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- louiebaur, on 07/06/2008, -3/+29Yea if you are guilty you should be punished for sure!
- inactive, on 07/06/2008, -2/+27No. Rehabilitation or not. If you commit a heinous, awful act...you should be punished. As long as it can be proven though.
- inactive, on 07/06/2008, -3/+26My simple belief is this. Regardles if any of these Nazis get deported or not, Hell will have a special place that burns even hotter for these "people."
- icantseeyou, on 07/06/2008, -12/+35As a Jew my first instinct is the burn them at the stake.
As a human my first instinct is to leave them alone - too much time has passed and we are wasting resources. Are we going to go after the middle east people for the next 50 years looking for the worst ones? - daonlyfreez, on 07/06/2008, -2/+22Ofcourse they should be punished.
Remember that a lot of Nazis were able to flee/hide. Also remember that a lot of people who atleast worked with the Nazis were not really punished either, the Allies needed a new bureaucracy to deal with the aftermath, and they mostly took those that already worked in the system (that worked so "well"). They did the same thing after the wall fell with the East-German bureaucrats. I can understand you need some sort of system, but there was never no real "clensing" done, after both events. Only the heads roll, the hydra is allowed to continue functioning.
Same reason why I can understand the outrage of the man who ripped the head off the Hitler wax-figure. There are laws in Germany forbidding Nazi-worshipping symbols, yet they allow a _commercial_ entity to use such a blatant idol.
You can and must talk about Hitler and - more importantly - all those that went along, you must make art, create movies etcet., but you should not use it in this way, plainly "for amusement", as a "footnote", next to the movie stars and other unimportant persons portrayed. If you one the one hand forbid so much about the Nazi-period, don't let businesses on the other hand use this ultimate symbol as they see fit.
So, if you can find a proven Nazi-criminal, no matter how old, no matter how long ago, he/she should still be punished to the fullest extent. - inactive, on 07/06/2008, -2/+22There is genocidal killing going on right now. What is important is that people contemplating participation in it should know that they will have to look over their shoulders for 60 years if they do it. They must know that the long hand of justice can reach out and grab them at any time in their lives, no matter how much time has elapsed since their genocidal acts. Whether these old Nazi murderers are feeble or ill or senile is of no consequence. Did they care about the health status of their victims?
- ventsi, on 07/06/2008, -3/+22i think they have to pay for what they have done
- WordsnCollision, on 07/06/2008, -4/+22What should also be take into account is how these people have spent the intervening years since the war. Have they been productive members of society, and if so, does that count for anything? If not, the entire concept of rehabilitation must be called into question.
- inactive, on 07/06/2008, -5/+19look at them, is it really worth the cost of a trial ? even if they are guilty most will never live long enough for sentancing
- Villagemom, on 07/06/2008, -2/+16Not getting away with it, even now, may be the only thing to bring them to repentance.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -3/+16They did not care who they were torturing then - so we should not care who we are getting after now -
- GhostPanther, on 07/07/2008, -3/+15War crimes and genocide are the highest crimes mankind can commit. They must always be prosecuted.
- schmerl, on 07/07/2008, -3/+15There should be no mercy for these guys. They are murderers! There is no statute of limitations for murder. How would you feel if your mother was murdered and then 60 years later the murderer was found? Would you say "its been a while, its fine, let him go"? NO! You would want that person brought to justice and that is exactly what should happen here, plain and simple.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -5/+17Hopefully we will not have to wait so long to see Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc prosecuted for their war crimes.
- MillionsLivio, on 07/07/2008, -2/+12Seems a bit ridiculous that so many people want punishment for the sake of punishment alone. It really depends on what exactly they did, the circumstances of it, how they spent their time since then, and who they are today. To punish someone who deeply regrets what they did is entirely in vain. I suggest watching the BBC documentary "A Warning From History", many former Nazis talk about what they did and how they feel about it so many years later and it brings a whole new light on the issue. I dislike the demonization of the Nazis, they are people, they are humans, and calling them monsters completely contradicts the lessons that they should have taught us: what we, mere humans are capable of. If they have moved on, we should move on as well. People can change and they can regret their actions, we're all human.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -3/+13There is no statute of limitations on War Crimes as far as I know. These nazi pieces of filth should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, which hopefully ends with them swinging from the end of a rope...
- lardoandkeg, on 07/07/2008, -1/+11no.
- dtele, on 07/07/2008, -1/+11Justice should have no time limits !
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -2/+12While I certainly have sympathy for their families, as a Jew who lost ancestors in the Holocaust, I honestly find it difficult to find "humanity" in my heart for those whose actions were subhuman. They were not animals. They were human beings blessed with the gift of thought and reason. They chose to use that gift to act like animals. As much as I would like to, I can not forgive that and believe they deserve no less than they dished out.
