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Everything I Know About Women . . .

women.timesonline.co.uk — As a single man in my mid-thirties, I ’ve spent 20 years trying to understand women, with mixed results. It wasn’t until six months ago, however, that I was given a clear insight into how the female mind works. It came in the form of Lou-Lou, my two-year-old niece.

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  • pentupentropy, on 04/25/2008, -10/+197Married man in my early thirties, married almost 10 years. Everything I know about women is that
    1) They are emotional egg shells. All of them. Overachieving women are the worst, along with the prettiest chicks you meet. They have egos more fragile than most men I know.
    2) Life sucks without them, so I try to keep them happy - them being my wife and two daughters.
    3) That's it. In 30+ years, that's all I've learned. They're more complex than string theory.
    • vic42482, on 04/25/2008, -7/+24They also go crazy for "cute" little things: http://thermalreaction.blogspot.com/2008/04/stupid ...
    • Silentnite85, on 04/25/2008, -4/+100From watching porn I've learned that:
      1) They will always be expecting a repairman(s)
      2) They are ok with anything suggested
      3) One cup is more then enough
      4) They don't mind cleaning up
      5) They're all bi.

      But for real, the only things I've figured out is that I have no Idea what she's thinking unless she breaks it down for me and that they like the idea of an Adventure. Hence why they go for the douchebags, they subliminally want the promise of some grand adventure, and the rough types are more likely to deliver. Granted maybe an adventure to the hospital, but the promise is there.
    • Steinr, on 04/25/2008, -1/+7I am in the same bracket as you and could not agree more, it takes less effort to keep them happy than reconciling when they are not. I could not agree more.
    • TubaTechno, on 04/25/2008, -3/+624) They EXPECT you to read their mind. Period. And if you don't , they get upset with you and most likely won't tell you that they're upset with you, but *somehow* you already know...
      • Schrodinger2, on 04/25/2008, -0/+20That is the truest thing I've read all day. Countless times I've dealt with my arms crossed, angry-faced girlfriend telling me there's "nothing" wrong because I guess I'm supposed to consult miss cleo first and know what's wrong with her before I start talking to her..
      • yacks, on 04/25/2008, -0/+8"If you really love me, you'll b able to read my mind.."
      • ParanoydAndroid, on 04/26/2008, -0/+3The important thing to do is set the tone of the relationship when they start trying that crap. My last boyfriend (I don't like the stereotype that gay dudes are chicks, but this one basically was) tried the whole, "I'm not pissed but really I am and you have to figure it out" thing on me for the first time. I asked him what was wrong _once_ and told him if there was anything I did wrong, or anything I could help him with I would be glad to, and that I desired to wholeheartedly go over any current issues. He did the pouting thing and said no. I just said, "I don't do that psychic *****" and got on the computer.

        Set the tone early, and they learn real fast that you love them and will be glad to help, but they have to meet half way. I never had a problem after that.
    • SavageBlackCat, on 04/25/2008, -10/+6Have a 6+ figure job.
      • DesiGUY, on 04/25/2008, -3/+2I've a six-figure job & i still agree with pentupentropy & Silentnite85.
        Irrational, and lil bit complex.
        • michael43, on 04/25/2008, -3/+2In other words, you can't get laid for a hundred thousand dollars.
    • buddyw, on 04/25/2008, -3/+13"They're more complex than string theory."

      I think you meant: They're more irrational than string theory.
    • Schweppes7T4, on 04/25/2008, -1/+22hi i'm from the internet... what is this "woman" you speak of?
    • bobjrn2, on 04/25/2008, -2/+16I disagree with that article, because obviously this guy still doesn't understand women. The ignoring part was good, the rest blew hard. Now I can't ever claim to know everything about women (mostly because they dont even know what they want), but if I had a list it would go like this.

      1) Ignore them (like mentioned)
      2) Never be jealous
      3) Always have a plan
      4) Take control
      5) Be adventurous
      6) Always be talking
      7) Never be depressing or pitied
      • sugarhooker, on 04/25/2008, -4/+2Great list. (--a woman)
      • betterth, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3Good list. Many girls like an experienced guy, or at least someone who knows what's going on. That would sort of fall under "Always have a plan".

        Also, I would add: "8) Be Genuinely Spontaneous". It can be difficult and annoying to do, but girls truly appreciate a guy who can genuinely surprise her."
      • xsilence, on 04/28/2008, -0/+0Agreed, it seems i keep learning from the relationships i get into. It is very difficult to not be jealous, or depressed, however a evil necessary. I am a manic-depressant therefor i have the utmost problem with this. Also as I've been told before never be the "Wuss Guy" women hate having their ass kissed.

        My last relationship ended due to the fact i have no car, or license, so i was unable to be spontaneous or adventurous with her. She told me and i do agree our relationship was boring. The only excitement we had of our relationship was the sex. God do i miss that. =/ Also i became jealous after our breakup as well as depressed. I knew what i was doing was going to end us for good with no chance of the future, but i couldn't help it.

