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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -14/+44What a dumb article. Not even that funny.
- wild, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Wow. I have been way overcharging my clients on the outer glow.
Dont tell them that,,, - nthitz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24It's a joke...
- ringo380, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23Pretty funny, but I was hoping that this would be a serious article.
And for those ARE taking this seriously: you shouldn't be. - optimo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+30This sucked.
- Domiko, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18Yes, I do! And you can't have them back!
Muahahahhaahhahahahahaa! - kitwaites, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Web design is easy to price. Decide how much you are worth per hour (e.g. I usually charge £60, so about $115/hour), work out how many hours the job will take, add another 2 hours to make tea etc, then give that as a final price to the client.
Never tell them your per hour price though - they'll realise you earn more than them and think it's expensive. Tell them your per hour price after you've finished the site and they come back to you for updates etc :-p. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Add $1,000,000 if they tell you that this will be good for your portfolio and that you should be happy you got to make website for them.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16What a stupid digg entry. Just goes to show how easy it is for certain people to get dugg...
Oh yea, no digg... - EarlPolliwog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I'd be more interested if this were "The 14-Point Exploding Heart Web Design Checklist"
- hellogoodbye, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Waste of time.
- sancho320, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I guess you've only been in the biz for a year or two, huh?
- wkilis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10"I don't know much about this website stuff..." $5000 KACHING
- gr8one, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I charge $35 an hour because I only do it part time, and my clients know that my real job and family take priority. I did hear that local people (professional full timers) were charging between $40 and $80. However, I think it's important to realize that not every second you spend on a project is billable time. If someone hires you to do a site that involves some php coding and you don't know what you're doing, they shouldn't have to pay for the time you spend learning how to write code. It's just like someone working on a car, there's a certain amount of non-work that happens while working on the car that's unethical to bill to the customer.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Of course it's a joke. Are you stupid?
- Mith, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Great list.. I think with the release of Vista, designers have a whole new standard to measure up against now :P
- delorie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8i have a sense of humor, this was lame
- gr8one, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Personally, I like charging an extra 100 for a "Logo" which usually consists of a glassy looking circle with a couple letters in it. You can't go wrong with the circle and letters.
- Th0Rr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Usually a good solid bury "this is lame" would suffice, but yeah this sucks. I wish I could bury this as "completely worthless digg bait and i feel dumber for having read it."
- Padwah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@resplence: What doesn't make sense? Kitwaites charges £60/hour in the UK which works out at roughly $115/hour as the current exchange rate is 1.96 dollars to the pound.
- bradlyf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@wkills:
Obviously you do not run a successful business. Either that or you're going to out of business your first couple of years.
If there is one thing I have learned doing web design and development it's never change your rate based on your client. If you do you are setting your self up for problems once your client tells his cousin at easter dinner how he is paying $5,000 for a simple web site. Then you get to deal with your client asking you why you ripped him off.
Charge what you are worth. If you can't charge enough honestly to live comfortable, you are not good enough at what you do and should change careers.
-Bradly - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I think Resplence was thinking that people might charge like $150-$200 to do a professional website, which is why he thought maybe $11, not $110 was more reasonable.
The reality is you can barely get a really nice, truly professional site done for a midsize company for less than $5000. - smhill, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Buried as lame. There was one like this on the front page just a week or two ago only it was much funnier.
Digg is starting to become a lame forum. - Phoenix3d1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I just offer a service where they design the site themselves and pay me for it.
- Dudemullet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Not even funny.
I especially disliked this remark
"12) Add $25 if they need it coded - Then hire a teenager to do it for you." - hitmikey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6weakest articles reach the front page
- gr8one, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4even worse comments are left by others.
- DonCarcharo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"never change your rate based on your client."
I disagree. While you should have a fairly concrete set of prices to charge you can and should vary based on the client in certain cases. Here's a great example. I live in a poorer area and tend to do business within local markets. My hourly rate for these clients is in line with what the local market charges, certainly well below the national average. Well, back a few years ago I got an RFP (lead) from a company in a very large city. It was my first major urban client. These people were very impressed with my portfolio and wanted to work with me so I quickly submitted a proposal.
