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- Providence, on 10/12/2007, -9/+54Definitely worth a watch. I just finished the first part: all I can say is "Wow."
- ianmurrays, on 10/12/2007, -13/+44Everyone should see this movie.
- Dweller99, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36Looks like the trolls have already made a pass through the comments giving everything a thumbs down. Now how about watching the movie?
- 10 years ago - "Global warming is a myth!!!"
- 5years ago - "ok maybe its happening but we are not causing it! its the trees!!!"
- today - *sticks fingers in ears and clicks thumbs down on anything that disagrees with what Fox news tells them* - rationalist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29watch the whole thing. The director stuck political context in the 1st part, but the rest of the film builds a compelling case quite consistently, and Gore's presentation works much better as a whole. Wait until you see the 800,000 year chart...
- EmileVictor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25At least this is less narrow minded than "Don't worry about global warming - it's due to the sun! God is up there, he'll save us!". I believe in God, but not nutjobs who believe that he's going to come down and fix everything for us.
- CoyoteByte, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22According to independent scientists, they give the movie 5 out of 5 stars fro accuracy: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2126704&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
- STKD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19The cycle is somewhat covered in the movie. Although there is a natural rise and fall, it demonstrates beyond question that those periods were nothing compared to what is happening now. Just passing that along. :)
- iamtheinternet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17damn guys, quit burying him, it's a valid question, and the DVD does come out the 21st. Here's a link...
http://www.amazon.com/Inconvenient-Truth-Incomvenient/dp/B000ICL3KG?tag2=climatecrisis-20 - Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Please explain how something being online via P2P for weeks makes me like men?
- STKD, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20I'd say the section on how he got his "inspiration" was far from irrelevant Kirkio, considering it's pretty much the entire basis of the film. The loss of the presidency is also pretty relevant since it tells of how he then made a decision to do something better. Anyway, everyone should watch this film. For what it could change, it's probably one of the single most important pieces of work ever created. It should not only be recommended and get far more publicity than it does, it should be *mandatory* for people with a brain to watch this.
- etruscan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15@argoff
The inconvenient truth is, you're just plain wrong. With ice shelfs breaking off the Antarctic that are the size of whole states, it's obvious to anyone who isn't ignoring the glaring facts that we're in trouble as a planet. It's not something that our blessed "technology" can save with the wave of a magic wand, and it's not something that our government can fix with legislation, and it's not something individuals can remedy by changing their daily habits... it's a collection of all of the above. People (like you) better start taking it seriously, or a lot of other people are going to die as a result. - georgemoore13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Sorry to abuse the reply, but here are the download links. I am posting them here for visibility. Enjoy
http://www.dailymotion.com/get/12/320x240/flv/1016017.flv?key=711e21eb3e8defd92ddbc522af14f5511281c26
http://www.dailymotion.com/get/12/320x240/flv/1016017.flv?key=711e21eb3e8defd92ddbc522af14f5511281c26 - adnauseam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I read every comment in this thread from top to bottom and i have seen so many inaccuracies & people grasping at straws; brainwashing themselves into believing that nothing is wrong, the world is just on a cycle, everything will just work itself out. alas there are too many comments to respond to so i chose instead to just add these:
Exxon funds CO2 Science.com, their "facts" cannot be trusted - http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=24
and even if you don't believe they are funded by Exxon, do you really believe that all the other thousands of credible sources out there are in on some kind of scare mongering conspiracy.
There is more to this story. try reading "The Long Emergency" this book really puts the arrogance of man into real perspective. http://www.amazon.com/Long-Emergency-Converging-Catastrophes-Twenty-First/dp/0802142494
I should also point out there is a difference between land based ice and sea based ice which relates to the idea that the Antarctic is growing but if you actually watch this movie (as you all should) you will have the basic knowledge needed to see through the deceit of these global warming discrediting articles.
read, read, read and then read some more. the answers & truths are all out there. don't allow the proverbial wool to be pulled over your eyes, or if it has been, don't be apathetic and allow that wool to remain. - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18How on earth could you Americans have passed on this guy in favour of Chimpy *****?
Honestly… give yourselves an uppercut. - sid13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"Excellent," said William Schlesinger, dean of the Nicholas School of Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University. "He got all the important material and got it right."
And similar reactions from other experts, researchers:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-06-27-gore-science-truth_x.htm
(It's the same AP article...) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Durendal exhibits the depth of understanding typical of any Exxon executive. Read the Wikipedia entry about the Center for the study of carbon dioxide and global change.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_the_Study_of_Carbon_Dioxide_and_Global_Change
Conclusions largely debunked, funding drying up, links to the oil and gas industry.
Next. - zambuka, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Yes there is evidence that many glaciers have been retreating since the 1800s. The point is however that their rate of retreat has increased significantly in the last 50 years. That is, many of those glaciers have retreated further in the 56 years since 1950 than they have in the preceding 150 years (and even longer). The Napoleonic glacial retreats could be measured in a few feet per year, today's rate of retreat is measured in tens and even hundreds of feet per year.