        I've also taken this into consideration. We (Geeks, nerds, coders, hackers, etc) know how to think logically, and outside of the box. However with women being so irrational, and having so many emotions we do not know how to deal with that in a logical sense. For example it would seem logical to me if i bought her flowers, always complimented her, and tried to make her happy being the nice guy, that she would in turn love me. However this is never the case, this comes back to the "Wuss Guy" and "Kissing their ass." This is another example. This women we'll call Amber, and for sake of theory we'll say she's a Brazilian supermodel. Amber goes out in public, and notices every guy drooling over her, she knows she's beautiful, and hears it all day long. Now why would Amber be more attracted to a guy that did not come up to her and say "OMG you're so beautiful" , because Amber is not used to it. She is caught off guard. Amber knows she could have any guy she wanted, if she's ignored, and a guy did not show her the time of day it would only make sense that she would be more attracted to him. The grass is greener on the other side.
    • altinnovation, on 04/25/2008, -3/+6So, I should ignore them, yet "always be talking" ? I should also NEVER be depressed or pitied? Because life is always so great? I should also be adventurous, yet always have a plan. That's not very adventurous. What a great list for a disillutional individual that lives his life by a list. F for fail.
    • mrgreenjeans, on 04/25/2008, -0/+361)Don't ever get her wet.
      2) Keep her away from bright light.
      3) And the most important thing, the one thing you must never forget: no matter how much she cries, no matter how much she begs . . . never, never feed her after midnight.
      • hobbers, on 04/25/2008, -2/+2I'd disagree with #1. My gf loves it when I do that ...
    • norcalscan, on 04/25/2008, -0/+4Converted to a married man's perspective (for those who think we're pussy-whipped, life will make much more sense when you grow up):
      1 Ignore them: Yes - this actually is true. Running into a room and wanting to play/interact/whatever with them simply interrupts whatever they are doing and they are not pleased. Let them choose the time to play, and you better be ready to play at their whim.
      2 Bribe them: More along the lines - show that you care and are thinking of them. Little meaningful gifts here and there, or a card left in a spot she'll find it, or a note on the computer screen that she'll see when she logs in to catch up on her people.com crap
      3 Compliment them: Duh - this goes without saying. Even better when they're having a bad day and think bad of themselves. You can be the hero of the day just by saying "I don't think those pants make your ass big." You have to be careful though. There's a fine line between truth and comfort. If they do make her look hideous, she's going to want to know. Real women won't set you up. They'll thank you for the truth. Fake women will purposely wear something hideous and ask your opinion.
      4 Listen to them: Listen listen listen, but do NOT try to fix anything. No matter how senseless, illogical or insane it is. Just bite your lip and listen. They don't want you to fix anything. Just nod and say "I understand"
      5 Apologize: Only if you are wrong, or if you're listening to their bad day and you're apologizing that they had a bad day. If you're right, do not apologize, but do not argue either.
      6 Let them do it: FTA it was perfectly said "let her do it and secretly hope that she finds out herself that it was a stupid idea." As a man, would you let a woman tell you how to do something?
      7 Don't tell them what to do: Goes in hand with 6. Men have the logical way of doing something, women do not. It took me years to figure this out. I still have a rough time with this.
      8 Don't complain to them: *****. Just don't go overboard. You can complain about a general issue, bad day at work, boss, etc. But don't go into details like they do. You're just venting, not expecting a rose bath made up for you and your feet massaged. And if they sense something is wrong with you, don't man up and claim there is nothing wrong. That's when you go with the flow and let them pamper you.
      9 Don't argue: Another FTA spot-on. You never win. And if you do, you still didn't because her mood afterwards sucks. And she will remember the exact argument and what you said for years to come.
      10 Don't make them cry: You fail as a husband if you make them feel bad enough to cry. However, if they start crying on a dime as an act, call them on their ***** and leave. And if you make them cry because they are so happy, then she better let you know you are the best husband in the world.
      • norcalscan, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2what a mess, thanks digg comments
      • sk11, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1Yeah, the article starts ok, but then degenerates into "how you can become a pathetic, pussy wiped, shadow of a man."
        He should just surrender his balls, they aren't of any use to him now.
  • sungoddess808, on 04/25/2008, -31/+16Nice list. Instead of ignoring them for #1.. I would have put.. #1 - Be attentive. If someone ignores me, I'll get up and walk. Too many other fish in the sea! =)
    • kingmanic, on 04/25/2008, -2/+54There is a gulf between how a woman thinks she is and how she is. If you looked back and saw all the relationships that you got into, it likely involved someone who could live without you and all the men you ran from where men who invested too much emotionally in you. You'd see the author is exactly right. A woman doesn't want to be ignored but she also doesn't want someone who worships her. Most often she will notice someone who seems like he'd good on his own and has some aloofness. This is what the author means. He means be aloof. It creates curiosity. If you come on too strong a woman will assume you are clingy or insecure. If you remain a bit aloof it gives her a mystery to solve and she'll want to bridge the emotional gap.
      • ninjadave, on 04/25/2008, -2/+22Modded you up, and OP down. The man who spends his time tending to his womans every needs will find another man tending to her other needs one day, if you know what I mean.
      • gotterdammerung, on 04/25/2008, -1/+15There is a gulf between how most human beings think they are, and how they actually are. I think what you're saying applies to both genders - PEOPLE don't want to be ignored by their partners, PEOPLE don't want to be worshiped by their partners. I fail to see how basic social interaction guidelines can apply to just one gender.
        • dafragsta, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3Sure, that's true to a point, but women are way more needy for compliments and affirmation about themselves than men, which is the reason women get the reputation. Women set the curve for the effectiveness of flattery and giving in to arguments. Guys can also argue and a compromise can be reached. With women, it always feels like the compromise isn't really much of a compromise.
      • degron, on 04/25/2008, -2/+3That was beautiful.
      • frishack, on 04/25/2008, -6/+2What a load of crap, who needs these mind games. Certainly not me.
      • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -3/+3Women don't want a man who smothers them or treats them like they need their attention 24/7. I have never gone for the aloof guy over the attentive guy. You might assume I just don't understand myself, but frankly you don't know me at all and my history proves me right. Don't be clingy, but aloof sends signals that you just don't care. I have always wanted the guy who could live with out me, but would be much happier with me, as that is usually how I feel in a healthy happy relationship as well.

        I have to second what gotterdammerung said as well, many of the things men claim are irrational about women are actually irrational things about people and if they do a bit of self examination they will find they are guilty of the same things. Do you think men have a more realistic self image than women do? Of course not.
        • Asrrin29, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3Don't be too aloof. Don't be too smothering. So what's the happy medium then? See, this is the problem. It all makes sense in your mind, and it's like we should intuitively know what is enough and what is too much/not enough. But we don't. We never will.
          • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1Try not calculating it at all. Trying to pretend you are someone you are not will exhaust both of you, and you'll never get it right. You need to just be the person you are while spending as much time and attention on your partner as you like, if thats not enough for her or too much for her, then shes probably not the woman for you. I'm not saying you should never compromise or consider the other person, but the fact is every woman is different and rules like this will not help you. Let me repeat that for emphasis: every woman is different. We are all unique, just like men.
        • kingmanic, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2I modded you and Gotterdammerung up. I am aware it's a universal human trait. I do feel it's more pronounced in women then men, from my own personal experience but thats an awfully small sample and human beings are very diverse.
          • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1Its a lot to do with personal bias. Emotionally needy? You're a clingy chick whos trying to trap your man. Cold and aloof? You're just a bitch. I'm glad you see my point but I wish you could see how its your perspective from the other side that makes you believe its more a female thing than a male thing.
    • Number23, on 04/25/2008, -0/+39Hmm…. A woman who calls herself sungoddess insists upon attention from her suitors. That is surprising.
    • dcmjzero, on 04/25/2008, -3/+12that is what you want to think. reality is all girls follow #1- they just don't want to admit it.
      • kerink, on 04/25/2008, -7/+4I have known many men that are exactly the same way. As soon as I show a lack of interest they come on super strong. I think that is a human thing more than a girl thing...
        • zeabu, on 04/25/2008, -0/+4When I'm in a bar, there are ALWAYS these kind of girls that think I'm getting interested by turning their back towards me. I think it's stupid, and although I know she's interest I couldn't give a ***** less.
          Look at me if your interested! You'll only attract pathetic man, the one trying to get a chat with 50 girls, in the hope that during the course one will be flattered enough to do so. Bad thing is, they always succeed.
          • formido, on 04/25/2008, -0/+3LOL. This is so true. Women are transparent. It doesn't matter if you turn your back to me or come on to me, I know you've noticed me. The one who's going to attract my long term interest is the one who's willing to put it on the line and meet me half way. Be direct.
    • dafragsta, on 04/25/2008, -5/+11If there's anything I know about women, it is that they think they are rational and self aware. They are SOOOO not either of those things. The only attention I ever get from women is when they catch me staring and then I pretend to ignore them afterwards. Of course, I found this out by accident, but it has gotten me more attention from women than any other angle I've tried, INCLUDING buying gifts.
    • Adys, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2That's what SH... eeehh nevermind.
    • consoneo, on 04/25/2008, -5/+5I'd put #1: Never try to understand women. Try to understand a woman. They're all different, and most of them are crazy, compared to what you think of yourself.

