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- inactive, on 07/29/2008, -2/+57I live in Kosova. And you know what's funny? Real American police officers have the right here to put anybody for literally no reason for up to 5 years into jail, personal suspicion is enough. And jail here is much worse than in America... As a matter of fact I know personally someone who was for 1 year in jail and an other year under strict house arrest for being part of an anti UN protest,unfortunately for him they had photographed him. The guy was 18 years old back then, he couldn't even finish gymnasium, there were only 2 more months to go... what a shame.
As far as I know it works the same way in pretty much every country with this high American military influence. - notwizt, on 07/29/2008, -0/+53I don't live in the US so I'm not sure how much of this applies worldwide, but really only one point here is needed to convince anybody; It can not, in any circumstances what so ever, help you. It can only make you a potential suspect or worse, but it cannot work in your advantage.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -3/+52Meet the real American justice system. Not the one they show you on TV. Cops with an attittude. Overzealous prosecutors. Judges who do whatever the hell they want in their court. Exorbitant lawyers fees. Plea bargains.
Guilty until proven innocent pretty much sums it up. The best legal system money can buy. - inactive, on 07/29/2008, -10/+57The time to talk to a police officer is when you have him on the witmness stand. I have had a lot of fun making them look like fools.
One time a cop wrote the wrong date on a ticket and didn't catch the mistake and after I got him to say under oath that I was speeding on the day written on the ticket and had him state that the ticket had not been altered and he was sure that the events transpired exactly as written I produced a witness that proved I was in another place at that time and not driving.
He tried to come up with a rebuttal that only left one question"You knew how fast I was going but didn't know what day it was?"
I still laugh when I think of the look on his face. - Gonasadude, on 07/30/2008, -0/+35Holy ***** he talked faster than my girlfriend.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -4/+29You have a right to remain silent.
Use it dumbass. - humanerror, on 07/29/2008, -0/+25This is such good advice. I recently had cause to wish I had followed it, except I'm in Japan and I'm embarassed to admit I have no idea what the rules are here.
- mrtrevin, on 07/30/2008, -1/+24It cannot be stressed enough that cops are not lawyers. Their knowledge of the law comes from a few weeks of training....
- NiftySwifty, on 07/30/2008, -2/+23No, under his logic you should never talk to a cop when being questioned about a crime--whether you're innocent or not, talking to the cop without a lawyers advice first cannot possibly help the situation, no matter what you say.
Considering the title of the article is "never talk to the cops about a *crime*" it seems pretty clear what he meant. In any case, there's no reason to call him an idiot because *you* didn't understand this, you idiot. - matthewinDRO, on 07/30/2008, -0/+18Aggravating the situation are those obnoxious tv commentators (like that snarling pit bull blond woman on CNN) who continuously beat into the public that staying silent = guilty.
- volz0r, on 07/30/2008, -0/+15Ironically enough, these days it seems as though American citizens speak to the police to prove their innocence far more often than to hide their guilt.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+15Quite frankly, no. I've heard stories about people who got into jail for standing for too long in front of a police car. And protesting against the decentralization of Kosova, the cantonization of the Balkan and the further military colonization of Albanian, Serbian and Bulgarian territories is a huge issue, or at least it will be for the whole world in 2012-2013. The few people (max 10000, normally it's about 500) who actually have the guts to go out and express their thoughts are always and officially regarded by the UN and EU (now EULEX in Kosova) as fundamental extremists, no matter what the heck they were actually protesting about.
You must know, I personally know quite a lot of people how work for the media, police, political parties, big companies, and huge organizations like the UN and EU. And I can tell you, EVERYTHING is controlled. Constitutions of states are planed and written by EU/UN, the entire police and juridical system is controlled by the EU/UN, ALL news that get televised and at lest 80% of the news that get printed in newspapers are first viewed by EU/UN organs , all those different mafias (Italian, French, Bulgarian, Serbian, Greece and Swiss) are in some way associated with most of the big employers and the EU/UN.
They can do whatever the ***** they want, 1984 is very real for us. And is somebody gets photographed and identified at those protests...oh boy... - itspuddingtime, on 07/30/2008, -0/+11wait you mean Law and Order has been lying to me all this time to make things more dramatic?
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+10No, you couldn't get into any school without a UN approval or some kind of "official" document back then, today it's the same *****, the EU (EULEX) is doing this job in the exact same way now.
- terajoule, on 07/30/2008, -2/+11Isn't this common knowledge by now? Your worst enemy is your mouth. Don't incriminate yourself!
