectant things.
- xsteponmex, on 10/26/2009, -1/+6Any boy wearing eye liner is at risk.
- Lith25, on 10/26/2009, -0/+5I can't believe questionnaires ever work with teens. When I was in school we all thought we were cool by faking our answers on surveys and questionnaires. Also drawing out designs on those 'bubble in your answer' sheets were fun.
- jonas19, on 10/26/2009, -0/+5@ AManWithNoName yeah it was the same for me. My anxiety does help me though just take the edge off to make it manageable. As for my depression, I spent a very long and scary process beating in on my own. Doctors did very little for me except to make me poorer, but at the same time it was a good starting point to get the problem out on the table.
- ousthouse, on 10/26/2009, -0/+5Medical professionals = Bad
Murderers = Good
??????? - nobody41, on 10/26/2009, -0/+5 well hey murderers are a form of population control..so if you were to keep consistent, then you must support murder (for population level purposes of course). and make no mistake, suicide is murder.
and as steadfastly and to my very core as i disagree with you, your point is interesting. and from a certain vantage point makes total sense. But it seems to me a way of looking at the world that requires an almost total severing and cold disregard for love and fellow beings, dreams, Joie de vivre, you know? but hey whatever floats your boat. - firesphotons, on 10/26/2009, -0/+5I was thinking along the same lines, maybe they should improve life and society so people don't see death as a decent option. They say life is a gift and perhaps it is, too bad the gift is tainted by this world the minute you get here.
- MasterInsan0, on 10/26/2009, -0/+4But...but...that takes all the fun out of being the parent of a teenager! Good parents will hassle, nag, bitch, control, and scream until their kid ends up knocking up a girl (or getting knocked up) fresh out of high school and moving into a trailer! What more could a parent want?!
Seriously though, I'm not sure if those things you listed lead to suicide so much as they lead to issues later in life. Maybe a large number of them together could contribute to suicide, but the things that I've found cause the most problems for teens these days are:
1) Teenage love. All that passion and emotion and hormone heavily distort reality.
2) Social cliques. Being accepted is a huge part of our society, and being outside the major social "cliques" can really screw with a kid. Of course, these days there's a clique for those kids that don't fit into the other cliques, but for some reason instead of realizing that they are in a clique of their own, they just commiserate with the others.
3) Parental problems. Yeah, these do contribute to it.
4) Legitimate medical problems. Some people really do simply get depressed for no good reason.
5) Attention. Some people need to feel important, so by threatening suicide they're trying to elicit a response from others. Not getting that response can make them feel unloved, but giving it to them fuels their addiction to attention. - SmokenJoe, on 10/26/2009, -0/+4Make us happy. Real emotion is dangerous.
"A gramme is better than a damn."
- Aldous Huxley
"When the individual feels, the community reels."
- Aldous Huxley - Bloodwine, on 10/26/2009, -0/+4The comments are funnier than the video.
"FUK U I'M EMO AND THIS AIN'T WHAT WE R ALL ABOUT! KEEP IT UP ***** AND I WILL SHOOT U IN HEAD WITH BAZOOKA! YOU PILE O *****!!" - Hetman, on 10/26/2009, -1/+5No kids will be kids.
- Barackalypse, on 10/26/2009, -0/+4No, its not healthy for kids to constantly have people examining them to make sure there isn't anything wrong with them. What kind of message does that send?
- kingbinji, on 10/26/2009, -2/+5parents
- Praelior, on 10/26/2009, -0/+3This post shows a blatant disregard for people with a mental illness. There are people who it flat out does not matter how they were raised, what their parents were like, or how good things are in their life. They were born with a miss-wired brain. Many are incapable of rationally looking at their situation, and wont "grow out of it" unless they receive medication and professional help.
- inactive, on 10/26/2009, -0/+3Dramatic readings of teenage emo youtube comments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euQHwPOdNxg
- TheBlargh, on 10/27/2009, -0/+3That's what makes us human. We actually take care of our own. Have you ever seen what a cat does to his handicapped new born? He just leaves it there to die. Survival of the fittest applies more to animals in the wild.
- atlasdugged, on 10/26/2009, -2/+5The earlier the diagnosis is made, the easier it is for the child to integrate treatment into his or her life. More effective early screening could prevent major life shattering psychotic episodes that leave the individuals and familes totally upended.
- mksmothers, on 10/26/2009, -0/+3Sure, I want social services calling me because my child is considered at risk. This of course would be followed up by Social Services flexing their new-found muscle and demanding, on threat of removal of children, that I attend a battery of classes and take a battery of tests.
The LAST thing you want is the government collecting mental health information. - inactive, on 10/26/2009, -0/+3"Unless you're being physically abused, or have a child in harm's way, don't get a ***** divorce. Kids need parents."
Yeah, because dysfunctional families who stay together "for the kids" are any better ;)
They are, in fact, worse. - jimmy17, on 10/26/2009, -0/+3Is that meant to be a serious reply or a David Brent "management speak" solution?
Sometimes, yes, people are just too weak but sometimes they have genuine problems. Don't tell me my friend's Bi-polar disorder was caused by weakness and more than you would tell someone their cancer is. - defmer, on 10/26/2009, -0/+3no we should be screening parents (to be parents) for capability to be a good parent.
- Valyn, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2While I COMPLELETY argee with your (I assume) point about good parenting becoming less common, even among 'normal' families with good parents, kids, and especially teens won't always talk with their parents. Friends and acquaintances and everyone really NEED to understand the signs so they can bring up the topic to the parents/whomever needs to know.
- Valyn, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2Goes to show, that at least in that cross section of people, knowledge about HIV is getting very high. We need to find a way to get knowledge and prevention or suicide this popular/part of everyday life. Not something that is to be embarrassed by.
- keving727, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2I think people are mixing common teenage moodiest and clinical depression. There is one thing emotion lability that comes with adolescent years and another showing clear symptoms of major depression and suicide ideations. The stereotypical "emo" teenager may have a negative view of the world and himself, but do they display true symptoms of depression over a extended period of time (poor appetite, difficulty sleeping, racing thoughts, loss of pleasure). More importantly there is a big difference between a kid that says "I wish I was dead" than someone who has a these thoughts constantly, has a plan, has a long history of thinking about suicide, has maybe told others they would kill themselves, and may have even attempted suicide in the past.
- Daxx22, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2That was the point ;)
- detcade, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2aw I didn't study ***** this
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