      #2: There are no rules past number 2.
  • reyesz, on 04/25/2008, -5/+75"...clear insight into how the female mind works." Good luck with that.
    • zantos420, on 04/25/2008, -3/+22article title should read: "Everything I Know About Being My Girlfriends Bitch"
  • TheCatsPants, on 04/25/2008, -6/+29Would the author have found that small boys act the same way?
    • dcmjzero, on 04/25/2008, -6/+5no.
    • csw1342, on 04/25/2008, -10/+15And you go have a seat over there.
    • BradBrown, on 04/25/2008, -3/+4Not without being labeled a pedophile and thrown into big boy prison.
      • Christia, on 04/26/2008, -0/+1Throw pedophile into large prison for boys is bad idea
  • monsterette, on 04/25/2008, -19/+5...perhaps some but not all...it is difficult to understanding either of the genders!
    • kinerry, on 04/25/2008, -6/+38guys are easy to understand, women just make the assumption that were as complicated as them
      • formido, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2Women don't realize that they don't understand men. The problem is, men are easy to attract, obviously, which is what makes women so hard for men, since THEY aren't. But where a woman's lack of understanding comes into play is in the relationship phase. Women just want someone who makes them feel safe and committed and they're happy. They mistakenly project this relationship goal on men, when in reality, men want to feel desired sexually by their women (which usually means lots of sex).

        I don't think women understand men any better than vice versa, I just think the fallout from the lack of understanding manifests at different points in the courtship.
    • dcmjzero, on 04/25/2008, -5/+24guys are easy to understand if you think logically. for women, therein lies the problem.
    • afortnightdead, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2Interesting to see that monsterette's getting dugg down for making sense.
    • zeabu, on 04/25/2008, -0/+6Because one man loves soccer, and another doesn't, that doesn't mean we're complex.
      Complex is, a girl, one day says one thing, and next day says the complete opposite.
  • degron, on 04/25/2008, -8/+120I am sorry that your niece is named Lou-Lou.
    • TheGeneral, on 04/25/2008, -0/+3Why is it Lou-Lou and not Lulu?
    • miko555, on 04/25/2008, -1/+4You know, it might just be her nickname...
  • krets, on 04/25/2008, -2/+60___ --- Everything I know about women...
  • kinerry, on 04/25/2008, -13/+50You had be at first, but lost me when you told me to let her win.

    If you let a woman win, she sees you as weak. Good luck getting laid at that point.
    • sponeil, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3You misunderstood. He meant after you've already got her.
      • formido, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1Although you've been dugg down, this is an important point that applies to this whole conversation. How you should behave toward a woman depends on what stage in the courtship you're at.
    • IglooBurner, on 04/25/2008, -3/+14See the trick is not just to pretend that she's right, but to show her that she's wrong while pretending that she's right.
      • zeabu, on 04/25/2008, -0/+14Sometimes I say, "you're wrong, but we're going to act like you're right" she will reply that she IS right, and then you can say "I already said you're right".
        For me that works. She thinks she has won, but is not 100% sure, and for me ***** is over.
      • gregish, on 04/25/2008, -2/+3kid knows how to keep getting laid
    • dcmjzero, on 04/25/2008, -2/+15or you could win. and then she will make your day miserable. and you lose. either way, you lose. pick the least painful.

      you're not married, are you?
      • frishack, on 04/25/2008, -1/+8I'm really really sorry you have to live this way. It's too late to get out now though or you lose half your stuff. Sucks to be you I guess.
    • TubaTechno, on 04/25/2008, -5/+5married men pretty much give up on getting laid....

      j/k - newly wed here (1yr), still like rabbits.
      • Hillyard, on 04/25/2008, -3/+3Let's see ya after one year and sex isn't new anymore.
        • tacroy, on 04/25/2008, -4/+4Almost 5 years here. We're just more experienced rabbits.
      • washburn085, on 04/25/2008, -2/+21I hope you did the jelly bean thing. For every time you have sex your first year of marraige put a jelly bean, nickle, something in a bowl. Then after the first year, take one out for every time you have sex. You will never empty that bowl... thats why old people have a bowl of candy on their side tables.
      • enicholas, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2Yeah, my wife and I still had an active sex life right up until the second kid. Now we're generally either too damned tired, too emotionally drained, or there's a two year old crawling into bed with us after having a nightmare.

        Sex is now a rare and special thing to be cherished.
    • muchachoburacho, on 04/25/2008, -3/+18You've obviously never been in argument with a woman. That seems to be the right solution, except they refuse to be wrong. Men are naturally handicapped in arguments, because we have a necessity to make sense.
      • degron, on 04/25/2008, -2/+6You've obviously never carried the argument out long enough, they will eventually give up.
        • sponeil, on 04/25/2008, -3/+4Yeah, but most women will do everything they can to try to make you regret it (assuming you've been with them a while). It's a lot like the saying "You can't fight city hall." Technically you can, but they control the police in your city, and they will harass you afterward for as long as you live there. Am I saying that politicians act like petty women who have been jilted? Hell yes. ;-)
        • georgetds, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2Twenty years is just to long to hold onto an argument for most guys, though.
    • cowsgonemadd3, on 04/25/2008, -5/+2
      Sex is for marriage.
    • betterth, on 04/25/2008, -1/+7Be strong 99% of the time. It's that 1% of weakness that will hook a girl forever.

