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- nizzy1115, on 03/29/2009, -2/+114The site is going down. The only 2 pictures worth looking at are these:
Before: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4121/dioramaofhir ...
After: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4062/dioramaofhir ... - Stormwern, on 03/30/2009, -13/+101Let's never do that again :(
- rivalius13, on 03/30/2009, -6/+85The one building left standing was made entirely of cockroaches and twinkies.
- Nairebis, on 03/30/2009, -34/+99And if Japan had had the Atomic Bomb first, we would be looking at Hawaii.
I'm glad they had the balls to use the bomb and end the war. - JRHodes88, on 03/30/2009, -5/+60I heard a girl explain her trip to this museum once, she said that there were American children looking at these pictures on the walls and laughing.
Now that's good parenting. - GTOFan350, on 03/30/2009, -1/+42Thats completely disrespectful and makes the rest of Americans look ignorant.
- GraceHead, on 03/30/2009, -6/+46I fail to see what this has to do with the legalization of weed.
- Benjigga, on 03/30/2009, -6/+43www.richard-seaman.com??
- JCH897, on 03/30/2009, -4/+37Dugg because the guy's name is 'Richard Seaman'.
- michelsonmorley, on 03/29/2009, -1/+29It's amazing that the structure of some buildings survived.
- richirwin, on 03/30/2009, -1/+29Sounds legit.
pen island anyone? - tensaibaka, on 03/30/2009, -1/+28If you ever make it to Hiroshima, you cannot leave without visiting the Atomic Bomb museum. There's some very powerful photographs and displays there. They display some of the actual rocks with burnt in clothes in them, and some pretty graphic wax models of humans exposed to the radiation and heat. There's also a small graveyard next to the atomic bomb dome building where you can still see the black rain on the tombstones. Visiting Hiroshima and Pearl Harbor will give you a pretty good idea why wars should NEVER be your first choice.
- jjohnstn, on 03/30/2009, -0/+27From Wikipedia:
The release at 08:15 (Hiroshima time) was uneventful, and the gravity bomb known as "Little Boy", a gun-type fission weapon with 60 kg (130 pounds) of uranium-235, took fifty-seven seconds to fall from the aircraft to the predetermined detonation height about six hundred meters (1,900 ft) above the city. Due to crosswind, it missed the aiming point, the Aioi Bridge, by almost eight hundred feet and detonated directly over Shima Surgical Clinic. It created a blast equivalent to about 13 kilotons of TNT. (The U-235 weapon was considered very inefficient, with only 1.38% of its material fissioning.) The radius of total destruction was about one mile (1.6 km), with resulting fires across 4.4 square miles (11.4 km²). Americans estimated that 4.7 square miles (12.1 km²) of the city were destroyed. Japanese officials determined that 69% of Hiroshima's buildings were destroyed and another 6–7% damaged. - spitfire5637, on 03/30/2009, -3/+30dick seaman?
- 6shot, on 03/30/2009, -4/+29I suddenly feel like playing Fallout.
- Chompy, on 03/30/2009, -3/+28Little history check for you, guy; the Germans had already surrendered by the time we bombed Japan. Also, the Germans were nowhere near a working bomb.
- jasdf, on 03/30/2009, -1/+25Are there any Japanese on here who can give us insight on how your schools teach WWII?
- inactive, on 03/30/2009, -15/+37Anyone who diggs you down should be given a chance to be transported to an alternate reality where they can fight in the invasion force on the mainland of Japan.
- booyahbitch, on 03/30/2009, -1/+22Not to be morbid, but this was a fairly successful bomb seeing as it was never tested. The plutonium bomb that hit Nagasaki was tested in New Mexico.
- CoD4, on 03/30/2009, -2/+22What have we done, this is why they unleashed pokemons on us
- Stormwern, on 03/30/2009, -2/+22Before and after:
http://www.websitesrcg.com/afghanistan/photos/Badg ... - inigomntoya, on 03/30/2009, -3/+22expertsexchange?
- gllopc, on 03/30/2009, -5/+24I find it interesting that the word "they" was used in the title. From what I can tell, the photographer and submitter are both from the US. Are we (meaning US citizens) separating ourselves from the people that dropped the bombs our of guilt? It's no longer "We" who dropped the bombs, but those people of the past?
- rworne, on 03/30/2009, -0/+19I'm not Japanese, but I've read one of the textbooks. I'm also reminding you that this is a sample size of one.
Basically, it was a single paragraph. It starts with Japan bombing Pearl Harbor (no explanation why), and that the US and Japan were engaged in hostilities until the US dropped two atomic weapons on two Japanese cities (and goes into surprising detail as to the damage and death toll) which ended the war.
The Japanese text was about two lines longer than the above block of text.
I've also visited the memorial in Nagasaki. It's both fascinating and horrifying the amount of attention the Japanese give to the bombings. It was also the single most depressing place I ever visited. - personalspace, on 03/30/2009, -2/+20The water stayed surprisingly clean. But that protective display case didn't do *****.
- tehrich, on 03/30/2009, -0/+17Technically there was no point of impact, the bomb went off in the air. But, if you look in the after photo there's a red pole just to the left of the main standing building, that's the center of the blast. Above the display is a red sphere (not visible in the photo) that shows the height at which the bomb exploded.
- scarwars, on 03/30/2009, -0/+17http://rorr.im/digg.com/educational/before_and_aft ...