- geekymetalhead, on 07/07/2008, -3/+11We're not just talking about passage of time here. These people were following orders. Sure, they could have disobeyed and not done anything, but punishment would have been terrible for them. Prosecute the leaders, the commanders that were giving the orders. All of these people seem to be law abiding, civil citizens, who are in the last stage of their life. I'm sure that they're haunted by what they were ordered to do, so just leave them be. They haven't hurt anyone since they were ordered to.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -3/+11Leave them alone... It was worth it to go after them 50 years ago. Now, they're just a bunch of old farts that are trying to live a quiet life. They know what they've done, they've lived into their 80s knowing what they've done. I'm sure as humans, even the worst one feels guilt about what happened. Leave them alone, let them die.
- mordea, on 07/07/2008, -1/+9http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex-Nazi_Party_members ...
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -2/+9wow... thanks for this post.
- monsieurginger, on 07/06/2008, -1/+8life in prison eating crappy food
- Lucas123, on 07/07/2008, -5/+12Someone should name a band after that headline.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8Off topic, but I have 10 extra tickets for the Robbie Knievel event at 'The Swamp' in
Gainesville Florida this weekend if anybody wants them.
He's going to try to jump 500 Obama supporters with a bulldozer. - ColonelTribune, on 07/07/2008, -2/+8I wonder what the statute of limitations is for crimes against humanity.
- JoJoGirl, on 07/07/2008, -1/+7thanks for sharing
- TheEnoculator, on 02/17/2009, -1/+7As long as the criminal is still alive, he or she needs to pay for vicious crimes, regardless of time passed.
I do agree with one comment above that most of these people were following orders. There should have some sort of charge against them for not fighting for those who can't fight for themselves ("A Few Good Men" anyone?), but the death penalty? Those should be reserved for the leaders who gave out orders. - eryximachus, on 07/07/2008, -0/+5bury this blog spam, it is nothing more than unprofessional regurgitation of mainstream news stories.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -3/+8I never committed mass murder.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5Not revenge. JUSTICE!
- monsterette, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5...good read...
- dsoleil, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5358 diggs and still not popular. WTF?
- monsterette, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5....very thought provoking...good read!
- JerichoSam, on 07/07/2008, -1/+5They shouldn't be off the hook just because time has passed. It's a shame to drag their families into it, but the US should deport these criminals.
- ironeus, on 08/01/2008, -1/+5Too much time has not past. Psychologically we perceive a "frail old man" on trial but you must remember the younger and healthier version of his mid 20s self. His age or the fact that he was living in hiding for part of his life does not justify a free ticket out of our justice system.
- AmyVernon, on 07/06/2008, -4/+8i agree. i tend to think the fact that they've had to spend the last 60+ years basically in hiding has been a form of punishment. perhaps not fully fitting the crime, but what would, anyway?
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -6/+9I don't care if they're old or not. Revenge is sweet.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -2/+5You have to make an example of them so no one ever does this type of ***** again. If people know that even 50 years after they do crimes like this that they will still be dragged away to prison as old men/women, the next group will be less inclined to do this and think they can get away with it.
- doctechnical, on 07/06/2008, -2/+5Another thing to take into account is that these people have raised families. How many of you would like you have grown up with everybody talking about your grandpa the Nazi?
- user500, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4And these aren't the worst ones and all I've seen so far is there guilty by association. It would be the same as prosecuting the solders who served in Iraq 60 years in the future for things they may have done.
- sooty, on 07/07/2008, -3/+6no - we will be going after the worst of you Americans.
- eryximachus, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3As a Palestinian who has not only lost family but lost my ancestral homeland, I think it is far more important to punish those responsible for crimes currently being committed.
I would be careful with your brand of justice. You may not like where it leads. - ProfessorSYM, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3Let's all feel sorry for the poor old Nazis.
Boo ***** hoo. - cheez124, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4hmmm, they are nazis, but really really old, does evil dissipate with time?
- amitlu, on 07/07/2008, -1/+4I tend to err on the side of forgiveness, but the holocaust is one of those special cases where there's really no defense for what these people in the article did. They weren't enlisted German soldiers, they were members of the SS, the branch of the military that came up with the Final Solution. The "I didn't know" response doesn't really hold water in this case, because they surely did. Even if they believe they didn't know, my suspicion is they've just repressed the memory. I say let the trial proceed.
- Ricky81682, on 07/06/2008, -0/+3The trial for most of them will be punishment enough. Lock them up without bail during the hearings. Besides, most would die with appeals and other stalling anyway.
- inactive, on 07/07/2008, -0/+3i don't know, headshots?
- ProfessorSYM, on 07/07/2008, -0/+2Oh yeah, I feel so sorry for them that the "punishment would have been terrible for them" if they disobeyed their orders.
Obeying unlawful "orders" is still breaking the law. -
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