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- mmazing, on 10/11/2007, -1/+58You have to understand how dogs work. They operate on a pack mentality. When someone raises a dog, they see the dog owner as the pack leader, and they do their best to follow what they think their pack leader wants from them.
It makes me SICK to think that there are people out there that could possibly realize this, and exploit it for their own benefit, they take a completely innocent creature, teach it that the correct action is to fight, and it ends up dead. They move on. You might as well be a ***** serial killer if you can't feel any shame in that. - Magillicutti, on 10/11/2007, -2/+46There are few people in this world that disgust me more than people who fight dogs.
- mmazing, on 10/11/2007, -5/+49I've been bitten by 3 dogs in my life, and I still love em, and I still own many that would never hurt a fly. Dogs act how they are taught to act.
- valleyvideo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+39This is a tough video to get through, but I hope more watch. I spent a long time living in the Bay Area, where dog fighting is depressingly popular. We have a rotweiler-german shepherd mix that is the sweetest, most loving, and sensitive dog you've ever met, and we couldn't even take her for a walk in our neighborhood because strangers would approach us with their fighting dogs and try to start fights.
- Rivsklaar, on 10/11/2007, -2/+34My fiancee was a vet tech at a shelter for a while, and the local Animal Control Officer was hospitalized one day for being attacked by what the ACO said were three pit bulls. When my fiancee got there to get the animals from the owner, they were golden retrievers. Ignorance runs deep, even to the people who are supposed to know these things as part of their jobs...
- StudsTurkel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+28I've lost more blood to cats than to dogs.
- grungegbunny, on 10/11/2007, -3/+28I too have been bitten by a pitbull as a child, but I know it is not their fault.
There is no such thing as a bad dog, just bad owners. - monkeyball0101, on 10/11/2007, -8/+30So f'ing true. Doggies are so awesome, it sux so many have to use them in place of a larger penis...
- Mark_DeRidder, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22People who organize or support (watch) dog fights should all go to jail for life. It's disgusting, and disturbing. What souless bastards, I wish the dogs would attack THEM.
- DropTheOxygen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+21You mean humans?
- TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17Certain breeds still have genetic dispositions to certain characteristics. That being said, this movie is completely stupid. They're showing worst case scenarios and made up "myths" they can easily counter. Even experts agree that this breed is known to be dog aggressive and it cannot be trained out of them...according to Pit Bull Rescue Central
It is a fact that our APBTs, ASTs and pit mixes come with a built-in fighting heritage. It doesn’t matter where we get them from, whether it be the pound, a stray we pick up, or a puppy we buy from a breeder. The majority of pit bulls will, at some point in their lives, exhibit some degree of dog-on-dog aggression. This type of animal aggression is completely separate from human-aggression; a well-socialized pit bull is very good-natured with people. Yet, chances are that a "normal" pit bull will not share his affection with other animals. We cannot predict when or where it will happen and we can’t love, train or socialize it out of the dog.
http://www.pbrc.net/dogpark.html - axiomflash, on 10/11/2007, -6/+18Owner behavior obviously plays a huge role, but Pit Bulls and other bully dogs are BRED to have aggressive behavior and have been for hundreds of years. When a pit bull is generally aggressive you can usually assume it is the fault of the owner, but when a nice pit bull snaps and latches onto the jugular of your 4 year old that is instinct and no amount of training is going to stop that.
- rhinopig, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16honestly, this is the first video, movie, or whatever that I've had to look away from since I was 13. Also I'm going to bed soon so I don't want the images haunting me but still, this is pretty disturbing.
- brstilson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13They're used in fights because of the mythology surrounding them. It's a psychological edge for the pit bill owner because of their reputation for being the fiercest dogs in existence. So of course, being a status symbol, all the fighting dog owners get pit bulls.
