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- inactive, on 11/30/2008, -0/+73I'm long past high school, but I suspect the numbers are higher. At least some of these students must have decided not to incriminate themselves.
- ChLb, on 11/30/2008, -6/+71Amazing how the adults, the parents of this generation find excuses like blaming business or to much stress for their immoral kids: rather than blaming:
a. parents for not teaching their kids right from wrong
b. the kids for lying, cheating, and stealing - whoreable, on 12/01/2008, -8/+55I have a small penis.
- 8bitflu, on 12/01/2008, -4/+42Well, I can expect you to know this then:
I want a number 2 with Pepsi. - BuddyOne, on 11/30/2008, -14/+51If you had lived (like me) through the 60's with these parents, then you'd remember that ethics was the very thing they wanted to eliminate. They probably admire their kids for being so progressive...
Don't cheat...? That sounds suspiciously like a Christian idea. Hmmmmmmmmm. - inactive, on 12/01/2008, -1/+36Why isn't anyone blaming the parents of these children. Ethics and morality shoudl be taught in the home. Parents need to take more responsibility for their childrens' lives and teach them right and wrong.
Everyone nowadays has this unwarranted sense of entitlement that is slowly eroding the charactar of America as the bastion of goodness. - geddon, on 12/01/2008, -1/+33Welcome to the "All You Can Eat Buffet" of American Culture. Remember what your parents told you: "It's a dog eat dog world. If you're not in the lead, the view never changes." We've taught them to lie, cheat, and do whatever it takes to succeed. Did you really expect a different result?
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -3/+34Kids these days... *waves finger*
Now get off my lawn! - HappyMonk, on 12/01/2008, -2/+30lol, children know what things are. And the educational system is a joke and is treated as such. People want the kids to do things correctly, dont take shortcuts. but all around them people lying, cheating the system everyday and getting rich off it.
If you want to blame someone.... look in the mirror. - whoreable, on 12/01/2008, -2/+28This survey is skewed. The kids who lie cheat and steal the most weren't at school that day. They were cutting class and smoking weed. So it is actually much worse that they reported.
- Zalian, on 11/30/2008, -1/+25Anyone has anything to confess?
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -1/+22Maybe they lied on this survey too?
- o0joshua0o, on 12/01/2008, -1/+22I remember one time in school I stayed up all night making a super detailed cheat sheet for a test. I put a lot of thought into how to organize the information for maximum clarity and conciseness. The only problem was, when it came time to take the test I didn't even need it because all the content was still so fresh in my mind. Needless to say, I was really ticked off that I had put all that work into something that turned out to be useless.... : (
- sexybobo, on 12/01/2008, -0/+20Or lower. We were asked to do a survey like this in high school according to that i drank at least 5 or more times a week had 5 or more different sexual partners in the last week never bathed smoked and stole a car before. ( that is all i can remember)
As did most of my friends. When you have a survey like that among kids lots of them are going to make up ***** just because they think it is funny. - hootie233, on 12/01/2008, -10/+30I cheated on tests, lied to teachers, and stole the occasional poptart from the cafeteria. Im not a bad person.
- darkism, on 12/01/2008, -0/+18You inadvertently studied for the test and passed it legitimately. Congratulations.
- chrysrobyn, on 12/01/2008, -4/+21I lived up to every expectation. No matter the difficulty, if the teacher or professor treated me with respect and assumed I would act honestly, I did so completely and without exception. If the teacher or professor treated me like a criminal and like everyone cheated, it was his responsibility to catch them in the act, I would cheat without regard to the difficulty of the class, and I never got caught. In one class where the teacher had particularly low expectations, I was known to the students as the maker of the best crib sheets. Only one of my cohorts was caught and he didn't squeal.
Today, I'm employed with the same business for 9+ years. If there's something I don't know, I can either ask someone, look it up, or take it "offline" while I find the answer. School is there to give future adults a good background, a foundation of experiences, to teach how to learn, to teach how teamwork works (for good and bad), it's not there to act as a model for the real world. - sodade, on 12/01/2008, -0/+14Go figure: kids lie cheat and steal. They also litter. How the ***** do you expect them to be any different when our society provides the greatest rewards to those who lie, cheat, steal and litter.
- SpenderH, on 12/01/2008, -0/+14 I really don't care if Americans are apathetic.
- FasterGun, on 12/01/2008, -1/+15Funnier if you were a dude.
- Wargala, on 12/01/2008, -1/+14Not until the statute of limitations runs out.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -7/+19And yet we don't let gays marry. Ethical standards my ass.
- forcedfx, on 12/01/2008, -2/+14You want a warm apple pie with that? It's only a dollar more.
- Slade605, on 12/01/2008, -0/+12I looked in it, and it was angled just right so it wasn't me.
- mysticalone, on 12/01/2008, -2/+14I thought I was doing ninja training in high school. Guess all that stealing intel, killing folks in the bathroom and masterly disguising and lying to graduate was all for nothing. =(
- azhura, on 12/01/2008, -1/+12In high school and college, I worked collaboratively with my friends and fellow students on homework and tests with each of us taking sections to do and then discussing the whole thing when we were done to make sure that we understood what we were doing.
By standard definition that is cheating. But, this is a skill that I use at work all of the time. Hell, I'm expected to work that way with my coworkers to get stuff done.
So, anyone who is like, "Cheating is wrong, blah blah blah" needs to get a clue and look at what is expected in the real world. Your boss doesn't care how you get your work done - they mostly care that it is finished and on-time. - Soleanthia, on 12/01/2008, -0/+10I've been out of high school nearly 5 years now and I can say things like this have been going on for a long time, but now it's being brought to our attention. Cheating was made a little easier after some high schools in my area required those crazy priced graphing calculators in math classes, which allow you to type out everything on the main screen (granted, you'll lose it all once you have to enter a math problem). Yes, I've done it a couple of times. I've noticed pressure on the kids has been drastically increased to the point where sophomores are encouraged to start looking at colleges. So to me it's a mix of parents not paying attention/encouraging honest behavior and the pressure to succeed to get into a good school.
