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- waynejkruse10, on 10/12/2007, -3/+69Leo Laporte will be happy.
- biofusion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+58Uh this "blog-spam *****" is actually the blog of a member on the Zune team...
- scott1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+55At least their not calling it wincasting
- zweben, on 10/12/2007, -5/+47Somehow I don't think beta mp3 players would fly too well with the general consumers.
- Dustyb, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32Since Microsoft isn't a Chinese company we like to call it "inspired".
- Phyltre, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28Really, though, how different can you make a convenient mp3-player with today's technology? The components dictate a certain shape, portability determines possible size, and pre-existing filetypes determine most functionality. Walk the aisle of your local mp3-player section to see this in action.
Also: it took Apple a lot of changes to get where they are today. Would you rather other mp3-player makers just ignore their lessons learned? That's not how industries operate. - thelastknowngod, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24microsoft realizes that podcast is just a word. i dont know why leo just cant let it go. the people who dont understand you dont need an ipod to listen are not going to understand no matter what you call it.
- rodrigo74, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Actually Leo DID let it go, and quite early. People is making it look like he has some kind of deep attachment to this whole "netcast" debate, like RMS with GNU/Linux, but Leo made it very clear that he actually doesn't care so much either, it was just something he wanted to discuss with the community, and IMO it was a valid discussion, in face of the legal actions Apple was taking to protect their trademarks.
Let's not make it sound some kind of religious war that never happened. - consonance, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25This made me smile. Google starts a project and then puts it in beta for two years. Microsoft starts a project and ships it 9 months later.
- neoform, on 10/12/2007, -22/+36posted more than 24 hours ago.. and makes it to the frontpage with 26 diggs?
Golly, this new system must be fantastic.. - the_snitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I think its a good thing that they refer to them as podcasts too - I mean its a cemented term now, and it makes no sense to start throwing around another word just for the hell of it.
Its better when theres only one word because then you know what the hell you are talking about when you mention it to someone.
To quote Alex/Kevin:
"You host a netcast? What, is that like fishing or something.." - turpenine, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19the fact that it is 10 months is a BAD thing.
- spudnic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Let's be honest, there's really not that much you can actually do to make an MP3 player differant.
However they have added that wifi transfer thingamy, which is (as far as I'm aware) unique
Apple popularised MP3 players, it amazes me how many people somehow make the jump from that to thinking Apple were the first people to make them
I own an Ipod nano, not because I thought it had better features or a better price than the competition, but because it's small and sexy, simple as that - grzelakc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Good for Microsoft because I will not switch to a different player unless they have good support for podcasts (at least on par with the iPod/iTunes combo).
- superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13A bigger screen would only be a huge plus if it had more pixels. I think bigger screens that simply enlarge pixels end up looking kind of cheap next to devices with denser screens, even if they are smaller.
- inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Yadda yadda... there are hypocrites on both sides of the fanboy divide, in case you didn't notice.
Let's see, as a Mac user I've been subjected to the whole "Windows is best because a majority of people choose it" argument for years... which seems to have disappeared lately when it comes to iPods vs. the competition. Now why would that be?
Pointing this stuff out is like shooting fish in a barrel. Not really worth the effort making a fuss over it, is it? - superkendall, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13The screen has exactly the same number of pixels as an iPod screen, it just makes them larger. That's really not that much better.
If it had a 640x480 screen, now, that would be a different story. Given they can't really beat the iPod on price they should have made at least one aspect of it obviously superior even if it cost a bit more. - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16Zune is just new software and colors for a hardware platform that already existed (a Toshiba product).
10 months is less impressive when you look at it that way. - dmoney06, on 10/12/2007, -10/+20"We'll ship podcasting"
WTF does that even mean? - garethevans, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I'd bet money that they considered calling it "Live casting".
- colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8"And, the Zune has a better software updater. I’m already hearing that within a few days of release in mid-November that there will already be some new features released.
That’s something Apple should worry about. If Microsoft can upgrade all of its Zune players easily with new features and games and such, then they can build experiences that the iPod can’t easily get (and if third-party developers can play there, watch out. Remember 1989? I thought the Macintosh was superior to Windows. Which one ended up with more market share? The ones that the developers could extend the easiest."
I'm not sure I get what he's talking about here. A software updater is a software updater. I fail to see how Microsoft could do a better one. Apple in the past shipped out software updates to support new formats and support podcasts. I don't see how one could beat the other in this arena.
And he worries about Microsoft opening up the platform for 3rd party developers to bring games to the Zune? Sorry, Apple's already done that with the iPod. Microsoft would simply be playing catch up if they did that. - timmay, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I find it funny some people dont think this will make it. my local EB Games has 13 people that have already paid off there pre order. thats just one out of 6 EB Games in my town. The Zune may not go full blast with sells but it will do better then most other competitors to the Ipod.
- clempka, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I'm not sure why people go for subscription music services. Sure you get all the music you want, but you can't keep it after you quit paying the subscription. I suppose it's good for MS that they're offering both subscription and purchase based options (unless I'm wrong about that for some reason). I still say CD's are the way to go though, at least the not DRM-crippled CD's anyway.
edit: Or were you talking about podcast subscriptions? Because iTunes already has that. - praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+8Move your pinky an inch to the left and press down.