The Rotweiller and Doberman breeds also suffer this stigma. Dogs/Wolves were the first animals to form a relationship with us humans, they have the strongest ties to us and are truly our best friends in the animal kingdom. It sickens me to see people take advantage of that friendship at the expense of a dog's life. - vhauri, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11"Kill em all I say." "They have been bred for aggression pure and simple."
Whereas you, my friend, have clearly accepted peace and love in your heart. Because you're probably too ignorant to understand, that was sarcasm. - tazamore, on 10/11/2007, -5/+15Pit breeds are sweet and gentle 95% of the time but when they go beserk it's like a bomb going off. The news footage of such incidents as always the same: the dazed owner wondering why their sweet dog suddenly snapped and bit Aunt Emma's face off. Pit owners should be required to be certified and licensed as if they're carrying a gun.
Animal fighters should be arrested and forced to work a full unpaid year at an animal rescue shelter. - rayyy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+13Thanks for the great video.
- gabrielg01, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Pit bulls have great personalities, but as with any dog they can still bite people occasionally. The problem is that pit bulls have the equipment to really hurt people more than other breeds. If you had the choice of choosing between two bad scenarios, would you be bitten by spaniel or by a pit bull?...
- TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I like how brstillson totally ignores the genetic aspect of the way some of these "fighting breeds" are built and suggests it's just "stigma" and "mythology". They are built for fighting. Plain and simple. It's genetic. You cannot train dog-on-dog aggressiveness completely out of these breeds.
http://www.pbrc.net/dogpark.html - mateo60, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9holy *****. I got about 20 seconds in and couldn't finish it. =(
- kathaclysm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9^Certain breeds still have genetic dispositions to certain characteristics.
I hate to be breed-ist, but this is so true, and so many people don't pay attention to this when buying a dog/puppy they think is just so cute. And so dogs wind up in shelters because of "behavior problems" when all they're doing is what they've been bred for!
Wolves have several main instincts; stalk, chase, kill, & retrieve. Most dogs we have as pets were bred to highlight one (or several) of these traits.
Herding dogs stalk & chase, but don't don't have the instincts for kill or retrieve. Pointers will stalk. Retrievers will fetch. Etc.
Terriers (of which, Pit Bulls are) of all sorts were bred to KILL other animals (rats, badgers, squirrels, other dogs, etc.) and it's next to impossible to train that sort of instinct out of a dog with thousands of years of breeding behind them. - pilotss, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12If these dogs are not bread to fight then why don't they use greyhounds or other dogs to fight. Having worked in a shelter I could show just as many dogs in the same condition. There is a reason you don't see chows in a fight ring.
- Neiby, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12I and my family have had several pit bulls over the years and they are just the BEST dogs. Very non-aggressive and very loving. My brother had a really big male that was a total baby and just loved people, especially kids. He wouldn't have hurt a fly and he wouldn't bite anyone, even when playing roughly. In fact, one time (unknown to us at the moment) a friend's toddler bit the tip of the dog's ear off--actually took a small chunk out!--and the dog did not bite back.
And you're telling me this is a dangerous breed? Absolute *****. They are amazing dogs. You couldn't ask for a better family pet, especially if you have kids. Believe me, we've owned a lot of other breeds, as well. Poodles and cocker spaniels are more aggressive than pit bulls. - bdonnellan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8I've worked in the news business for 20 years. At least 80% of the dog attack reports we receive from law enforcement are pit bulls, purebred or not. "That's because only the pit bull attacks get reported." Not true. We've actually done the research, looked through the police records, and again, pit bulls are overwhelmingly the breed with the most reported attacks. Not bites, but violent attacks of other animals or people. I frequently hear from pit bull advocates claiming we show bias against the breed. We report the facts. The bias comes from those who blindly support animals whose DNA was modified through breeding to be aggressive fighters. That's not a myth, it's a fact. People who fight dogs for fun are evil. People who take pictures of pit bulls snuggled up with children and infants are distorting the truth. They are also taking a risk with their children's' safety.