Wall of text over. ^_^ - BlackJackJester, on 12/01/2008, -0/+10I feel 36% lied about cheating on a test.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -5/+15Can you blame our children? I mean, look at our nations leadership. Our role models (sports etc.) and our parents.... It's "get ahead" "do whatever it takes" etc.... It's pathetic.
- Harabeck, on 12/01/2008, -0/+10History is not dumb. Understanding how we got here really gives a good picture of who we are as a society and offers perspective on important issues. Now, if your teachers are making you memorize dates, or all the rivers in Europe or something, that's another story. That stuff is completely worthless.
And I do agree that a class on learning techniques could help many students. - naslai, on 12/01/2008, -0/+9"We need to create classrooms where learning takes on more importance than having the right answer."
But sir! If taught this way the kids will actually be worth something in the workplace!! - amk29j, on 12/01/2008, -1/+10I used to write programs for my graphing calculators in high school and saved them in a way so that they won't delete if they made us clear our memory. I'd make the programs so easy.... insert variables and BAM, here are the answers. I still haven't learned how to factor but that's OK. I don't need to ever again. (I graduated in 2005)
- spookyttws, on 12/01/2008, -10/+19I'm just out of college now, and I can admit that I cheated a bunch in high school. Hell in my AP Stats class four of us took turns doing the homework each week, then the other 3 would copy it. Our teacher even knew about it. We may have gotten C's but I still got a 5 on the AP test. Cheating doesn't mean you're dumb or a bad person, it mean's you''re lazy. At least I am.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -3/+12protip: get with midgets
- RobotBuddha, on 12/01/2008, -0/+8What, the generation that's become synonymous with selling out their beliefs for a "think of the children" panic that had them clutching at the very things they railed against in their youth?
- dave122, on 12/01/2008, -4/+12define a "good person" - and please leave out your judeo-christian morality while you're at it.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -3/+10Last time I checked everyone is a greedy ***** when the chips are down. This simply reaffirms that.
- fmoliveira, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7adults make ***** up too, this is why i don't trust polls
- CedEx, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7So basically what you're saying is that you were whoring yourself?
- KevekKerinth, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7You can't just teach ethics and morality in one part of a kid's life. If they feel they need to be ethical and moral at home but not at school or with friends than they'll do just that. And get better at lying to hide the differences in their behavior.
That doesn't mean that religion or anything should be taught at school or something - that's a pretty shallow resolution to the problem, one doesn't need religion to be ethical or moral, only a few short-sighted individuals believe that.
But it seems, to me at least, a greater emphasis should be placed on discovery, invention, and unique ideas rather than getting the right answer all of the time. Of course it is important a child understands that 2 + 2 equates to 4, but it's also important to see things in new ways and attempt to do it on their own. Right now we just emphasize things like a 4.0 GPA, or getting into one of the Ivy League schools (or comparable ones) or the 2400 SATs (1600 when people older than 19 took them, whatever). Our focus is wrong, imho, and it'll take a lot more than some "ethics committees" in some school systems to fix it. - loneraven, on 11/30/2008, -5/+12Meh... I'm almost sure the results should be higher. What's worse, is this article is trying to suggest that kids tendency to lie/steal/cheat will cause them to do the same in their grown up lives.
I fully admit, I've cheated in high school (several times... not because I had to, but because it was easy to do in the given circumstances), I've stolen stuff from a Walmart or something (item was less than $20). I don't do any of that anymore now that I've matured and grown up, and I would venture to say only a very small minority of people retain that type of behavior.
For the record though, I never cheated on a college exam. - MattB123, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7I was a frequently copied student and did the same stuff to people. They want answers provided by someone else they can have them. If they want the right answers they should learn the material.
Of course I used to share my Physics homework with the cute girl across the row. I guess my ethics only went so far. - Oatlord, on 12/01/2008, -3/+10Damn I don't have time to read all of that. Can I just get the cliff notes from someone???
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7I remember on my middle school EOG tests the kid across from me had the same purple answer sheet and was trying to see my answers from the very beginning. So on the test form I would circle the wrong answer blatantly (or at least the one I wasn't going to pick) and then I would bubble in the correct one on my answer sheet that I kept out of view under the test.
I'm pretty sure he had to do 7th grade over again. - oldhick, on 12/01/2008, -4/+11Why aren't you a bad person? You certainly don't sound like a "good" person.
- mauriziopetrone, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7This reminds me of the South Park episode #1205 (Eek, A Penis!), where Cartman teaches a class of ghetto guys how to cheat "as the white does".
LOL - avidlinuxuser, on 12/01/2008, -0/+6I'm pretty sure this is not a new thing. My grandparents would admit they cheated on some assignment. In fact, I'm going to say at least 36% of those who answered the cheating on a test/assignment question lied. There may be varying reasons but pretty much everyone has cheated. Plagiarism has existed for a long long time.
As far as stealing goes, it seems that as far as back as the 1920s teenagers and young adults were committing petty theft. It's probably holds true going many years into the past. - RobotBuddha, on 12/01/2008, -1/+7Why would you even need to cheat in high school? I literally slept through the majority of some subjects and still managed to maintain a B in them.
- oldhick, on 12/01/2008, -7/+13No it means you lack ethics. This is truly sad that people are justifying cheating. Unbelievable. Seriously....
- d03boy, on 12/01/2008, -2/+8When tests start resembling a real-life scenario, I'll be glad to participate "fairly". Until then, I'll have to sneak my resources in.
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