Yes there are many natural cycles that you can point to when nay-saying the global warming issues. But you also need to look at the rate of these changes. There have been greater environmental changes during the last 50 years than at any other point in recorded or testable history. The glaciers are melting faster, the temperature is rising faster, the CO2 content of the atmosphere is rising faster. It is the rate of change that is just as important as the change itself. - Providence, on 10/12/2007, -12/+22Yeah, that Macbook of his got a lot of airtime. And I was kinda "wtf?" when he started talking about popular vote vs. electoral college and his loss to Bush.
- Jandels, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Google video version:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8893480206836468330 - Dweller99, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10"Now the worst quality information available is being freely distributed. *sigh*"
I agree, but try as I might I can not convince the FCC to shut down Fox News. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Its certainly the most interesting (and troubling) 'man standing in front of pie-charts movie' I've ever seen.
Should be mandatory watching for everyone. - Bobby8988, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16when does it come out? .... I think Maybe this Tuesday?
- benliong, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I watched this movie in theatre, and agree that Mr. Gore did a remarkable job making a case for existance and emergency of climate crisis (nice rename too). There's also a short version of this talk he made before making the movie using the same slide shows in TED Conference:
Direct download link right click and save. - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Durendal is a hack.
Posting links from organizations sponsored by the fossil fuel industry. What an *****. - XZanatos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@Durendal
You are correct, now how about the REST of the story. The ice is melting everywhere else. Global warming increases the severity of the weather, wetter in some places, drier in others. The "ant"arctic may have increased a little but everywhere else it is still melting. There was a hole in the arctic ice sheet AT the North Pole just last year.
This is a great bit from your linked site "a sink of ocean mass sufficient to lower [authors' italics] global sea levels by 0.08 mm year". EXCEPT global sea levels have been RISING. Opps? I bet not. When people take a single fact and leave the rest of reality out of it its easy to "prove" anything.
"Facts", Mr jcarrion1976, is multiple. Durendal introduced only one. "Science" requires reproduceability and increasing ice mass is something you won't find being reproduced much anywhere. - curios, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6In the second movie, the part where he shows the earth as a distant blue dot, moved me.
- chaimpot0k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Sorry but CO2 levels over 300ppm in the atmosphere is not a GOOD thing. That isn't an inconvenience, it's the truth. Ask anyone who knows what they are talking about.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6AVI
http://vp.video.google.com/videodownload?version=0&secureurl=tgAAAPdmGZGLPSpcMtR_OWDBPsRm4o7lCjc_biLhmtVuVLwRLOMl37SCKhU6NaYfTPllcTPOjcKdUzkxKrMgGLDWK0_urTWtviMScjbakhQfXYWdfNVK36DU7sF1-Mp3SGJMYvZiYJ8OuVWlzB09B7zgvXcs7Aj_Vx-Pn23C0LpywTJMzOt8UibGf2UvCis48gI746EwDZMfmonwtD0OFMCdm7FNSfJBmYcuPzupdZsLMXZUm17EDNjbjUv7NyldMug-Ew&sigh=RyJLpNjvV2-Xds9TBS0oQu-d75I&begin=0&len=5811100&docid=8893480206836468330 - shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6i wish he had become president....
- knaps, on 10/12/2007, -10/+15I admit that I haven't seen the movie (yet), but before I go in and watch it -- this is my mindset:
The earth is over 4 billion years old. The oldest record of conditions that we as humans have is an ice-core dating back maybe 600,000 years. There's a very, VERY large chunk of our planet's history that we don't know ANYTHING about.
30 years ago, scientists were flipping out because they thought that the Earth was entering a second Ice-Age. They thought that global cooling was happening.
Since 1850, we've put about 100 billion tons of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere, that number rises by about 7 billion tons each year. Volcanoes and decaying plants send 200 billion tons of it to the atmosphere every year. Once again, we don't have a proper view of the rest of earth's history, so our measly 100 billion tons of CO2 might not even be a drop in the bucket as far as earth's history is concerned.
Also, look into the earth's "carbon cycle". Smaller scaled versions of what we're experiencing now have happened in the earth's distant past -- without human contribution. Keep that in mind.
Yes, I know that we as humans have a duty to protect our earth. I am for every environmental conservative and preventative measure taken by humans to keep our wonderful green and blue marble healthy. But all this scare-mongering isn't helpful, it's just energy wasted in the wrong place.
Al Gore is great, by the way. My predisposition has absolutely nothing to do with him. - ch28kid, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12I love this movie
kickass...
must watch. - zqudlyba, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10He's one of the BOARD MEMBERS of Apple !!!
- cowardlydragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7You're forgetting the jedi mind trick of the American Empire:
Television. There is no global warming. Don't worry be happy spend - WaterDragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I've heard that it is an awesome film.
