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- badqat, on 10/24/2009, -3/+84While this focuses on California, there are other states that feature marijuana as their top cash crop, mine included.
Why we keep throwing billions away on the "war" against marijuana when we could be reaping billions in revenue from it is beyond me.
The dual effect of ending the "war on drugs" as well as tax revenues from the crop would be explosive, and I think, quite positive on not only the economy, but also in terms of social matters. - BillE3, on 10/24/2009, -3/+59The legislature can not figure out how to collect a tax on it while keeping in compliance with the federal prohibitions. When they solve that dilemma they will quickly enact the taxes.
- HeyyyJoe, on 10/25/2009, -4/+49Being illegal, its value is HIGHLY inflated; ounce for ounce, its worth almost as much as gold. If you found out you could grow gold, why wouldn't you?! At least if you're a lower class citizen who wants to pick up some easy cash; really easy cash. I shouldn't generalize growers as lower class people though, because I grow it too, and I come from a typical middle class family. Furthermore, I'm studying nuclear engineering. There are just too many people who are making WAY too much $$$ off of growing, and states aren't going to stand for this much longer. Legalization is absolutely inevitable; make some money now while you can!
http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/ - badqat, on 10/24/2009, -1/+31That, I believe, is the step that Obama and congress should cooperate on, and soon. End all federal prohibitions on marijuana, and allow the states to set their own policies. Those that embrace this simple plant will reap many rewards. And those that do not...they can look on in envy.
This plant has many more uses than simple medicinal or recreational properties. - Namakemono, on 10/25/2009, -0/+26So, how did that strap-on feel?
- NiftyG, on 10/25/2009, -4/+30The only reason pot is the number one cash crop is because growing it in large quantities is illegal, which inflates prices. If you fully legalize it, prices will drop.
- HeyyyJoe, on 10/25/2009, -2/+23I've just got to add more thing. Everyone is talking about legalizing marijuana, but ideally, we should be legalizing and studying "everything." I don't don't mean to spam or anything, but please consider the link I threw down below. Rick Strassman, M.D., wrote an extraordinary book titled "DMT: The Spirit Molecule," that dives into the results of his research with psychedelics, primarily dimethyltryptamine. Digg it if you're into the chemistry of our brains, because your brain is flooded with this mysterious chemical every night during REM sleep, as well as when you're born and die. Very interesting read.
http://digg.com/d3188SY - rocknog, on 10/25/2009, -1/+17If you have the ingredients, it takes like five minutes to make a hamburger, and yet there's still a market for McDonald's. If there's a market for something that fast and easy to make yourself (which is also of much greater quality than McDonald's *****), I guarantee there's a market for marijuana.
- isxrc, on 10/25/2009, -3/+18in truth the number of criminal incidents related to marijuana is far less than the number related to alcohol......it's about time they made some money out of the whole thing, if only to boost the failing economy......everybody smokes it......take advantage obama.......take advantage......
- BillE3, on 10/25/2009, -1/+16It makes good press, but it will not change how DEA and federal prosecutors work.
Until congress tells them state laws have precedence they will continue to prosecute. Catch 22. But it does make him look good. He likes to do that you know. - hatdrop, on 10/25/2009, -0/+14you also need to consider the people that do not buy because it is illegal. prices will drop but more people will purchase it as well.
- jstearns, on 10/25/2009, -4/+18old.
http://digg.com/people/Police_Chief_Gets_Pwned_by_ ... - dustincase, on 10/25/2009, -1/+14The police chief is only sticking to his guns. He sees it from his angle and it's hard to envision the truth when you only see life from side.
And the pro weed "guy" may be one of the single most important people in this fight. That dude has put in so much work for the push to legalize.
Seems somebody else is misinformed and they like to post the first thing that comes out of their mind. - bbr4nd0n, on 10/25/2009, -1/+13the argument that there is too much money involved, so the cartels will still traffic in illegal weed is *****. the legal producers will produce more cost effectively and will push the illegals (whose costs are higher) out of the market. there is no incentive for a legit company to get involved in trafficking harder drugs just as brewers don't have incentive currently to get involved in marijuana production. the arguments against legalization don't hold water, and everybody knows it. fear of the unknown is all that stands in the way. every time an elderly voter dies we get one vote closer to the tipping point.
- Nubli, on 10/25/2009, -2/+13My statement stands.
- altgeeky1, on 10/25/2009, -0/+9Not to nitpick, but that's not what he said exactly.
The difference is "scope": state laws do NOT trump federal laws, and that question could only be settled at the SCOTUS. Even if Obama clarified what he said and meant what you said (a change in the balance of power), it's certain the next president would reverse it.