- tito13kfm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I pay $42/month for that thing right now.. It's called internet access.
Oh wait.. you meant legally... - zip22, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12i don't necessarily agree with the end of your rant, but i do agree with the first part. 10 months is a long time for simply building off the gigabeat s. from what i've seen, its slightly different UI, a bigger screen, and wifi. not too impressive.
- kalidav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It would be stupid of them to use anything OTHER than podcasting.
- lopla, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8funny, just yesterday analysts were saying the new iPod shuffle was to be the top selling mp3 player yet. pretty good for poor innovation lol.
- turpenine, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Well nowadays most people think an ipod is different than an Mp3 player.
So I think they should call it the Zune iPod. So people know it plays music and junk. - Bansuri, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9But really, we all need to pitch in and stop with the whole /start /stop crap.
It was funny the first time, years ago, but it has to stop now. Really. Just stop.
We're all leet here, we've all coded something or another. Now just stop. We don't have to show our badges at the door anymore. It's cool. - salmonmoose, on 10/12/2007, -0/+73000 songs on a 4 gig player? at what? 64kbs? I guess it explains why you're 'shouting' as you're obviously deaf :)
- Aleman360, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13I was at Microsoft's offices on Friday (Millenium D, if you're familiar with the campus ;) ) and got to mess around with one... if it weren't for the battery life, I'd definitely buy one over an iPod. It's lightweight and feels very durable... the plastic case is matte and seemed pretty scratch resistant compared to the glossy finish + chrome on the regular iPods. The screen is pretty nice but only 320x240. UI has lots of nice eye candy.
- rolf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Well I'm glad MS didn't come up with their own term, it's bad enough that someone can "squirt" me with a Zune...
- Demagogue, on 10/12/2007, -12/+17How can you declare it a complete failure when it hasnt even come out yet?
The only reason you hate it is because its not made by Apple and looks like everything Apple. - falcon1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Haven't they been in the hardware business for a while? I have always found Microsoft hardware to actually be quite good. I look forward to seeing how the Zune will play out...
- RickySan65, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"Wow, Apple has been getting "out of hand lately"? What in the name"
They have, sueing people left, right and center for using the word pod anywhere. Mod me down all you want, but the fact is that Apple is behaving like a spoiled child that's not getting enough attention. - macniatic, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10The PPC -> Intel transition was software and hardware. Both software versions have the same features. If Microsoft have done this transition, it would have taken longer, and the Intel version would be incomplete.
They could not even finish what they promised for Vista, and Podcasting for Zune.
Microsoft is a failure because they are a lot bigger than Apple, and have a lot more resources, still they make crappy products. - GoodBrain, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Microsoft has been playing with the whole personal media player thing for how long? A lot longer than 9 months. It's been, what, a year since they put WinCE on personal media players, and even longer since they started playing in the space with WMA DRM and "plays for sure"
It's taken them 9 months since settling on this latest strategy, which, even being generous, is a v2 on a 2-3 year old initiative. I'm sure that seems like quite an achievement in the bureaucracy of Microsoft, I doubt Microsoft has moved that quickly on anything in nearly a decade, but it's not that impressive outside that bubble. - Bansuri, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10It looks neat, but I have a horrible feeling that once you let MS have anything to do with your "media licenses" it's all over.
I love my xbox, xbox 360, 2 XP boxes, but there's no way in hell I'll give up my ipod. Apple did it right, and for my ripped CDs the Apple DRM has no effect. God, I hate to say it, but I just don't trust Microsoft anymore. - NicP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Not if we have to pay $100 forever to keep access to all the media we downloaded
- cleverboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Competition will be GREAT for the marketplace. Apple can't keep spanking everyone else forever. Someone had to come along and present an at least "credible" competitor that isn't simply an "also ran" to the as yet uncontested iPod experience.
- pkulak, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11I'm totally getting one too! Although I may hold out until someone makes a player that also supports podcasting, for the same price, but that has a music store with a better selection plus tv shows and movies, and is smaller, and with a simpler UI and more aftermarket stuff for me to buy. Oh, and I'll need better battery life and some kind of assurance that the music I buy will be supported later since Microsoft has proven that they are more then willing to abandon Plays For Sure. It's a long shot, but it's possible that someone will make a better player then the Zune someday.
- pkulak, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8@macniatic
It's called a joke. Now available in the comment above yours. ;) - jessecollins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"We'll ship podcasting"
WTF does that even mean?
Seriously, what the hell does that mean? I will tell you, that Microsoft has some bright people working for them. - Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4FFS Stfu if u shout one more time im gonna... cyberkill you o0o :/
Sorry for that guys, anyways, i still i haven't figured this one out, will i be able to play 'non-zune' content on the zune? Like music from cd's i already have? - JeffD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'll give you one point, the name does suck. Almost enough to make me not want one.
- Escamillo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Nor was podcasting, itself.
- uptown, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Actually Leo DID let it go, and quite early."
And by letting it go, you mean tagging the beginning of each of his podcasts with the "netcasts you love, from people you trust" soundbyte? Right. - spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8i'm glad microsoft is standing up to apple. they've been getting out of hand lately.
- ShadowPt2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not to mention this isn't even the actual Zune: it's an OEM Toshiba MP3 player they're branding as such, since the actual Zune series isn't ready to ship and won't be until next year.
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