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- samard2002, on 06/04/2009, -6/+60Is the media still pretending that people play Second Life?
- zephc, on 06/04/2009, -1/+27It will be the second college graduation ever to have flying penises wiggling across the auditorium.
The first was the Yale class of 1955 graduation. - KSUdesigner, on 06/04/2009, -1/+25I work in an ad agency and the boss just heard about Second Life. It got him so excited that he wants me to research what we can do for our clients to advertise on there. I told him it was a waste of time, yet he thinks it's going to be the next big thing, despite the fact that it's been around for about 6 years and nothing big has ever come out of it. Of course he is 65 years old and very out of touch with reality. I told him that Twitter is where it's at right now (though I can't stand that site either), but he won't listen. I need to find a new job, where people actually have a clue. FML
- airwalke, on 06/04/2009, -1/+19Taking bets on how soon into the ceremony a furry streaks across the stage.
- Smokeydabear, on 06/04/2009, -1/+18Is the guest speaker going to be boring and as unrelated to the college as possible, just to keep up with commencement tradition?
- sh1tman, on 06/04/2009, -1/+17You forgot to start that with "Today,"
- bkraj, on 06/04/2009, -5/+20Groan.
- rodon, on 06/04/2009, -1/+15College was distracting enough while I was actually there, but in Second Life?!?
I'd have a hell of a time concentrating on my studies with over 9000 penises floating through the classroom or 2 furries getting it on in the back of class. - Shawno1, on 06/04/2009, -2/+15This is *****.
- VisualRhetoric, on 06/04/2009, -2/+15I don't care what kind of education you received or what kind of qualifications you have...I will not hire you if I find out you went to "college" in Second Life.
- Denominator88, on 06/04/2009, -0/+8Why? You rather pay $15 a month to have no life, rather than not have one for free?
- kevinmoore, on 06/13/2009, -2/+10Bryant & Stratton College is a joke. My wife worked there for a little over a year and had to quit because of their practices. Besides, what the hell is an "accredited proprietary college" anyway? Sounds like ***** to me, along the lines of "we'll take any credits you transfer in but no credits you earn here are good anywhere."
- shicken, on 06/04/2009, -2/+10Reading about Second Life makes me feel better about myself for being a WoW player.
- WilliamAdama, on 06/04/2009, -0/+7Hi Randy,
I may be 65 years old but I am not that out of touch. Can you please meet me in my office tomorrow at 10:30am so we can discuss this?
Thanks. - thunderclap, on 06/04/2009, -1/+8Somebody seriously needs to intervene in Navidb and disconnect him, this is ***** ridiculous. What a monstrous time waster he is. The rest of the world is laughing at him. As for Second life, its a virtual environment like WoW. If you have issues with it, you honestly have nothing better with your time and seriously need to get up and go outside. Let people have fun. There are enough trolls already.
- leprix, on 06/04/2009, -3/+10Nerds.
- Krakerjax, on 06/04/2009, -2/+8Kid, Americans aren't the only ones who play second life. Its a global plague.
- DrReaper, on 06/04/2009, -0/+6I understand they are moving all adult content to a new world. That may help it some. It will be interesting to see what happens to real estate after that.
- luke374, on 06/04/2009, -1/+6I would have totally brought beach balls to toss during the commencement address.
- BuzzFriendly, on 06/04/2009, -1/+6Look at the plus side. You save a lot of money not buying a real cap and gown.
- raynar, on 06/04/2009, -2/+7if i get to keep my dignity, i'll cough up the extra cash.
- thunderclap, on 06/04/2009, -1/+6within the first 20 minutes. And then there will be a shower of penii and 50 minutes in as well.
- benburdick, on 06/04/2009, -0/+5I am not familiar with Second Life... Is it possible to call in a virtual bomb threat? Can I buy a car and drive through the ceremony? Pyrotechnics?
- ElvisMMI, on 06/04/2009, -2/+6Dwight: Second Life is not a game. It is a multi-user virtual user environment. It doesn’t have points or scores. It doesn’t have winners or losers.
Jim: Oh, it has losers… - whiplash65, on 06/04/2009, -0/+4do you still picture Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds screaming that?