      It's that 1% that will make her say "You just don't know him! You don't understand! Yes, he's a raging ***** and likes punching babies, but once you get past that, he's such a *sweet guy*." You have to give the 1% or else you're just 100% ass hole... :P
    • arobicha, on 04/25/2008, -2/+0He said not to argue. If you're calm, well intentioned, and willing to admit when you're wrong (or quit when they're just not budging), you'll do just fine. Pick your battles is the translation into "adult affairs".
  • JonTheGoose, on 04/25/2008, -2/+15I think, besides the first two, this would apply to not just women but to people in general.
  • Slybri, on 04/25/2008, -8/+26So I should treat women like babies?
    • msk275, on 04/25/2008, -11/+4Not going to lie, this article is a little creepy. Like... how to be a creepy uncle to your 2 y/o niece by writing a story about how to amuse her.
    • lnxfi, on 04/25/2008, -2/+27Not all, but some like to be spanked.
    • dcmjzero, on 04/25/2008, -5/+12more like emotional toddlers.
      • Apollyon0810, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1That's exactly what I felt the author was getting at. I think most women would be offended if you treated them like that. To treat them like "emotional toddlers" just to avoid confrontation. Any intelligent woman would be upset by that.
    • mali1, on 04/25/2008, -2/+6So like how they treat women in Saudi Arabia?
    • mwalker05, on 04/25/2008, -5/+7actually a little bit, yes. women like to be spoiled, are emotionally needy, and pretty much oblivious to the feelings of anybody around them.
      • gryphon50, on 04/25/2008, -3/+2who is taking care of the kids then, mothers or fathers? Who takes care of the elderly? I've heard of women not only taking care of their parents but taking care of their HUSBAND'S parents. And in a relationship, who is usually taking care of the other person, husband or wife? If you are honest with those answers, you know it is women every time. But if it makes you feel better, believe whatever you want.
      • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -3/+6I'm sorry that you must have bad taste in women, and haven't been lucky in the females that have surrounded you in your life. All I can say is, you are wrong. i don't like to be spoiled, in fact my partner finds it frustrating how much I limit what he spends on me. I'm not any more needy than him either, though I'm more likely to make it known that I crave reassurance and hes more likely to silently feel bad, and even following stereotypes your last point is complete crap. Women are the mothers, they tend to be (not all of course) empathetic and most concerned with the well being of their family and friends.

        I think you'll find that in the future you'll have more rewarding relationships if you examine the type of women you choose to be around, and stop making these kind of nasty assumptions about each one.
    • kashk5, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3No, just like a 2 year old
    • formido, on 04/25/2008, -3/+1Very, very few women do not want to be taken care of at some level, regardless of their success or the enlightened, liberal caliber of their politics. Any man who doesn't acknowledge this will severely curtail his opportunities with women and probably make dangerous errors in his first long term relationship.
  • ltdraper, on 04/25/2008, -6/+27Funny, a story about the mysteries of women immediately goes to the front page.
  • tont0r, on 04/25/2008, -15/+9All I know is that their vagina has mystical powers over all men.
    • IglooBurner, on 04/25/2008, -4/+3not to be confused with the waste of skin around the vagina.
    • degron, on 04/25/2008, -2/+3What about gay guys?
  • msk275, on 04/25/2008, -9/+5You might want those 20 years back.... cause it's probably not worth the result.
  • lnxfi, on 04/25/2008, -7/+17Also, "It doesn't matter what you do. It's more about what you don't do. Even if you go to the moon and back for her, she'll wonder why you stopped short of mars."
    • MortalynFlux, on 04/25/2008, -3/+11Yeah, she'll ask for more and then go get her brains screwed out by her neighbor, who treats her like *****.
      • miko555, on 04/25/2008, -1/+10O_o?
        Personal experience much?
      • Twisty, on 04/25/2008, -0/+4Harsh man. Bone her sister!
        • MortalynFlux, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1"I know where, baby,
          you been runnin' 'round loose on the side.
          I know where, little lady,
          you been runnin' 'round with something to hide.
          I don't mind, darlin', if you're feelin' fancy and free.
          I don't mind, little baby,
          cause your sister's lookin' real good to me."

          -Journey, "Where Were You?"
  • eq2s, on 04/25/2008, -12/+148Summary of article: Men should be submissive.
    I disagree.
    • Omniac, on 04/25/2008, -9/+5I didn't get that at all from the article. Sounded a little more light-hearted like "love can be a game" with some half truths to make the article entertaining.
      • degron, on 04/25/2008, -0/+7Uhh Bribe them, beg for forgiveness for stuff you don't even know about, and let them win arguments even though they are wrong.... WTF did you read?
        • zeabu, on 04/25/2008, -2/+2You can be right, and stick to it for a week. Or you can be smarter, take the blame on you, and have a nice make up ***** the same evening.
          Choosing between "being right" and not have my whole week spoiled, that's an easy one.
          • degron, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2How can taking the blame for something you didn't do or bribing a chick ever smart? Your just digging a hole. Stand up for yourself and stop being a pushover.
          • zeabu, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2There are principles and there are those little fights over nothing. A principle never gets overriden, those little fights... well, the hell with it. I don't want to put my energy into it. So I might have expressed myself in a bad way. I'm not a doormat. Break my principle and there's the door.
    • TubaTechno, on 04/25/2008, -4/+17It's not technically yielding to the will of another, it's more like learning how to manage a person who is emotional and illogical.
      • eq2s, on 04/25/2008, -0/+6I disagree.
        Some of those examples imply that the male should be submissive towards the womans emotional and material needs. Further, ideas such as "Don't argue" suggest that a man should not be in anyway assertive in a relationship because it is hopeless.
      • 55mph, on 04/25/2008, -3/+1tuba, smart post!
    • urinate, on 04/25/2008, -0/+9I disagree as well. I don't like submissive men.
      • degron, on 04/25/2008, -1/+8My GF likes to get manhandled sometimes when she is out of control. She says it turns her on...I find this true of a lot of women. You don't have to be an ass or even get physical, you just got to take control of the situation with aggressiveness sometimes. Assertive I guess is the word.
        • betterth, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1Theres a reason makeup sex is the best. Especially when the arguement turns into makeup sex with a smooth transition.