- belowir, on 07/30/2008, -0/+9is there a transcript?
- lysdexic, on 07/30/2008, -0/+9It's intimidating when you're in police custody. Jail is not a fun place to be, even for one night while your lawyer, friends, or family are arranging bail. The desire to be out of the situation combined with a general irrationality due to being in that situation can lead otherwise smart people to make bad choices and incriminate themselves.
While this may be obvious to everyone sitting safely behind their computers, unless you've been in the situation, you can't know how your emotions will be playing on you. Videos like this are a great reminder that, in America, we do have the right to remain silent and it may just give someone the mental boost they need to resist incriminating themselves. Remember, guilt and innocence are decided in the courtroom, not by the police. Say nothing without your lawyer present and let your lawyer decide on a defense strategy. - sysop073, on 07/30/2008, -0/+9If only Digg commenters would exercise that right more often
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -3/+12"All he needed was one other officer to testify they heard this at this specific date on the radio..."
Hearsay. Non-admissible in court.
Now, if they had a *recording* of the officer calling in the ticket, *that* would be admissible. - orangefly, on 07/30/2008, -1/+9that's exactly right....i had a friend that got in trouble all the time growing up, but because his parents had money he always got out of it while other friends weren't so lucky....not that i wanted to see him go to jail, but it pissed me off....that and my father was a detective in our small town....i didn't take advantage of it. but a lot of other cops kids did....our law system is who you know or how much money you have....
- shadowspawn, on 07/30/2008, -2/+10I like how the cop states he doesn't try to put innocent people in jail. I feel secure that cops are ones to determine who's innocent and who's not and who goes to court and who doesn't.
This 2nd video exemplifies that cops have a power trip.
That's what they are, that's what they do.
If you value your freedom, *never* talk to the cops. *Ever*. Spread the word, folks. - ubuwalker31, on 07/30/2008, -1/+8@textpundit & whorunbartertwn:
Epic fail: Hearsay is an oral or written statement, other than one made by the person testifying, offered into evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.
Pittance's example is not hearsay. What the officer is saying over the radio isn't what is trying to be proven. It is the fact that the officer made a radio call at an exact time and date and requested data on license plate XYZ 123.
Even if what the officer said over the radio was hearsay, it could be exempted under an exception to the hearsay rule; namely, the public records and reports exception if the call was recorded. Or, most likely, the "present sense impression" exception which are statements describing or explaining an event or condition made while the declarant was perceiving the event or condition, or immediately thereafter.
Lesson: Know what you are talking about before spouting off about legal rules and procedures.
Lesson 2: The reason why you get off on a "technicality" if the date or location is wrong is because the ticket is a very special piece of paper which gives you notice of your bad behavior. Its called due process. - xkorbin, on 07/30/2008, -1/+8Each point of evidence in a case.. Guilty until proven innocent.
- dvddesign, on 07/30/2008, -1/+8There's a blog on it somewhere out there. Basically, don't get arrested. If you're not native, your chances of getting deported all rest in the hands of if they want to press charges against you.
From what I remember, getting arrested in Japan means you go to jail for about a month before you get any serious face time with an attorney. And you're going to love this part. Japan has one of the worst human rights records for prisons. Yay...
http://asiapacific.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAS ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Japan
And I like Japan. Just keep your nose clean and you should be fine.
Also, if anything happens to you, personally, expect little help. A friend of mine had his $500 bike stolen outside his office one day and the police did nothing to help. - tyboulder, on 07/30/2008, -3/+10If you have time watch the entire video it's unbelievable. The assistant DA is absolutely ruthless. The tricks and deception he uses to coerce words out of a possible suspect (words that'll be chopped up and used out of context in court) should be illegal. He basically plays judge, jury and executioner. But, at the end he reassures the class that he tries not to put innocent people in jail. Glad to know it all rests on your judgment **** for brains.
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+7 Yes, well what do you expect from the World police?
- mllawso, on 07/30/2008, -3/+9Speeding tickets exist to generate revenue, not protect the public
- Rainemaker, on 07/30/2008, -0/+6You'd be surprised. I cannot believe what some of my clients have told the police before they come see me. It's maddening.
- Pittance, on 07/30/2008, -14/+20So you go away with a crime because he wrote down the wrong date after working 12 hour days all week. Not saying he shouldn't double check his paperwork, but that isn't any reason to gloat. All he needed was one other officer to testify they heard this at this specific date on the radio and that the cop wrote the wrong date and presto, you are done.
