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- glue, on 10/22/2009, -0/+35The only problem with touchscreens is that they only encourage people to TOUCH THE SCREEN. You can use the computer but keep your grubby little fingers off my monitor.
- cawfee, on 10/22/2009, -0/+9So we can all feel like using an airport internet kiosk at home!
- Hayley3AM, on 10/22/2009, -0/+7plus i think it'd be awkward to touch a computer screen. maybe that's just me.
- randall311, on 10/22/2009, -0/+6it would be nice to have a wall mounted monitor for a media pc that you could just use as a juke box in your kitchen or something. There are some uses for the touch, but as a regular desktop it might be annoying.
- JQP123, on 10/22/2009, -1/+7It's awkward in a typical multi-unit (KVM) desktop setup. Keeping your arms outstretched toward the monitor all day would be tiring.
But make the computer a single portable unit (as in a tablet) or handheld and the awkwardness goes away. Tablet PCs have been on the drawing board for a long time. Multi-touch will finally make them practical and they could eventually displace the typical desktop setup that we know today. - inactive, on 10/22/2009, -2/+6I don't understand why companies keep pushing touchscreens. It is tolerable on a phone but it drives me crazy when I'm trying to look at a computer screen with fingerprints on it. Tablet pc's bombed so why should touching your screen with your fingers be any more popular?
Just thinking about it makes me irritated. The reflectivity of the oil from lights in the room, the greyness when it is streaked across the picture, the dullness of the picture when the constant touching degrades the surface... It is annoying and disgusting. - Cyberdactyl, on 10/22/2009, -0/+4I'm somewhat stunned anyone that has actually played with both the Hero and the Pre' would conclude the Hero is even equal to the Pre', let alone "a lot better".
The Hero is very sluggish. Android just isn't there. It's big and boxy. It's basic GUI is old-school. However, it DOES offer crude and grainy 352 x 288 video recording capability while the Pre' doesn't.
But to each his own I suppose. - cfuse, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3Those horrid super reflective LCD screens that are all the rage make it a million times worse. Sure, shiny is pretty until you have to live with it.
- woodrail, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3I see the draftboard setup. I also see "canvas on an easel", "notepad in yr hand", "scrap of paper in yr palm", "scrap of paper glued to yr skin", "8 1/2 x 11 clipboard thingy"
- cfuse, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3I cannot agree more fully. If some pratt is forcing me to wipe their filthy leavings from my screen, then wiping their arterial blood off as well is hardly more effort in my opinion.
Psychopathy aside, touchscreens will be acceptable to me when they have nanocoatings similar to teflon - I want the filth to stick to the hand that brought it. - Myztry, on 10/22/2009, -1/+4The best thing about the release of LCD display was being able to push the screen back and reclaim some of that desk space. I can't even reach my screen without leaning forward and that's the way I like it.
Desktops aren't like handheld devices where rather large forearm muscles are powering rather small fingers. I'll leave the two arm 'zombie touch' to the suckers who want to be pulled in by impractical "me too" gimmicks. - dirtyword, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3It would definitely make more sense if the screen were sitting on the desk, nearly flat, and angled toward you slightly, kind of like a drafting table.
- the8thbit, on 10/22/2009, -0/+3And how would that be in any way better than using a mouse? This makes sense, perhaps, on a laptop, where the display can be rotated around and folded backwards, so that it's much like writing on a piece of paper or a book, however, with a desktop you have to outstretch your arms so that they can reach the display. Not only is this awkward and uncomfortable, it's physically exhausting when done for long periods of time, and would be much less precise and quick than just using a mouse. You would also obscure sections of the display with your arms and hands, and leave smudges on the display. Smudges aren't so bad with a laptop or a phone, where you can simply wipe them off with your sleeve, but with a desktop they can be a hassle.
"A differentiating factor is that I don't have a 1GB video card in my laptop or my phone."
But... you could if you wanted to... at least in your laptop. And even if you couldn't, it's not like there's a game that exists that even close to requires a 1GB video card to play, nor does any of the editing software you mentioned. - the8thbit, on 10/22/2009, -1/+3"The answer is not to abandon the technology"
It is in desktops. I mean, seriously, desktop touch screens are completely useless.
Laptops and phones are a different story, though. - RachelJTM, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2i think these are just a fad.
- JQP123, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2Or ... just make the computer a tablet and angle it anyway you want ... lean back in your chair and hold it like a book.
- mttyd, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2This article was pretty bunk and had limited detail. I would have liked to see a larger comparison for each category rather than a best of show. Since the dialog has been opened; Anyone have suggestions for an "industrial use" touch screen monitor or monitor PC combo? I'm looking for something (pref. cheap) with no system fans. Even a thin client will do as I'm just linking it up to a web app. I've found some ideas but I'm amazed there isn't more rugged touch screen offerings out there.
- inactive, on 10/22/2009, -1/+3If you want a tablet pc there are tons of them on ebay that can be bought for a couple hundred bucks. They were overproduced a couple years ago, nobody bought them and nobody wants them so they are cheap.