The end result might be the same for this example, but the Federal government is always quick to assert jurisdiction, and very slow to yield it. - enantiodromia, on 10/25/2009, -0/+8and once it's legal to grow in your own home, garden supply stores and specialty hydroponics manufacturers will become the next Google or Costco.
- NightC, on 10/25/2009, -1/+8I wish they would just legalize and stop putting good people in jail, and let others make their money without the violent crime that comes with it being illegal. Alcohol is legal so wtf.
- HeyyyJoe, on 10/25/2009, -0/+7When it's legal, it isn't gonna matter. But that's exactly why I don't include any personal info anyways. I love web anonymity!
- dustincase, on 10/25/2009, -2/+8It's ridiculous. It's a numbers game across the board. Too many people stand to lose. Who the hell is really against it? I'd like to know where the money behind keeping it illegal is coming from...
Let's think long and hard about it, what happens if it's legalized? It'll become industrialized and corporate, turning it into a far less valuable product to be used in street sales. People would, at that point, be able to grow small amounts if they preferred cutting out even more middle men.
What happens if we do nothing? Nothing...
Drug cartels will no doubt keep operating. No matter how many you kill, there is always another broke, misled kid who wants hard cash/glory/live the gangster lifestyle whatever... The death tolls will stay the same regardless of how many people are locked up.
Imprison every member of the biggest drug rings out there and they will run their business from the inside or a new gang will take over with nobody else to keep the next guys who are tired of eating ***** at bay. The cycle WILL and always has continued.
What will happen to a LOT of the prisons (One of Americas biggest cash crops) if we legalize it and take a lot of people out. Go ahead and research prison economies. It's nationwide already. Most won't see it until we're all stuck.
Another topic, substance abuse. We have a great substance abuse problem. Why doesn't anyone see a big part of the problem with this is restriction? Or legal drinking age has proven to make kids want to drink more. Look at others countries with younger drinking ages. This is just like prohibition. You tell a human they can't have something and wave it in their face every day, they will want it even more.
Welcome to the land of everything you want "for a price"... America is full of consumers and this is PURELY a game of the wrong people losing money somewhere. That's the argument you don't hear. Our society is pretty much designed to thrive in chaos. The less the people realize they are in control of nothing, the more we thrive...
Make this LEGAL. People WILL smoke regardless. We have nothing to lose from legalizing it and we will continue to lose if we don't. - fmello, on 10/25/2009, -0/+6Gold is going for approx. $1100 per oz. Since there are 16 oz. in one pound that figure is actually $17,600 a pound.
- badqat, on 10/25/2009, -1/+7Convenience. Oh sure, there will be those that grow their own, indoors and outdoors. But there will also be those willing to pay for convenience and who won't grow it themselves.
- cheddaro, on 10/26/2009, -0/+6Pot prices will fall soon I'm guessing. At least here in Colorado where it's basically legalized. They are approving 600 new "patients" a day, with no medical records required. Everyone is growing weed. Some people out here are growing thousands of plants, legally.
- askantik, on 10/25/2009, -1/+7Couple things... legalizing industrial hemp is just as important, if not more so, than marijuana being legalized or even decriminalized. Hemp is an exceptional food, fiber, and resource for a million other things. This is a good point that isn't mentioned enough in debates about whether or not marijuana should be legalized.
Secondly, please stop talking about how marijuana is not bad at all compared to people abusing alcohol. It is certainly true that people do dumb ***** when they are alcoholics, but if you get my beer outlawed, I'm gonna be real upset. - Paranor01, on 10/25/2009, -0/+5had to digg you down for assuming all people using drugs are miserable. not to mention the stupid statement of "i want druggies out of jail to get drugged up". you are not pro legalization at heart, the way you put your statements tell us that.
"I'll tell you something no-one wants to hear. I had a good time on drugs!" - Bill Hicks, RIP - enantiodromia, on 10/25/2009, -0/+5the posers and burnouts will buy whatever they can get at the gas station or walmart while the people who enjoy quality will grow their own or buy from specialty boutiques, just like wine, cheese, cigars, and every other epicurean sub-culture.
- enantiodromia, on 10/25/2009, -0/+4i suppose being a drunk is cool tho
- Nubli, on 10/25/2009, -2/+6You're doing it wrong.
- Paranor01, on 10/25/2009, -0/+4"Might as well just throw the tasty buds into a fire."
I do, every day.
/* puff puff - pass to the left */
Sorry govsucks, but you're on the right, so no pass to you. - AngelBunny, on 10/26/2009, -0/+4It isn't about legalization as much as it is about regulation. When you have a prohibition there is no regulation. What is to stop the 16 year old from doing it? If you add regulation, not just deregulation, then you make the world a better place.