- Vitaliy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7American Bulldogs, Presa Canarios, Dogo Argentinos, Gull Terriers, Boston Terriers, Tosas, are all fighting breeds. In various Eastern European countries there is a preference for large common dogs to fight such as Rottweilers, Caucasian Ovcharkas, and other common larger dogs with protection and working origins. It's just that the United States adopted the smaller fighting terriers and Bulldogs from Europe where smaller and more agile dogs were preferred for a fight because they make the fights much longer and "entertaining" than larger Mastiff counterparts.
- cleric85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Impossible for me too watch. I'd rather watch an adult human suffer. At least we can fight back and know the difference. These poor ***** dogs are people's pawns.
- stigma15, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6"Dogs act how they are taught to act"
I would say that is a gross generalization. Dogs are animals that don't have the reasoning ability of highly-evolved primates such as us. They can be trained and disciplined, but they will not hesitate to act on instinct if they deem it necessary for survival. Can you even say that "kids act how they are taught to act"?
- Ninnux, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Although, to be fair to all parties, these dogs were bred for combat...many lines are...and all are descendants of wolves, which are extremely ferocious.
- pilotss, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7correct and due to this fighting they have over the years been bred for their aggressiveness. Just as geryhounds have been noticed for their speed and bred for it.
- StudsTurkel, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Where the ***** are you from? Walk-away? Walking-away involves turning your back. Thugs will just smash you in the back of the head, take your wallet and leave your body.
- TubaTechno, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7kind of like the other useless anecdotal evidence suggesting the opposite opinions?
- masterdbugger, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7It always seems that the general default is "It's the owners fault." It usually is. But there have been many news stories about pit bulls, rots, etc. Snapping for no reason, and the owners ALWAYS say, "She was like our baby, never would hurt a fly," and such. It's okay to own one in my opinion, just always be wary that it could snap.
- Otto, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Why would you be hiding a gun? If you have a CCW, then the idea is to use the thing to defend yourself. If somebody tries to attack you, you pull it out and shoot them.
Guns are for using, not for trying to scare people with. - sedo1800, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7that was so sad. people that fight dogs should ALL be shot. This is messed up beyond words. I just had to put my 1yo beagle down because she would bite... That right an aggressive snoopy. Pit Bulls are great dogs, but the people that fight them ***** up. I was thinking about adopting another dog and now I want a pit bull.
- Jazzillion, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6@pilotss...
These dogs are bred (not bread) to fight, that is the problem. The message is that if they were not bred to fight they would be less likely to develop an aggressive nature. Greyhounds are skinny quick agile dogs with narrow heads, they don't have muscular builds and thick skulls. Greyhounds can be bred to be aggressive just like anything else can be. - Ryohei, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Make sure you watch to the end it is not all bad. But it did bring a tear to my eye.
My first introduction to a pitbull was when a neighbor let his out of the car at the same time I got out. He ran right up to me, and wagged his tail. Shortly after that I had a new friend, Chino, and his owner wasn't so bad either. I have this dog to credit for introducing me to 3 of my best friends and 2 room mates, among many other things. Recently at I have him to thank for my own buddy Batou, he is the most docile dog I have ever met, he loves people and would never hurt him. You can even play very rough with him, get him to growl and snarl, and all bought offer your hand to him and he will not bite. I have been looking all over hell and I will post if I ever find but I have about 5 min of footage of my friend's 2 year old girl sitting in front of a dog food bowl with an 8 year old male pit, a 6 month old male pit, and a 4 year old boston terrier (the one most likely to nip or bite), and she feeds each of the a single piece of food one at a time and over and over again. Never even gets nipped. These are some of the best dogs in the world, until you have met one don't judge based on a media induced frenzy.