- Krakerjax, on 06/04/2009, -2/+5I think I speak for lots of people when I say "What the *****?"
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3That is pretty rude, considering that SL is still growing very fast, inside and outside the US.
Plus, what the ***** is this witchhunt attitude? Are you ***** listening to what you say? You have the nerve to budge in other people's lives, with your lack of basic human civilization and tell them what ***** it is they are doing? What if I ran a manure car into your church at sunday, emptied it into the font entrance on those same arguments? What if I rounded up people halfway a sports match, for the very same reason or "shoot them in the head" to teach them a lesson?
No, Second Life is creeping in, below the radar, spreading. In fifteen years time your firstborn will be virtually masturbated using a realtouch device, by internet, by a cyberwhore working from senegal. And you will never know if that cyberwhore really exists, male or female, or was just a scripted AI.
Sorry buddy, thats the world you are headed for. Better get used to it. SL is only the beginning, and you aint seen nothing yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1adY-8Wv44&NR= ...
You will cry yourself to sleep as an old man as your grandkids all turn raccoon furries. - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3No, but he flunked because the succubus behind him kept touching his Xcite and green spam cascaded over all the questions the teacher asked.
- EastCoastGnar, on 06/04/2009, -3/+6I would be both proud and a little depressed if I graduated from college....on second life.
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3Not that the real world is such a spectacular success lately.
- 2of8, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3and get it on.
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3Yah and people SO DO NOT WANT THAT, so they dig you down.
Because second life is conceptually associated with... what exactly? People ... you dont know... but they look like sexy biatches.. and they might in reality be 60 year old guys.. which upsets your sexual insecurities in what manner exactly?
Dont worry.... very soon the era of griefing will escape second life. Before 2015 you all will see flying penis balloons (and precisely the same crap you occasionally see in any place where people are suddenly let loose) in the streets. You will see a famous politician talk and his face emerges behind a building on a balloon smoking a penis cigar.
This is all very upsetting, but you will all have to get over it. - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+3Fear of change instills otherwise decent people to huddle together and freeze motionless.
- remotehuman, on 06/04/2009, -2/+5Bryant & Stratton College*
*Not an actual college - chaos7, on 06/04/2009, -2/+5this almost seems like a joke..but it's true
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2Bwahaaahahaha
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2Yah well, ok, that is CGI graphics yes? Now imagine those graphics in the SL of 2020, or another such application. Now imagine users having control of all movements of such an avatar with simple buttons, and access to thousands of sexual positions, all logically interlinked (or haptics). Now envison a virtual world where erotic events occur in a storyline, with restrictions, fetishes, taboos, specialized places and areas. Imagine experiences linked through the internet with devices such as RealTouch. All participants moving, sounding looking like the most perfect women you can imagine.
This is all sexual, intensely unsettling to anyone not used to it. But nevertheless you jerk off on porn, I jerk off on porn and most male readers on this forum also jerk off on porn. Right now when you watch you are a passive observer. Now imagine not being.
The question is - will the people ten ears from now use porn, or will they move in interactive games, and watch in perfectly tunable detail how their idealized, realistic (or furry) sexual vision gets deliciously sodomized in a lesbian orgy some idealized french renaissance castle for training slaves.
I know this unsettles you. But the point of being unsettled is? - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+3Which is ***** and you know it. The era of "party lines" was a brief annoyance in the history of telephones - in those early days where (...) people used cable connectors and operators to connect it was possible to play with the cables and listen in on conversations, or make farty sounds or lewd statements during conversations. At the time, probably in the 1920s, this issue lasted years and people argued back and forth "damn, this will bring down the phone industries!"
A few years later party lines and all that was history and people conveniently forgot about all that for decades. Why? because it was irrelevant.
You know as well as I do, that any the Fox style of representing events clings. It is not the quadruphlegic who learns to connect to people in second life, no its that tiny irrelevant detail he wears a green suit there. A GREEN SUIT, HOW UTTERLY WEIRD.
Ask yourself, in how much of a constrictively repressed world do you live every day. SL is not such a world. Yes, occasionally a bozo dances on the stage with his underwear on his face (or far, far worse), but so the ***** what? In the real world security tackles people like that, and shoves a hotwired can of pepper spray in his ass, set on full release. Is that (the american) approach to societal engineering so much better?