          :shrug:
      • zeabu, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1You like the man that says "je m'en fou".
    • CaptainKimo, on 04/25/2008, -0/+3Exactly my thought while reading this.
    • lordno, on 04/25/2008, -0/+3Just take the ignore them comment and insert into every number that has a don't. They have a stupid idea - ignore it. They want to argue - ignore them. You want to win an argument with a woman... walk away.
    • arcticsoft, on 04/25/2008, -2/+2Its not about being submissive, its about picking your battles. Ive been married for 11yrs and most disputes are little pointless things. If by submissive you mean telling her she wins then pick up and go fishing, then yeah thats me. Some things are not worth the effort in arguing, so who cares if you lose?
      • degron, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1There is where your going about it all wrong... my girl likes to go fishing too (in fact she came with her own 20' off shore boat). If we were arguing in one of these no win arguments, I'd say, if we agree to disagree about this I will load the boat and we will go fishing. That way you both kinda win. :)
        • arcticsoft, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1I tried to get my wife interested in fishing, but didnt catch on (no pun intended). So for me its nice to say you win and go out on my own. I get what I want (go fishing) and she gets what she want (a feeling of winning an argument). Then when I get home from fishing shes happy and more inept to hit the sack!
    • washburn085, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1It all depends on how you start off in the relationship. If you start off letting them win and not arguing, then they expect that. So when you get tired of it and start being assertive... its over. If you start off assertive, then it will be A-OK.
    • mwalker05, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1clearly you are not married.
    • betterth, on 04/25/2008, -1/+5It's not about being submissive, it's about picking your fights.

      Real men shrug off the insignificant *****. You don't have to be submissive to shrug off the small *****.
    • Phyraxus, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2There's a difference between submission and manipulation. Unfortunately, in this case, you are manipulating a woman to be happy, which entails submission or, at least, feigned submission.
  • beatleman, on 04/25/2008, -26/+8OH MY GAWDZ and WTF!! Front page with 88 diggs and 7 comments?? What's the world coming to? I'm moving to Canada and leaving Digg 4ever.
    • Echomote, on 04/25/2008, -4/+3Idiot. How do you think stories get 100s of diggs? People digg them when they reach the front page.

      They don't reach the page because of 400 diggs and then stay that amount.
    • Yatata, on 04/25/2008, -3/+2http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/02/ ...
    • talonstriker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+6/sarcasm
      some people need it, others don't.
      • degron, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1Obviously they do.
      • JavertHolmes, on 04/25/2008, -0/+4I'm still trying to figure out if it's a generational thing, a Digg thing, or what, but there seems to be a large group of Digg readers that have no sarcasm detection whatsoever. They just assume that everyone speaks literally all the time, no matter how many clues are dropped hinting otherwise.

    • cblaines, on 04/25/2008, -2/+0goodbye
  • bumcheekcity, on 04/25/2008, -4/+44When did "Don't make women cry" helpful advice? On the same day that "Don't swallow staples" become helpful advice?
    • spydirweb, on 04/25/2008, -3/+7grammar nazi says: I'd laugh more if that was grammatically correct.

      (still got a digg)
    • danielatari, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1Chicks are strawberry flavored staples.
  • PhattyPhattMatt, on 04/25/2008, -6/+12is it weird that you are taking advice from your 2 year old niece about older women? you should probably try advice from other older women... Just some more advice for you.
    • PleaseJustDie, on 04/25/2008, -4/+12Except you can't ask advice from older women about women because they will tell you what they want to think they themselves want and when you do that they will get upset with you because what they want to think about themselves is not how they really are.
      • corneliusJones, on 04/25/2008, -3/+7whaa.... ? that sounds like woman-speak there
        • kashk5, on 04/25/2008, -1/+9No, it makes perfect sense. Women don't actually know what they want, so asking them what they want is a futile effort, and more often than not, it'll be actually the exact opposite of what actually works.
        • enicholas, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2Absolutely true. An event from my childhood really stuck with me: my mother said she didn't want my father to do anything special for her birthday. So he says "okay" and gets her a cupcake and a card.

          Her reaction? She was so upset at having nothing special occur on her birthday that my father was in the doghouse for a week. After she told him not to. For a while I thought my mother was just psycho, but as an adult I realize that that isn't abnormal behavior for a woman. My wife has done similar things, though fortunately she's not as illogical as my mother was and can at least admit that her reaction is silly. Admitting that she's being silly doesn't make her stop crying, though -- must be something about that extra X chromosome.

          It's absolutely true that asking women what they want and then trusting the answer can get you in serious trouble. You're supposed to be able to just magically figure it out, even if the true answer completely contradicts their verbal answer.
        • Phyraxus, on 04/25/2008, -2/+2@ enicholos: They don't want you to get them anything, they want you to WANT to get them something.
    • zeabu, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2At that age they're still not wicked.
  • pat0neill, on 04/25/2008, -4/+20what is women?
  • chrissku, on 04/25/2008, -3/+24Pretty funny list. This list would be great for a guy that's pussy whipped and wants to spend every minute of his life worshipping his women.
    • wrestlingnrj, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3That is the perfect description of my best friend.
    • zeabu, on 04/25/2008, -1/+5Dugg for "...his life worshipping his women."
  • dmark77, on 04/25/2008, -3/+3011) Women make plans.
    There is no such thing as a free lunch, so don't be surprised to hear things like "marriage" and "kids" after 2 years of fun and good sex.
    • IglooBurner, on 04/25/2008, -3/+13my first date with an ex gf.
      me- "so what do you look for in relationships"
      her- "a husband"
      • kashk5, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2Got a similar answer once. Thought she was kidding. Turns out I was wrong. I don't think I've run away from a relationship faster in my life
        • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -1/+4At least shes honest? Would you rather her have been thinking that but feed you some ***** and drop it on you later when she thinks she has you trapped?
    • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -1/+8How is it unreasonable after 2 years to be thinking about the future of the relationship? If shes entering into a life stage where she wants to get married and have babies and all that, its completely reasonable for her to be confirming that her partner is on the same page, and if you're not.. time for your relationship to end. I disagree when women say a man is wrong or bad or unfit if he doesn't want these things though, the only important thing is that both partners plans are compatible.
      • dmark77, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2Agreed.

        My point is that the woman has been making plans for kids and marriage from the start - where as the man may have not.
        • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1Where do you get that from? How do you know thats the situation? Women change and grow and their plans evolve with them, just like men. You're just paranoid if you're assuming all women are making these plans long before they are even ready for that phase.
          • dmark77, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3I am getting that from my own personal experience, and other men who have commented the same thing.

            The two replies above us have confirmed that.

            Lets avoid the whole "Well I don't know where you are meeting women" argument, by asking you if you'd like to have a prolonged exclusive-sexual-friendship-relationship for the next 2-10 years that doesn't lead to kids & marriage? If so, send me a shout.
          • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3I think I'd rather have kids before I'm 40, hence why I'm with a man who wants the same. I do have more than one friend not intending on having any and not interested in marriage, but unfortunately "some guy on digg" is not a good enough reference for me to introduce you.

            Also.. the replies above only confirm that some women want those things and are honest about it from the start, not that women are all secretly planning it in every relationship.
          • dmark77, on 04/25/2008, -1/+4You are avoiding the issue. In reality "some guy on digg" would never work, so lets leave fantasy land.