I lost the contract immediately after the proposal. Why? They flat out told me my price was too low and they were looking to work with a professional company. Apparently my bid was less than half of what three other shops bid and although they liked my portfolio the best, they opted to select another vendor.
So in certain cases you can and should vary your price. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yeah... i did web design for a while. if it was a charity organization, i did it for free; if it was a start-up, i did their websites for a couple hundred and some equity; if it was a full-blown company, i'd charge a bunch more.
- gr8one, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Just make sure your worth what you're charging though. If your rate is above $10 an hour and you're using frames, or embedded applets for links, you need to find a new job. There's a couple local firms here who charge ridiculous amounts, and do terrible design. They could be coded very well for all I know, but they look like they stole something from the year 2000 that had died, and brought it back to life.
- eorange, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://alistapart.com/ - One of the best out there.
- bootlick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The article hinted at some proper ways to price yourself, but I thought most people knew about them. I could make an actual post on pricing yourself if there's interest.
- wild, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Here you go:
http://designmeltdown.com/ - wild, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"But then I tend to underestimate jobs because I think templates and skeletons should be mostly free"
Yea, I know what you mean. Cars should totally be free, and you only need to pay for upgraded tires and air fresheners... - igeekout, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5my personal fav
6) Add $10 for every random vector you include - You can steal them from deviantArt if you can’t make your own. - theadvinci, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1The post was moved here: http://www.netbusinessblog.com/the-14-point-web-de ...
- AxeSwinger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I usually will find someone who charges $100 USD/hr. But then I tend to underestimate jobs because I think templates and skeletons should be mostly free and I'm only willing to pay for customization.
- AxeSwinger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know of any designer that writes from the ground up everyone I've ever met has a portfolio of templates and a library of code to begin a project. Those templates are similar to the tools a tradesmen carries. I would not hire an electrician, carpenter or plumber that expected me to buy him a set of tools to complete a job. There is no difference in my eyes. Why would a web designer expect someone to buy the same set of tools over and over again?
While, witty your comparison is wrong. Since, I can't buy a new car with recycled parts, that cost the manufacturer nothing to reuse, and are every bit as good newly manufactured parts. - mikehill33, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1LOL....totally.
- ellisgl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4From working in the web design / programming business - This guy is cheap. People look at this and go "He's so cheap there must be a problem." The last company I worked for did pages at $25 and then raised their rates per page to $75 more people called. Of course the rate for everthing else stayed the same. $45/hour on programming and MySQL and Flash... Yeah - a little low on that. Hell I used to charge $50/hour/person for anything done between 8am - 6pm.. Anything other than that $100/hour.
Of course I did get people working for me when I gave them $25/hour for normal time and $75/hour for after hours bitching that they wanted more money..
Whole thing comes down to is what you pay is what you get. I know us tech people will undercut ourselves and might not make what we should - we do care about the money - but we love what we do. But we should look at what are people willing to pay. If I say I can design a whole site for you graphics, programming and all for $100 or say $100,000 you screw your self out of business. To high to low. You have to find best rate that brings in the customers.
I could keep going on with the whole web design / programming business much long than this speil... But you get my view of the basic point. - syco123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3yep its a wallet size thing. I charged $2000 for 4 days design work which left me dancing My client sold it to his for $26,000 which left me stunned.
- digiroam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The best part was:
14) Add $5,000 if the client asks you what “Photoshop” is - The ignorant pay more.
It's elitist, but funny. - resplence, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Oh wow. I totally failed to see the £. I read both symbols as $.
So I thought he was saying "I usually charge $60 (per site), so about $115/hour". I was like... does he build a website in 25 minutes? - darkkmind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1bahahahhaha
Add $5,000 if the client asks you what “Photoshop” is - strong2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wow 1000$ for web 2.0 :D let start Ajaxing :DD
- starlord1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@mikehill33 Are you channelling Ze Frank ?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2who the ***** is digging this. you wankers
- bfaulk04, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I was hoping this would be serious. I've been wanting to find a good system for basing prices.
Letdown City - Population: Me - nakeddave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I think i'm going to use this list! except for i can do the coding instead of hiring someone else. much cheaper :)
- mikehill33, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2worst. article. ever.
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