Trust me, everyone here knows the advantages of telepresence study - no commute. no waste of gas. not getting the flu from your fellow commuters. not getting out of bed an hour earlier. Not sitting in a crowded meldewy classroom worrying if the next guy is carring a knife or has used coke to stay awake. Virtual conferencing, classrooms, trainings, courses, business meetings, science visualisations will be the norm, and not in ten years but a lot faster. Your kids will laugh at you when you say that in your days there was a thing like second life with penises. Your 5 year old daughter will laugh at you and inject a script animating holographic flying penis monkeys on your virtual goggles. - inactive, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2How many million users, worldwide, should 'second life' (or its sequel, or a similar competitor) have before it is not pathetic? Let's say 2020. How many accounts. How many regular users?
2020 - 50 million registered accounts? 10 million regular users? Because that is where we are headed. If not in Second Life then in some other such place.
Bryant and Stratton? Never heard of it. But I did see several dozen companies that do in fact invest serious money and resources in Second Life. - BeforeSputnik, on 06/04/2009, -1/+3I suppose this'd be perfect for the University of Phoenix as well.
- DrReaper, on 06/10/2009, -0/+2The last class I took it was me. I have a knight avatar and twenty femail avatars. I think a couple of them were vampires. Most of them dropped out of the class at some point.
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2No.
It is not *****. It is a feature of the world you at an unconscious level feel deeply troubled and threatened with, an aspect of human nature and human expression and technological advancement that freaks you out, without you completely understanding or even being aware why, so you reject it, in more or less the same manner your parents rejected the internet and mobile phones, with angry fire in their eyes, and your grandparents have that dead, conquered look in their eyes when trying to program their VCR.
... "Future shock is also a term for a certain psychological state of individuals and entire societies, introduced by Toffler in his book of the same name. Toffler's shortest definition of future shock is a personal perception of "too much change in too short a period of time". - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2Bla bla bla. Big words for such a small man.
Then again, unemployed or unemployable people playing Second Life all day. There might be worse things they could be doing - like shooting you in the face, bored *****, for crack money. - Krakerjax, on 06/06/2009, -0/+2Truth be told kid, this is just my daily set of debauchery. I don't really care about second life, it's really just a faint memory for me at this point. I do however, enjoy yanking peoples chains for some kicks.
But you clearly have emotions on this topic, which is really a problem. Its the internet man, relax. Roll something and smoke it, do yourself the favor.
Toodles! - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2Actually the flying penis quickly made its way into the real world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbnySBqioB0
So the net effect right now is *HYSTERIA* in all environments that intend to create a user experience. In Sony Home, where users still don't get the lessons all of us learned in 2005,, anytime some guy wears a female avatar (or the occasional actual girl), the avi gets mobbed by the virtual alternative of Guido's.
http://gizmodo.com/5109634/female-avatars-are-not- ...
The point - there is a staggering amount of ***** going in in the real world, i.e. the one where you go fat, get cancer and pay taxes, that has been edited from your existence for decades by cinema, entertainment, TV and (recently) gaming. Nonsurprising, as soon as the actual world invades the virtual and people get a chance to self-express, they all throw a spas, and not just in Second Life. So what happens? People see this, they see the gutteral filth that has been surpressed and glossed over by decades of media, they suddenly realize.phuck, mister clive fron the hardware store *almost certainly jerks off*.
So people translate that embarrasment, that painful emotion you also feel when you enter your parents bedroom and must conclude that your mom does indeed swallow, and you lock down, alienate, isolate yourself from that pain and humiliation - Second Life shows everyone there that everyone is not glamorous and most people are complete and utter useless excess monkeys serving no purpose but to keep up consumption numbers and clean telephone horns.
There is so much fear right now of letting in "the public", I label this the FPF, indeed, the flying penis factor, the idea that unchoreographed, unsensored retards from iceland can come in your game, walk around with a penis crown and next day your application, with bozo and penis crown and all, is being rammed into the collective guilt laden subconscious of millions of viewers by weasel news.