- RedMoonGenie, on 03/30/2009, -1/+17therapists.com?
- s0m31john, on 03/30/2009, -1/+16 アメリカ人の馬鹿
- Gguillorn, on 03/30/2009, -8/+23"'god' had nothing to do with it."
Do you do this every time someone uses this expression? - wolferz, on 03/30/2009, -2/+17No actually... but then the reason why makes perfect sense.
When japan surrendered it was unconditional. Meaning basically they said "we ***** up... take our land, our homes, our history, our people, do with them whatever you like, if you want a blow job from the emperor just let me know."
We moved in as an occupying force and then, instead of going all sadam hussein on them, we began trying to rebuild them. We even set up a series of puppet trials designed to clear the name of the emperor and restore the shatter faith of Japanese people. That japan recovered at all and didn't end up a third world country is because we moved in and helped clean up the damage we had done. We occupied japan I think for over 20 years, during which time we helped rebuild their government as a pseudo-democracy... and yes... for a time we wrote their text books the way we wanted them written.
Today the japanese are, generally speaking, well aware of the true events of WW2 and the part they played in the eventually destruction of their cities.
The Chinese on the other hand.... - repmekevets, on 03/30/2009, -0/+14it was "little boy" and "fat man," dropped on hiroshima and nagasaki, respectively.
- dagr8tim, on 03/30/2009, -3/+17From what I've read. Just that Japan was an innocent victim.
- RogerStrong, on 03/30/2009, -0/+14The Japanese didn't surrender after Hiroshima. Instead they had radio announcements that wearing white would protect you, etc.
In hindsight we know that since that "demonstration" didn't work, it's not reasonable to believe that an off-shore demonstration would work either. More likely they'd have built up their homeland air defences, and given a much higher priority to single bombers flying over. - lfrankow, on 03/30/2009, -2/+16um, it was a manufacturing center. look it up.
- Benjigga, on 03/30/2009, -1/+14I went to Pearl Harbor one time and some Japanese people were giggling. The tour guide at Pearl Harbor yelled at them about being respectful then kicked them out. The same should have happened to these American children.
- RogerStrong, on 03/30/2009, -2/+14You'd prefer they do it by hand, like when the Japanese murdered more people in Nanking by hand *after* the fall of the city, than were killed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined?
- noclss2000, on 03/30/2009, -6/+18interesting, and I'm sure all those japanese kids walking around there are told that US started the war with them. Atleast that's what their school textbooks used to teach them.
- inactive, on 03/30/2009, -3/+14Before, the Taliban was in charge, and if you didn't like it, you could have a one-way ticket to the soccer stadium where beheadings served as warning to all who would question the Taliban.
After, the politicians are subject to the voters and if the voters don't like the direction things are headed, the politicians get the boot.
Before, women were the property of their fathers, to be sold as property to their future husbands.
Before, it was illegal for women to learn how to read and write, to keep them as subjects to their owners.
After, little girls can go to school, learn how to read and write and dream of having any career they choose. - Gguillorn, on 03/30/2009, -0/+11Japan still denies real responsibility for the Rape of Nanking.
- Chompy, on 03/30/2009, -3/+14I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, that I would have dropped it. We suspected (and now know) that the Japanese would not have surrendered, because that's how they rolled. Women and children on capture islands had already jumped off of cliffs to avoid being "despoiled" by our troops, and some Japanese soldiers were still fighting a guerrilla war against us *into the 1970s*.
Every man, woman, and child would have fanatically resisted us, every step of the way. They knew only what their government's population had told them about us, which is that we are monsters. We would have had to utterly annihilate their entire population, at no small cost to ourselves; it would have been monstrous, the worst slaughter in human history. It was an ugly, *****, horrible decision.. but the bomb had to be dropped.
300,000 dead > 200,000,000 million dead. - Nairebis, on 03/30/2009, -3/+13@Anonemousk -- and I notice that you refuse to refer to everyone in war as people. Is this a defense mechanism? Trying to imply that some lives are worth more than other lives?
- giid, on 03/30/2009, -7/+17I know I personally had nothing to do with dropping the bomb, but if I were put in a position to drop it, I can't say without a shadow of a doubt that I wouldn't drop it had I been in the same circumstances.
- Balanced, on 03/30/2009, -0/+9"The Big One" is a figure of speech.
- inactive, on 03/30/2009, -1/+10We should all (Americans and Japanese alike) consider ourselves very lucky that the emperor had enough sense to end the war at that point - my understanding that there was a lot of pressure to keep the war going, despite what had happened.
- anexanhume, on 03/30/2009, -3/+12Yes. God willing, never again.
- navanclark, on 03/30/2009, -1/+10And to think that the Cold War era Hydrogen bombs were at least 100 times more powerful (in the Megaton range)! We should all be happy that none of them were ever used, and vigilant that they never do.
- acknotSW, on 03/30/2009, -0/+9Looking back on it today, dropping the bomb did have one major good side. It showed the world the true horror of these weapons when they were still in their infancy. I believe that is the main reason we haven't had a modern nuclear weapon, which is hundreds of times more powerful, used on a major city. Would MAD exist as a concept if all we ever did was test these weapons?
- inactive, on 03/31/2009, -0/+8Yes. I am glad we dropped the bomb. The alternative would have been far worse. Not just for our side, but for their side as well.
- Gguillorn, on 03/30/2009, -0/+8I guess there's not a lot of Arrested Development fans here...
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