Strangely, the three of four times I downloaded it using bit torrent, in every case,some idiot had substituted something else -- either a noise file, or some really stupid, perverted B-movie in its place.
(It was actually the second time I was tricked into downloading some garbage called
"Gay Ni**ers from Space.")
It seems strange that a movie about environmental concerns could possibly get such a bad treatment, just because of the blind bigotry of a few morons.
I had to give up on downloading it with bit torrent.
Finally, now I will get to watch it.
...And I learned, and simply changed the settings of U-torrent, to get the beginning files with priority, so I can watch a partially downloaded file, to inspect it. - ApplCmptrDood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Here is the website that is mentioned at the end of the movie (I think in the credits).
http://climatecrisis.org/
It has all the info on the stuff us as a people can do :). - zeiben, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@ lovbush
Wow, I was hoping the list of republican response talking points would make their way here so I wouldn't have to search for them on the Fox news website... - georgemoore13, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Here are the links to the downloads
http://www.dailymotion.com/get/12/320x240/flv/1016017.flv?key=711e21eb3e8defd92ddbc522af14f5511281c26
http://www.dailymotion.com/get/12/320x240/flv/1016017.flv?key=711e21eb3e8defd92ddbc522af14f5511281c26 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You must be using really ***** tracker sites that don't allow comments where people will tell you if its real or not then.
In fact, you might almost be using limewire or something if you keep getting crap! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Just use the http://www.videodownloader.net plugin for FF.
- tellarite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Google Video version:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8893480206836468330 - sencha5, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Thank you Digg. I was going to try and get this off TPB, and here it is.
- curios, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i was too moved to notice.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"Especially if you enjoy propaganda."
You have any data to back that up or can you pull scientific conclusions out of your ass? Because all the peer reviewed literature I've seen, for years and years, backs up what he's saying.
So you either have the research to back up your mouth, or you're a ***** idiot. I have my suspicions that it's the later, but I'm willing to read anything you have that says global warming is propaganda. Anything peer reviewed, not a Free Republic blogger pulling data out of his ass.
I'd still put money on you being a retard, though. Red state product of too many people meeting their spouse at family reunions. - cowardlydragon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6You always post the same fake-folksy ***** on every environmental thread. You're far too diligent to be stupid and ignorant, so you must be paid to do this.
I hear the strippers in Texas are really hot, so it must be worth it. - guregu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4From Wikipedia:
CNN interview about role in Internet's creation:
On 1999-03-09, Wolf Blitzer had an interview with Gore on CNN's Late Edition. During this interview, Gore said,
"During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system."
This quote became the subject of heavy satire, often changing Gore's words to claim that he "invented the internet".
Cerf and Kahn response:
In response to this controversy, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Robert E. Kahn wrote an e-mail dated 2000-09-28, that stated:
[A]s the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.
Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective. - rhettnyedotorg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I think the most amazing factoid in all the amazing factoids in this movie is the one about the scientific articles about global warming vs. popular media articles on global warming.
928 peer-reviewed scientific articles, Percent in doubt as to cause: 0%
636 articles in popular press, percent in doubt as to cause: 53%
i love the part where he says it's unethical or immoral to allow this to continue.
this is exposing the ultimate in corruption.
We have to decrease our net carbon emissions. He says we know how to do this. The solutions include:
More efficient electricity-using appliances (end-users like us)
Other end-use efficiency (such as avoiding overpackaging, buying local, etc)
Passenger Vehicle efficiency
Other transport efficiency (commercial trucks, buses, trains, planes)
Renewables (wind, solar power instead of coal/CNG-fired plants)
Carbon Capture and Storage and Supply Efficiency (http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/postpn238.pdf)
We can do this! Lets focus on becoming carbon negative. we only have 50 years of life on earth left!!!! - LEDDY, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3amazing doc, seen it twice now! u rox al gore!
- zeiben, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Alright, when the caps melt, I say the blue state and red state residents have to swap real estate.
- xenoploid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2kirkio and Providence,
The parts of the movie dealing with President Gore's personal and political crises contain a common thread of the impact that tragedy can have on a person. It shows how through those events he has gained a larger perspective on the world to realize what truly matters: that we are all in this together. The problem of global warming has NOTHING to do with wanting your tax money back, or wanting a promotion, or wanting one political party to control the government....NONE OF THAT MATTERS when the life of everyone on this planet is on the line. - cowardlydragon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Wow, another willful deception from Durendal.
Yes, the volcanism of those periods were much higher, so the temps were higher. But since the changes occurred over thousands to millions of years, the ecosystems could adapt and maintain the various cycles.
But we're changing the world in a 150 years. So ecosystems can't adapt, and could fall apart, thus the catepillar-chick example. We're the equivalent of an asteroid strike in terms of species extinction, if you guys didn't know.
But then again, you probably have some articles that debunk evolution too. You're right, spontaneous generation will solve everything.
So, does oil executive penis really taste like strawberry? -
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