Yet this is the reality we have to face, and have to deal with. Virtual world will emerge, whether you like or trust your fellow human being or not. Your 13 year old daughter will indeed chat and cyber with her avatar with another avatar, who may look like a small Peter Pan with green tights, but is in fact a 56 year old bangladeshi helpdesk called Ravshi Patruputtaputti worker who likes to wear diapers, living with his mom. Enter Weazel news raiding Ravshi, camera in his face, close up ofa diaper.
So the question is, how long will it take for the world to stop blushing when they see a winged peepee, or when have people finally attained the ***** maturity to show ***** and retardation what it merits - complete apathy. Trust me your daughter will know that lesson far earlier than anyone reading here. - lothar250, on 06/04/2009, -3/+4I don't get it.
- inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+1Do I get this correctly - places like Second Life are environments with no consequence of ***** other than embarrasment, nobody gets hurt, only preuds get really upset or get over it, and nobody gets punished?
So whats the problem, other than "a vague feeling that something is comptely wrong here"
You actually missed the cop with the mace and tazer zapping down the animated bunnie? - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -0/+1I have recently done these things in second life
- created, from scratch, a credible looking dancing swarm of flying skulls that scream and follow you
- bought a cat that looks precisely like the one I had from 1986 to 2000 which attacks people and chases them halfway through the sim (the cat has a push script)
- created a building with tubes and staircases and a swirling green vortex in the middle
- learned how to texture models and create pretty nifty TGA files
- angered a bunch of Blut und Ehre skinheads (who, purely coincidentally were also members of a republican group) by sending them small statuettes of garbage bins overflowing with piles of dollar bills. They firebombed an old house - inactive, on 06/04/2009, -1/+2Maybe, maybe not
I agree, to many people the interface and the peculiar concept of "having to fill in your own time" is a bit if a challenge for some reared on "knight rider", but I sometimes wonder why so many people feel such an abundant urge to bile on this novel concept called "second life"
As it happens, I seen this rejectionist attitude several times before, if to a somewhat less condescending way. In the 90s I was fascinated by the emergence of two new concepts, both which were scored by those that didnt get it, and loathed by those that couldnt catch up. I remember the sourpuss people who said "it's a fad, it'll crash soon and then it will all go away" - that was a NY times editorial in the internet I believe.
Second Life started out as a game, and it may as yet fail as a business concept, but the people creating this "relative mess of a program are in fact laying the brickwork for an application in which in ten years time most people will be working on a daily basis. Your kids will all be in the Second Life of the future and laugh at how you didn't get it back in the old days.
Even then, SL is still growing, and pretty fast too.
It has a 4% market share in telephone. *HOLY COW* - that is actually substantial.
It has the highest recurrent user hours, right after World of Warcraft
It is the most used media tool, *by far*, heavily outweighing twitter, myspace, facebook etc.
So what is it that gives so many people an itchy, annoyed, frustrated, bewildered and sometimes strikingly annoyed behavior when Second Life comes up? Well, my guess is that this is indeed something new and all those people that tried it, and were left flabberghasted, were at some level aware that this was "a revolution happening" but they didnt get it. Or it didnt compete with other interests, So all the people who hated it didnt just want to go and do something else - they felt left out and wanted it to go *away*,
Its not that your side must win - all the other sides must lose.
In the meantime SL is steadily sneaking into higher users numbers in a very below the radar type fashion. It is being assimilated by e-business, e-learning, management training, telepresence, distance operation and management, data visualisation. Sure, sometimes I wonder just how competent Linden Lab is, because they have a HUGE staff, far greater than any game designer company, but still they come up with this mess, and adding new critical features takes them like - a year now??
But even then, the are the pioneers, and even if SL will just wither away, in twenty years time they will be holovised as the guys who started it all. I dont know what the AP will be that may or will wipe SL... bluemars? googleverse? life2.0? Hard to say at this point, because this is a rather new field with rather new challenges.
And if you are up to the challenge, read this: http://gwynethllewelyn.net/2009/05/27/esoteric-imm ... - ShadyGreenTrees, on 06/04/2009, -1/+2We tested Second Life at the last university I worked for, and it was nothing but painful and pointless. Only one professor was brave enough to give it a try, and the course quickly returned to Blackboard. Not that Blackboard is much better...
There is one thing I've been curious about. Can they tell when your computer goes to sleep? -
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