- Elderon, on 07/30/2008, -2/+7Then on the way home you get pulled over for a broken light. Whats that? you don't have a light out? *whack* ok, so you have a light out. Do you have drugs? I think I smell drugs. Step out of the car......
Hope none of these cops you make fun of carry a grudge. - Luke1h7, on 07/30/2008, -1/+6In fact places like Detroit are where people need to heed this advice the most I'd imagine. Because of the high unsolved murder rate I bet people are more susceptible to a false conviction based on some of the things this guy goes over.
- ramunenke, on 07/30/2008, -0/+5yeah, i guarantee you dont want to talk to the police about that crime without a lawyer present. Unless you have a willing officer in mind
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -0/+5 Don't talk...get a lawyer...don't talk....get a lawyer....don't talk....get a lawyer!!
- Rainemaker, on 07/30/2008, -5/+9Got Freedom?
Thank a defense lawyer. - inactive, on 07/30/2008, -1/+5I lived in Japan for a summer - and we were informed upon arrival (I was apart of an exchange program for American kids to Japanese families) that every town we go to, we should check in with the local police station, tell them how long we're staying and who we'll be with. Reason why? We're foreigners, and outside of the larger cities, (since we stayed in lots of smaller towns along the coast) - the "older" generations of Japanese (especially men) don't take kindly to foreigners, and most definitely dislike Americans. Any small infraction and they could have sent us home packing.
Having seen lots of different police forces throughout the world, I can say that in my experience, the nicest and most respectful HAD to be those from the UK. And I'm sure I'll get dugg down to oblivion for saying this, but most American police officers I've come into contact with are very close to being just as respectful (albeit a bit more intrusive). - wefarrell, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6Hey inthenameofmine, you seem like a pretty cool guy. What is your full name and residence, I'd like to know so we can hang out some time, not because I'm a police officer in Kosovo.
- JoshReflek, on 07/30/2008, -1/+5@Memper:
"man up and admit you broke the law"
Never do this.
Go watch the vids again, you missed it. - tomz17, on 07/30/2008, -2/+6All you have to do is watch a few episodes of Law and Order to see why it's NEVER to your advantage to talk to the cops alone...
the FIRST words out of your mouth should be :
Am I under arrest? Can I leave?
If they say No, then leave...
If they say Yes, ask them "what are the charges", ask for a lawyer, and then STFU. - Anarkist, on 07/30/2008, -0/+4Dugg for being a great watch. Thanks for submitting it!
- k4rm4, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3All people ever do when they speak to a cop is incriminate themselves.
There is nothing you can say to a cop to "un"criminate yourself.
The only example where this may not apply is where you know you were speeding and you need to kiss ass, then do what it takes. - hepcat, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3the vids were long, but a good watch. if you only watch one, watch the second with the cop.
- republicker, on 07/30/2008, -2/+5I did it!!!!!
- Waltezmo, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3He doesn't mind getting paid overtime to do it either.
- JoshReflek, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3Sarcasmooo: you seem to have hate for that particular law school, and a poor grasp of the entire topic at hand.
It's difficult to take what you say seriously, when you immediately dismiss 90% of the content without consuming it. - SilverBack101, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3It's interesting that this type of thinking isn't really new. In many places people who have seen the crime or know who did it won't tell the cops even if they want to because of fear of retaliation from the people actually did the crime like in the gang infested parts of cities. However, now people no matter from where have to watch their own backs from getting ***** up because of the overzealous attitude of cops nowadays. It's sad when you have to fear the people who are supposed to help protect your rights and the rights instilled in the constitution for every citizen.
- j3ff86, on 07/30/2008, -2/+5Did he get to finish gymnasium when they let him out??
- cheesejaguar, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3"Because Pat Robertson founded the school that this professor teachers at, everything he says must be a lie and I will not listen to it."
Superb logic. Go ahead, speak to the cops. - publiclurker, on 07/30/2008, -0/+3More likely, they'd get assigned to a desk job for awhile until it all blew over. Check out the recent article about the cop attacking the bike rider in New York for a glimpse of the real world.
- ritbitsly, on 07/30/2008, -1/+3I just found it ironic that speaking after the professor the cop barely held his own...talking about what he did for a living...and he kept on repeating that most people are stupid...and all i kept thinking was... this guys seems really stupid...
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -1/+3i take it that you don't smoke or sniff in your apt?
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