            I ask again - if you'd like to have a prolonged exclusive-sexual-friendship-relationship for the next 2-10 years that doesn't lead to kids & marriage?

            From the sound of it - you do have plans to have kids before the age of 40.

            Hence - "Women make plans" and there is no free lunch.
          • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2I said before the age of 40 because that would be the 10 year mark for me that you mentioned, hence that kind of relationship would not be for me at this point in time. I had a prolonged exclusive-sexual-friendship-relationship for almost 5 years, and when our plans changed and didn't match, that was the end of the relationship. I wasn't planning that from the beginning, thats just the way things developed for us.

            People make plans, but not so far in advance as you are claiming, and women do get into relationships for the pure love of being with that person whether you are willing to see that or not.
          • dmark77, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1I firmly believe they do make plans that far in advance. Whether it be a single mom looking for a new daddy, or a girl looking for a husband - the end result (new daddy, husband, etc...) is usually the goal over the individual themselves.

            It is one of the reasons our divorce rate is so high.


        • apetrie, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1One other thing, if I had known that he wouldn't be ready for all that when I would be, I still would have gotten involved with him because that relationship had great value to me beyond all that. I'm sorry but, you just don't understand people as well as you think.
    • s0nicfreak, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2(this is more to all to all the repliers than the person I'm actually replying to but...) The whole point of dating is to find out if you want to spend the rest of your life with that person, and for many people that means marriage. What the hell is the point of staying with someone for 10 years if your relationship is never going to go anywhere? And before you go on about spending 10 years with someone you enjoy being around... why waste 10 years that you could spend getting to know someone you're actually going to spend your life with? I'm not even a big marriage supporter (I think it is a financial contract that most often screws men over, rather than something that shows your love) but many women do want to get married, and why should they waste their prime husband-finding years with you if you're just going to break up with them for someone younger and hotter in 10 years?? To be happy right now (but totally ***** over in 10 years)?
      • BoneheadFarker, on 04/25/2008, -1/+0If a couple stays together for 10 years, what does a marriage certificate say about them that their relationship isn't already saying? If a couple breaks up after 10 years, what does it say about their relationship whether they've been married for 10 years or not? Why is being with someone that you're not married to automatically mean that you'll eventually get ***** over? Why is marriage so important to you when you say that you don't really support marriage? Something tells me that you're a little insecure. It's fine to be insecure, but if you don't face it then it will come out in strange ways...
  • adriankeith, on 04/25/2008, -7/+5Or you can listen to Tom Leykis.
    • j3ff86, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1he's a hack
    • huertanix, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1Leykis is a fat douche with an appeal to the low-brow who wish to troll for skank their entire life.
  • MaxCS06, on 04/25/2008, -1/+20got balls?
    • Wakuko, on 04/25/2008, -0/+0Show balls!
      That's all women want.
      :
      And money
      :
      Mostly money, believe me on that
  • Link5424, on 04/25/2008, -4/+1i dont think we will ever figure them out..i know i sure cant :/ i guess all we can do is guess...sounds like fun right?
  • itsgotyou, on 04/25/2008, -4/+26I'm a married man and all I know is that I only need to please one *****; and that ***** is me.
  • mikeyellenlee, on 04/25/2008, -3/+5This actually kinda makes sense.
  • JAGUART, on 04/25/2008, -10/+17Women. Nice ones, the most frigid of the race, it doesn't matter in the end. Inside they're all the same meat and gristle and hatred just simmering. - Chad, In The Company of Men
    Women don't become human until after fifty, when they realize men are no longer interested in putting up with their *****.
    • laughandsing, on 04/25/2008, -3/+6I sir believe I am human... and I am not 50...I put up with plenty of crap on the opposite side of the road... I do not hate I just get frustrated, but I suppose it depends on the woman
      • pigducksheep, on 04/25/2008, -3/+1No one wants to put up with your comment. Maybe you'll realize that when you're say 50?
    • kashk5, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3Don't forget the ugly ones, they become human well before 50
  • gotterdammerung, on 04/25/2008, -8/+44Every two-year-old I've babysat, regardless of gender, exhibits all of the behaviors this dude talks about. All babies cry, all babies want stuff, all babies are incapable of higher level logic/reasoning. To say that "two-year-old Lou-Lou is the undiluted, unaffected essence – the 'id' – of womanhood" really infantilizes women, and makes it kind of clear why this guy is still single in his mid-thirties.
    • kingmanic, on 04/25/2008, -10/+3ID is a concept which has fallen out of acceptance in modern psychology. The whole Freudian (ego, super ego, id) thing had no supporting evidence and died as soon as Freud did.
      • corneliusJones, on 04/25/2008, -1/+9I disagree, the id, ego, and superego are a useful, if very rough, way to understand personality.
      • MortalynFlux, on 04/25/2008, -1/+6They were the basis for the list of defense mechanisms written by his daughter, which are still in use today.
      • Liability, on 04/25/2008, -1/+4I don't know about you guys, but I for one basically live in a state of perpetual cognitive dissonance in between base impluses and higher-level causal reasoning. 'Growing up' is essentially a process of refining your behavior into a more complex set of sequences in order to meet your needs.

    • BoneheadFarker, on 04/25/2008, -6/+4But eventually boys grow out of it...



      Yeah, I know I'm going to pay for that one. I've had some problems lately...as in I'm catching ***** for something I'm not even sure I was involved in. But since it's my sister, I'm sure as hell not going to simply apologize...
      • gotterdammerung, on 04/25/2008, -3/+6Boys grow out of it, while girls don't? Let me put on a low-cut top and test that theory.

        Some people remain easily-pleased simpletons their whole lives. The type of dude that's going to quite obviously ogle my ***** on the street, and want to talk to me solely because of them, is no better or worse than the type of chick who ogles the guy in the expensive car, and wants to be with him because of it.
        • BoneheadFarker, on 04/25/2008, -2/+2It has nothing to do with ogling. It was a joke at the expense of my sister for giving me ***** over some random slight that she thinks I'm responsible for. Of course nothing I say will convince her that she's blowing things way out of proportion. All she knows is she's pissed off and I'm responsible. So far, every woman I've met behaves like this, though maybe not as violently as my sister does. I might put up with it for the right woman, but my sanity just can't handle taking it from all women...
        • earther, on 04/25/2008, -2/+5Yes, but the man will admit he's after teh titties, whereas the woman will lie to herself and others about her intentions... generally speaking.
    • scamper22, on 04/25/2008, -3/+1Yeah the difference is that boys have to become men. Which historically has meant men have to take on responsibility, work, deal with problems....

