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- TiMMY8765, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8there's plenty of useful stuff on beryl, for example: the expose-style drag and drop, and the window grouping. it's just that the plugin writers like to write the "cool" stuff more often than useful features. At this rate, Beryl will have 200 plugins by the time .2.0 is final
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Meh... It's just some other fancy-but-completely-useless Beryl plugin. Why would you use a plugin that allows you to "draw holes in windows with GIMP" and make your text less readable?!
- CoreOverride, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Nope, Beryl has plenty of usability. Due to the nature of being a developer's playground, it has tons of features that are purely graphical, i.e. 'eye candy'. Although I don't deny that most of the Beryl vids posted on Digg are "OMG OOOH loook wat i kan dou! *spin cube*", I'm saying that there's another face to Beryl - enhanced window manipulation, spatial assignment, input-enabled zoom (awesome for web design), and clever, functional use of transparency, that creates a smoother, cleaner user experience.
The "better user experience" you speak of is most likely not within Beryl's scope, if you're thinking cross-program consistency, menu/dialog usability, and other usability issues that are actually the job of the desktop environment.
tl;dr Yes, Beryl has lots of useless eye candy. Behind that eye candy are lots of useful features.
Don't go by what you see on Youtube alone, try it out! - Neiby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It looks cool, but when would this ever be useful? It's great eye candy, but it seems like it would just make things harder to read. If I'm looking at a window, 99.9% of the time I would not want to see the window behind it peaking through and cluttering things up. Then again, maybe I'm just overlooking some obvious application where this would be really handy.
- CoreOverride, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4From what I understand, this plugin was made to solve a common request: true transparency of text terminal backgrounds. The problem with Beryl's normal transparency is that applied to a terminal window, the text becomes invisible as well as the background. Since the transparency offered by terminals such as urxvt is fake (meaning, the background of the terminal is painted to match the root window under it), ugly things occur like ripping and flickering when moving the terminal around. This plugin solves that by only modifying opacity of a specific color in a specific window.
Example usage: Standard gnome terminal + full background transparency + turn off menubar + turn off window decorations + stick to desktop = terminal on desktop - psylence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3How dare they try new things or play with weird/stupid ideas. They should get back to copying Mac OSX so we can rip on them for that instead!
- psylence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here's a tip, maybe try something before saying it's useless? Considering it's free and easy to try out, it's trivial for you to not sound like an idiot!
- psylence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2se1zure: Ring ring.
- TiMMY8765, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3arjie:
he's using xfce, and their terminal already supports full transparency - pixelmixer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Im not sure there is one.. im a HUGE fan of Beryl, but I will be the first to admit that some features in Beryl are functionally useless. In any case, I find myself using them all the time... one in particular (rain/snow .. wtf? ... SNOW..) haha :) .. its all great fun!
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Trevino has a patched Konsole in his repository that offers true transparency without this weird stuff.
Somebody ought to make a video showing off all the useful features Beryl has instead of just the eye candy stuff. - XVampireX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4This is a really nice plugin :)
- jivemasta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Haha, windows could do this years ago. It's like 2 lines of code.
- Duositex, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4What the hell is the point of this? I know thats the general theme to the comments here but seriously.. who wasted their time with this? Proof of concept... but what concept is it proof of?
- topdeck55, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2isn't this just "transcolor ="?? Windows API has always had this.
- Jaydude765, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@se1zure
Personally I use the cube rotate, except with 8 sides, not 4. I find it really useful due to the amount of windows I have open most days. Because I like to visualize everything being able to see all the work spaces can be useful.
It's not for everyone, if you just like workspaces then don't install beryl. Likewise if you don't like Linux, don't use it. - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4based on the title/description I thought that the alpha channel was further broken down into 24 bits, 8 for traslucency of each basic colour. The video doesn't seem to show this. I wonder if X server could handle such things, e.g. 48 bits per pixel.
- Neiby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2That's the impression I get. Beryl is total fluff and offers not much in the way of usefulness. I don't mind eye candy as long as it HAS A POINT.
- brickbat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Man...it seems like almost everything in Beryl is fluff. I like eye-candy but for gods sake make it just slightly useful. I'm not even going to bother installing this.
- Bloast, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Awesome
- arjie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I particularly like the use in the terminals :)
- Haydre, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Awesome plugin, racarr! Keep up the good work!
- elitexero, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2What is the practical use? None.
- Nick22, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1So far from what iv seen of Beryl, it just seems to be something to dick around with and say "Hey! Look what I can do!" Howbout using effects and whatnot to actually make a better user experience, instead of just having useless effects that are fun to play around with for 5 minutes.
- bj00rn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Yawn... Even more useless than the infamous useless wobbly windows. I'm expecting billions of youtube videos proclaiming Windows Vista opacity-ownage - If you can squeeze them in between the billions of wobbly windows videos that is...
- bigtrouble77, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3What a really nice plugin. It's really great. Just Wow... wow.
- se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1i can't think of a single useful beryl feature... besides the wannabe expose/flip3d.
The "cube rotation" is useless, when you can just have workspace buttons. - diggfinity, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7So basically...it will blend.
- tileeater, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Big ***** deal.
- se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1The gimp? Yuck.
Call when there is cs2 and soon to be cs3 support.
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