Regulation costs money for the most part. Prohibition does too. The argument is that prohibition costs less (or more) than regulation. With a non lethal substance like pot the argument is clear. However, with dangerous substances regulation will end up costing more than deregulation. Also, there is the argument that regulation will have to be so strict that addicts will still turn to the street regardless.
The argument is over economy (the news story) not really anything else. One step at a time. - feignNU, on 10/25/2009, -0/+3"your brain is flooded with this mysterious chemical every night during REM sleep, as well as when you're born and die. Very interesting read."
I agree that it is a fascinating read, one of my favorite books on the subject in fact, but let's not get hasty about the REM/birth/death claims. This is speculation on Dr. Strassman's part, and it does certainly seem reasonable, but there's not any real evidence for it yet. - dustincase, on 10/25/2009, -0/+3Yes, more intense.
In my opinion, you probably smoked weed and it made you think too much about what was about to go down. Weed can really make you feel like your on the spot and if your already not a champion in the sack, it would only make it worse.
And weed does sedate pain, even if it didn't work for you... - sunshinehiphop, on 10/25/2009, -2/+5Watched it for 7 minutes, then got "bandwidth exceeded" and no more video. Bummer, I had just lit up a joint. Now I'll surf Digg instead, sigh.
- daEvan, on 10/25/2009, -1/+4This news is not new to anybody who lets themselves become informed. The only reason that this isn't widespread knowledge is because there is too much money to be made for scammers in pot being illegal. Using it for economical gain is not the interest of the greedy investors in systems such as prisons and pharmaceuticals.
- Cyberdactyl, on 10/25/2009, -1/+4Home grown, closet and back yard growth, is an exploding and massive phenomenon.
I'm not sure how the 'marijuana industry' will evolve if it indeed is completely de-criminalized. - dustincase, on 10/25/2009, -1/+4Regaining your sexual performance?
Not that I'm like Fabio or anything, but when I smoke, I hit new levels with my chick in the sack. I personally feel it allows me to channel our senses better.
But your right... It doesn't kill you. - enantiodromia, on 10/25/2009, -1/+4"Have you heard of Freedom of Speech? No? Thanks to the liberals, we still have freedom of speech in America."
Fixed it for you. - NSResponder, on 10/26/2009, -1/+4"Why we keep throwing billions away on the "war" against marijuana when we could be reaping billions in revenue from it is beyond me. "
The war on drugs continues because it benefits politicians. Sucks for the rest of the people, though.
-jcr - enantiodromia, on 10/26/2009, -0/+3no. we should make people talk about this debate, like you are doing now. i have found a lot people suddenly care about marijuana the moment they think their beer might be in jeopardy.
- HeyyyJoe, on 10/25/2009, -0/+3I'm not expecting it to be the foundation for California's economy, but they're still gonna get a ***** of money from the deal!
Why wouldn't I take a vacation to California if they legalized it..? - ghatid, on 10/26/2009, -0/+3He wanted to let us know he's just another white guy into Asian girls.
- InactiveUser, on 10/25/2009, -1/+4What kind of a stupid country produces people who make statements like that?
- GregFD3S, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/2577654177_351 ...
- Namaha, on 10/26/2009, -1/+3In my area the most an ounce of good weed will cost is about $400, and I know of areas that get as low as $250-$300 an ounce. Hardly "almost."
- wackydelly, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2Silver Haze is the chrondiggity!
- Wakkyweed, on 10/25/2009, -3/+5I assume you are being sarcastic to make some sort of point. However, you can't treat dangerous and highly addictive drugs such as meth and heroin the same way you do a relatively harmless drug such as marijuana.
I agree that we should legalize heroin, meth, and all other drugs, but they should be tightly controlled and only distributed by doctors working in government clinics. Then we could take the revenue generated by those clinics and apply it directly to drug treatment centers. Essentially that means that drug addicts would be funding their own treatment, removing the burden of paying for incarceration and treatment from the average taxpayer.
I know that's not a "perfect" solution, but there is no perfect solution when it comes to addictive drugs. There is only harm reduction. - Wakkyweed, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2@ Headinawheel
Sorry, but you're wrong in this case. The government could manufacture both meth and heroin for pennies on the dollar when compared to the current illegal price. They could sell $100 street value of drugs for $5 and still make a profit. However, with that low of a profit margin it would no longer be worth the risk of jail time for the black market pushers. They would inevitably go out of business. - Paranor01, on 10/27/2009, -0/+2Well smoke up man! :D
- wackydelly, on 10/26/2009, -0/+2Why wait?
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