@vhauri Actually they are great dogs, I have had many friends with pits and children, even newborns. Many of my friends still bring their children to my house and I DO NOT put my dogs up or out for anyone. They have no problems wth my dogs and all the children have been taught how to tell the dogs down and back. I have even seen a child climb on a pitbull's back (not even the family's dog at that) pinch and bite, ears and flesh. The dog simple stood up, moved, and laid back down. - themastersb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Yeah. I'm going to have to say my cats have bitten me and caused me to bleed more than any dog has
- xenuxenuts, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Hold the owners accountable for any damage by the dog. If a person is killed, try the owner as if they had committed 2nd degree murder. If you don't want that risk, don't own the dog.
- Jazzillion, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Everything boils down to conditioning whether it is a Pit bull puppy, a bald eagle, or a human child. Violent nature breeds violent nature. The world needs a more positive and loving perception.
- dixonHill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Raising a dog to be "friendly" is not the point. Many dogs act friendly in their own homes, even around infants, etc., but turn vicious outside, primarily because they believe they need to protect their families.
Virtually any dog, regardless of breed, will behave properly both inside and outside of the home, if they are led by a strong pack leader, i.e. an owner who makes it clear that they are in charge, and that aggressive behaviour is not going to be tolerated.
The difference with Pit Bulls, and other powerful breeds, is simply the potential for serious consequences if they are not kept under control: they are much more powerful than the average dog, so they can do more damage. Owning a powerful breed, such as a Pit Bull, requires much more diligence on the part of the owner to understand canine pack mentality, and to remain in charge at all times.
Again, I strongly recommend dog owners regularly watch The Dog Whisperer to see how it should be done. (I know it sounds like I'm a shill for the National Geographic Channel, but really I'm not! I just like the show!) - Ninnux, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8bred =! bread
bread = food
I've seen a dog fight, and it was extremely depressing. Not so much for the violence, but for the people who enjoyed the fight. Same with ***** fights. Same with taiso (preying mantis) fights. - thentro, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6In MN, Rep. John Lesch is proposing to ban Akitas, Chows, Pitbulls, Rottweilers, and wolf-hybrids from the state. Of course, there is no mention of how to define those breads or why those are "bad" dogs while others are not. Sign the petition here to help stop this useless amount of suffering to dogs and dog owners!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/minnesotabreedban/
Or contact Mr. Lesch here:
http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/members/members.asp?district=66A - Laqrhead, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5I owned a dog that was part pitbull. He was also part rottweiler and boxer. All considered by many to be aggressive breeds. When my daughter was about a year old, she would sit on his head, pull his ear and poke him in the eye, and he didn't even flinch. He just sat that and took the abuse because he was so gentle (I didn't allow the eye poking, it just happened). He ran away once and we couldn't get him back from the pound because he was "aggressive" and they "euthanized" him. My daughter cried for years about how she missed him.
- cleric85, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4A dog knows the difference between someone tripping over them and being kicked.
- StudsTurkel, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Oh yea, a nightstick will really scare someone who fights dogs as a hobby. Get your conceal and carry permit and start protecting yourself and your family (the dog included.)
- Homunculiheaded, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5This is something I think a lot of people don't understand. I don't think pit bulls are mean dogs, but they are very, very powerful dogs (much more powerful than many varieties of dog larger than them). I don't believe the breed should be banned, but it should be regulated, just like other large powerful animals. Large cats(lynx and larger) can be very nice but because they're powerful one mistake and they can cause serious harm, so the species are regulated. Same with large snakes. All animals make mistakes, my little cat scratches me all the time, but if he was 10x as large I would probably have suffered serious injury. Just like all other larger/potentially dangerous animals, not just anybody should be able to own one. Regulation would help pitbulls and people.
- profOblivion, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"You can't ban a breed"
Unfortunately, you're wrong. Several areas in Canada and Europe, for example, have had bans in place for several years.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/03/01/pit-bull-ban050301.html - capiCrimm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5But that was love blood. Admit it. It felt good.
- mmazing, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4If raised properly ;D
- LonnyQ, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8i couldn't finish watching the video
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