- WhiskeyLemur, on 10/22/2009, -0/+2Plus - come on, $1600 for an HP? Not that I have anything against HPs: my laptop and netbooks are both HP and they're solid, reliable - AND VERY REASONABLY-PRICED for their specs. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that most people who are wiling to dish out $1600 for a machine with 4 gigs of ram and a slick look are *probably* going to be getting a Mac. People who buy HPs tend to look for some function of specs and price; aesthetics aren't really a factor. It's just a different approach to the concept of "what do I need from my machine?"
- Twinnie, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1I think MS had the kitchen as the first stop for Surface when it eventually hits people's homes.
- Cyberdactyl, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1Where is the Palm Pre'?
Easily as sweet as the iPhone, for less than half the initial purchase price AND almost half the monthly fee for the full data plan. - theonlywizdum, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1Why is there no Archos?
- element4life3, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1The HTC Hero on Sprint is a lot better than the palm Pre, and with Sense UI it blows the current offerings of Android out of the water...at least for the time being. I would have like to at least see one Android phone on that list...
- SmpleJohn, on 10/22/2009, -1/+2It's perfect for a display kiosk setup.
- scottc, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1I'm tempted by that HP. It would double as a tv for me since I could hook cable up to it - we only have one lcd tv and sometimes I move it to my office to watch sports while working, but my wife doesn't like that much. If I can watch from the dvr on half the screen while working on the other half I'll probably get this. I was considering spending $1000 on just the tv, so once this is available at less than list price it probably won't be a bad deal.
I've avoided HP for years, but they do seem to be the leader in desktop touch screens. - TheInformer, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1I'm scared to think of what the user's hands were doing before the screen was touched.
- matt.rubin, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1its not tubes, it more like a dump truck
- comfortablydrei, on 10/28/2009, -0/+1why did you get buried?
- JQP123, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1"Psychopathy aside, touchscreens will be acceptable to me when they have nanocoatings similar to teflon - I want the filth to stick to the hand that brought it."
Easy solution --- carry your touchscreen with you --- in the form of a tablet computer. This way, the only "filth" will be your own.
Most of the negative comments here reflect a view of touch as a desktop add-on. Touch (and particularly multi-touch) is more likely to touch off (pun intended) a replacement of desktop and laptop computers ... by tablet PCs. - HonoredMule, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1I thought it was the coffee table.
- DarkSpoon, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1i think a nice large touch screen would be pretty badass mounted IN your desk. the screen would be the top of your desk and it could rotate and tilt to your liking. that way its right there at normal hand height for a keyboard but you also aren't losing any desk space by have a monitor a foot from your face.
- bradleyland, on 10/22/2009, -0/+1Touchscreens, when combined with a UI that was designed for a mouse, just plain suck.
- cfuse, on 10/23/2009, -0/+1@JQP123
I never touch screens - why in the hell would you think that oil and crud from my hands would be any more acceptable than that of others?
The complaint is as it has always been - I don't want to be staring at a filthy screen. - AndrewMoyer, on 10/22/2009, -1/+1Multi-touch + Wacom hybrid displays are the future.
- zombiecarlin, on 10/22/2009, -2/+2***** ARTICLE, but who would expect anything less from pcmag.com? ***** waste of Internet tubes.
- Hayley3AM, on 10/22/2009, -2/+2it would be good exercise though ;-). I'll be interested to try a tablet unit. If it's anything like my iPhone, I'll fall in love!
- Hayley3AM, on 10/22/2009, -3/+2wow, already in love!
- AndrewMoyer, on 10/22/2009, -2/+1I can think of plenty of applications where a touch screen would be useful on a desktop.
Media production and video games are two huge categories. Imagine eliminating a slew of MIDI controllers for Logic or Cubase... or the video scrubber in any video editor. Imagine Starcraft with a multi-touch interface.
A differentiating factor is that I don't have a 1GB video card in my laptop or my phone. - JQP123, on 10/22/2009, -3/+2"They were overproduced a couple years ago, nobody bought them and nobody wants them so they are cheap."
Nobody wants a tablet produced a few years ago because the user interface was just kinda copied from the desktop and frankly, just sorta sucked. Multi-touch will change this. - JQP123, on 10/22/2009, -2/+1Apple has one ready for release, MS is working on one (which will probably mark their official entry into the PC hardware market).
http://gizmodo.com/5365299/ - JQP123, on 10/22/2009, -6/+4The "tablet" is the PC form factor of the future.
Yes, I know, it's been done already and it pretty much failed. What's different now is multi-touch ... and improved handwriting recognition. - AndrewMoyer, on 10/22/2009, -7/+2Just wash your hands once in a while, and use a screen with an oleophobic coating. The answer is not to abandon the technology, but to improve upon it. The screens will get better at resisting oils. They've made dramatic improvements with this in recent years.
I guess it's not for everybody. Where touch screen's really shine is when multiple people are interacting on a single computer -- instead of saying, "click here", I just touch the screen. I'd never think about using a touch screen for handwriting recognition or precise mouse-work (in the absence a pen), unless I didn't have a keyboard/mouse available, and nobody's saying we should throw them out just yet, but I'll be damned if I don't embrace a novel --and often times useful-- input method. - namslam, on 10/21/2009, -11/+1If it's not touchscreen, I DONT EVEN WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRR
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