      There was an article on the BBC the other day about saudi women trapped in perpetual childhood because men are expected to take care of them completely. That's an extreme case, but women throughout the world all generally tend this way. They are trapped in perpetual childhood of being taken care of because they are not forced to take care of themselves. My aunt went to Saudi arabia to work (they pay big bucks). She used to say, if you want anything out of a saudi man, just start crying. They will do anything to stop a woman from crying. She used to abuse it just the same. Stuck in line at the airport...cry.

      Now this is changing of course with more and more independent women... Yet it is generally still true.
      • gotterdammerung, on 04/25/2008, -0/+3Girls have to become women. Which, historically, has meant taking on one of the most draining physical experiences possible - bearing, weaning, and rearing children. I'm sure you didn't mean to slight the "responsibility," "work," and "problems" involved with that.

        You're talking about Saudi Arabia: a place where women do not even have the right to vote. These women are culturally and legally denied an outlet for expression about what they'd like to do in their own lives. I understand that certain cultures have infantilized women for a very long time, but to say that it is currently, generally true that women still expect men to completely support them is patently false.
        • BoneheadFarker, on 04/25/2008, -2/+2Again...you pick apart a post, and get upset about the parts that offend you without taking into account the whole post. THAT is the thing about women that pisses me off. He fully admits that Saudi Arabia is an extreme case. And how his aunt began manipulating people to get her way in the manner expected in that area, just as woman do things to manipulate people here. But you're pissed off at the fact that he compared women here with women in Saudi Arabia. And how he slighted the "responsibility," "work," and "problems" involved with raising children, a task that has been *expected* of men to share an equal part in the last 30 years. If a man were to make a leap in logic like that, we'd be called insane. But it seems perfectly logical to women when a woman does it...

          Now about the matter of being taken care of...yes, it is still expected. It's not about food or shelter...every woman I've met wants a man to buy them whatever they want when they want it. Except they don't actually say they want it. Instead they'll just pick something up, say "that's pretty", put it down and walk away simply expecting the man to buy it. And when he doesn't she spends the next 3 days giving him the cold shoulder without ever explaining *why* she so upset. The man is just expected to apologize and kiss her ass if he ever expects her to be nice to him again.

          If women would just stop playing ***** games all the time, there wouldn't be these problems...
          • gotterdammerung, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2First of all: I'm perfectly calm, dude. To suggest that a thread on a website would "upset" me is laughable.

            I did take the whole post into account. He cites an extreme example, then generalizes women worldwide by saying "yet it is still generally true."

            "Historically" is a term that, to me, suggests more than just the past 30 years. But since you mention the past 30 years... within the past 30 years, women have been increasingly expected to bring an income to the household - which was typically the "male" role.

            I do know women that sound like what you describe, but I know plenty who are not. If you can't weed them out, that's another can of worms entirely. I also know that there are stereotypical male behaviors that anger many of the women I know - but, again, there are plenty of men who don't fulfill that stereotype. Games are played regardless of gender, and people piss other people off regardless of gender. I think you're really over-simplifying here.
          • BoneheadFarker, on 04/25/2008, -2/+0So you're telling me that you don't expect a man to ever buy you anything? You're always upfront with the things that your upset about? You never get upset when he does things unintentionally? You never play games at all? Don't tell me...you never lie to men either, right?

            You are no different the rest the population. Everyone is ***** crazy when it comes to the opposite sex. And the fact is that men try anything they can to get laid, and women use that to hold power over men in order to gain security. I'll fully admit it...I want to get laid. It would be nice to meet someone that I get along with and have a meaningful relationship, but I don't kid myself over what my goals are. Don't try to make yourself out to be better then everyone else...
        • scamper22, on 04/25/2008, -2/+0"I understand that certain cultures have infantilized women for a very long time, but to say that it is currently, generally true that women still expect men to completely support them is patently false."

          If you think that every bit of the 'infantilization' of western women is gone, I think you're living in a delusional world.
          I recognize some women are moving beyond those historical norms, but many still stay with them to varying degrees.
          Many have even embraced careers and jobs, but still cling to some notion of being taken care of and not taking responsibility.
          I would argue many of these women are half way. They've simply shifted the taking care of responsibility from the man, to the state.
          For example, I don't think Hilary Clinton is an independent women in any way, nor does she advocate independence of women.
          She basically wants to shift the responsibility from the man to the state. Which is why 95% of feminists are not really independent women...they're independent until they need a man/state to take care of them.

          I gave saudi as an example because it is the only clear extreme example we have in the modern world. We're not as extreme as them, but the tendancy is still that way. Let me put it to you this way. The day a man can knock a woman out in a bar fight without being ashamed/ridiculed because she is a woman, then we can talk as if the roles and responsibilities are equal. Until then recognize the historical roles are there there.

          Now of course men are not men anymore either. We're also changing. I could go on a rant about men too :P

          • gotterdammerung, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2I agree that all traces of the infantilization of women have not been eradicated in Western culture. That was my point when commenting on this article. There ARE still women who think they can and should be provided for by a man - just as there are still men who think that women are good for nothing except cooking, cleaning, and reproducing. Small-minded, ignorant people come in both male and female forms.

            Believe me, I realize that the historical roles are still there. After all, as a woman living in 2008, I still cannot feasibly hope to make as much as a man in my position, even if I am smarter, more competent, and more ambitious than he. The day that I can expect to make as much as a man with similar education and position is the day I will talk as if gender roles are equal (assault is assault, whether it's between two men, a man and a woman, an able and a handicapped person, etc).
          • BoneheadFarker, on 04/25/2008, -2/+0Oh boo ***** hoo...you think you're being discriminated against for being a woman. Suck it up, princess. I've been in my field for the last 8 years. I've gone from getting laid off from a ***** company, to jumping ship from a really ***** company, to jumping ship from a company with no excuse, and finally arriving at company that is paying me what most people from my graduating class were making 3 years ago. And that included my boss, a woman, at the company that had no excuse for paying me *****. I didn't blame anyone for keeping me down. I sucked it up and moved on.

            Nothing is keeping you from regarding the genders as equal except for yourself.
        • scamper22, on 04/25/2008, -2/+0dare I say...that's a classic example of women expecting to be taken care of.
          "The day that I can expect to make as much as a man with similar education and position is the day I will talk as if gender roles are equal"
          you're more than free to open your own business and pay what you want. How often do you hear men, even those from discriminated communities complain about pay discrimination.
          • scamper22, on 04/25/2008, -1/+0or demand more money from your boss. If you're worth it, they will give it to you.
      • BelleAmaris, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2Boys don't always grow up and become "men" when they're supposed to. Think about all the 20s-ish (or older) males you know that are still living at home, depending on their parents. Yes, there are immature women who can't take care of themselves, but the same holds true with men.
        • scamper22, on 04/25/2008, -1/+0yeah, the times they are a changing. I think we can all agree on that.
          But the historical roles still exist for now.
  • Number23, on 04/25/2008, -4/+67Bitches is crazy.
  • sponeil, on 04/25/2008, -1/+30"If I come into a room and bounce up to Lou-Lou like a clown, trying to amuse and entertain, she blanks me completely. It’s as if I don’t exist. If I walk straight past her, however, I guarantee she will call out my name and want to play with me."
    - I've read that cats are the same way.
    "Gifts work. Preferably something noisy or sparkly."
    - I've read that cats are the same way.
  • BryanG412, on 04/25/2008, -6/+8I treat women like I treat my 2 year olds...smack em when they're bad and make them get me beer lol...j/k by the way
    • PopcornDave, on 04/25/2008, -2/+9That's good because the mental image of a 2 year old hauling beer to you on a Fischer Price toy is just wrong.
  • RoroCo, on 04/25/2008, -3/+61That article was like pancakes. It was great at first and then I just got ***** sick of it at the end.
    • BornWithRage, on 04/25/2008, -1/+7sick of pancakes? blasphemy!
    • tidu, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1Other breakfast entrees make me feel the same way. It must be the syrup.
      • BoneheadFarker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+5Exactly how many things do you put syrup on???
        • satandumpling, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2Pancakes, waffles, french toast, crepes...
          • BoneheadFarker, on 04/25/2008, -0/+0No sausage? That's actually pretty good. Just like honey and onion rings.
    • Gideon777, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1Mitch Hedberg FTW!
  • bag2p, on 04/25/2008, -3/+6**** learning about women. Back to the pile!!!!
  • jaytek13, on 04/25/2008, -7/+7Why is this guy complaining to his 2 year old daughter about a bad meeting? The whole thing is fake, stereotypical 'guy stereotypes women' article.
    • afortnightdead, on 04/25/2008, -1/+4Well said. This author is a cheesebag.
  • MrErr, on 04/25/2008, -3/+12After being married for 4 years, i can say that if lady needs a man to learn the lessons in the article then she is not worth it. Which means most women are not worth it. But since we men cannot live without them, it is better to play the game. But if you are looking for mature and meaningful relationship, you need to be selective in how you follow those lessons. I think 1-4 are good rules to follow. 5-10 follow selectively depending on the situation.
  • blacktriangle, on 04/25/2008, -8/+37Men who are this submissive should turn in their penis immediately.
  • MeanYogurt, on 04/25/2008, -3/+8He got number one right, but quickly went downhill after that. This is all you will need to know to be successful with women: http://www.laddertheory.com/
    • zspeed78, on 04/25/2008, -1/+3All stolen from http://www.intellectualwhores.com/ ... if you ask me.
      • MeanYogurt, on 04/26/2008, -0/+2Thats where I first discovered the ladder theory. When I googled for it to respond to this story, I assumed (perhaps badly) that the theory had taken on a life of its own at the afore mentioned url.
  • GoneGreen, on 04/25/2008, -5/+3Sounds pretty spot on.
    • robthom, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1Hahahahahaha, well its takes all kinds I guess.
  • ElAssoWipo, on 04/25/2008, -7/+8Number 5 will make you her bitch.

    Stand your ***** ground. Piss all around the house and declare it "insert your name here" land.

    Unless you're wrong. Then apologize, A LOT.
    • robthom, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1***** apologizing, even if you are wrong. You where almost right untill you gave up ground at the end.
      The only exception being if she's insanely fine, then you just have to do whatever she wants and apologize for everything.
  • fr0ng, on 04/25/2008, -5/+11Article clearly written by a virgin.
    • robthom, on 04/25/2008, -1/+2Or more likely a filthy liberal. Filthy liberals actually do get laid, but in their relationships the man is the woman and the woman is the man. Or sometimes their both the women, which as a bonus for them covers gay/lesbian territory in addition.
  • friendlyman, on 04/25/2008, -3/+9It's all about sex. Or as I like to call it poke and run.
  • 120photo, on 04/25/2008, -7/+1no comment. =)
  • hampster, on 04/25/2008, -5/+6If this article sounds good to you, please turn your penis in at the nearest penis recycling center. That way someone who actually needs it can use it.
  • mistergoodburge, on 04/25/2008, -4/+5So let me get this straight, you didn't know about the female mind...then you met a 2 year old girl....and now you understand.....ewwwwwww giggidy giggidy
  • NeoCortex, on 04/25/2008, -2/+21"In fact, be supportive, encourage her even. Then sit back and hope she discovers for herself that it was a stupid idea."

    This was the best line in it.
    • mwalker05, on 04/25/2008, -0/+1also the best advice. if you cant tactfully change her mind on something, just drop it.
  • Steinr, on 04/25/2008, -4/+2Judging by some of the comments here some people will find out soon what is meant byt the phase: " hell hath no fury like a women scorned!"

    I for one could not agree more with the article as a whole there is a few minor situational variances, my wife is never right when it comes to remembering how to get somewhere, but without her we would never get there on time.

    • robthom, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2Where does she keep your balls and how often can you visit them?
  • thentro, on 04/25/2008, -3/+21That list should be "everything I know About People"

    1: Don't be an *****
    2: repeat.
    • thentro, on 04/25/2008, -3/+4Although looking at it closer (below the bullet points) just being a submissive looser no way to relate to anyone. That guy needs help.
    • Hillyard, on 04/25/2008, -0/+9Pshh all the assholes I know end up with the hot chicks
    • tinafey, on 04/25/2008, -2/+2Well spoken. Pretty much kindergarden in 2 lines.
    • robthom, on 04/25/2008, -1/+1Mabey true in general, but not in sex. You'll have a much harder time scaring up a girlfriend being a niceguy.
  • jessdub99, on 04/25/2008, -3/+9This article may apply to SOME women but not all. From my experience they are all different and should be treated accordingly. Some women like to be treated like *****, some like to have their asses kissed. It all depends on what guy you wanna be. I tend to treat women a certain way based on how they present themselves. I'm not gonna go and tell an adorable woman to ***** off when she's been nothing but considerate and genuine. It's the complete nutjobs who are all about themselves that I seem to give the ***** end of the stick. Personal Truth: The crazy one's are always more fun (but you have to learn to deal with their *****).
  • DCGUY12, on 04/25/2008, -2/+11That they are all crazy...it's just how much crazy we're willing to put up with.
  • fknrat, on 04/25/2008, -0/+2So instead of being yourself, all you have to do is cowtow to all their little idiosyncracies and if its a matter of a wife/gf/lover, pray that all your pains will lead to sex in one form another.
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