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- noyurawk, on 07/13/2009, -1/+10Unless you're a professional PHP coder prepared to spend a few weeks working full time, making your own CMS would be an arduous task. Maybe a PHP (CodeIgniter, CakePHP, Symfony) framework would help speed up the process.
- tgc1, on 07/13/2009, -0/+8Yeah, I feel like i'm getting a few extra pounds around my waist as well. Such a bummer.
- badtiki, on 07/13/2009, -15/+23this is silly, I can break this down to 2 simple rules:
1) Go to drupal.org
2) Download Drupal
nuff said - tgc1, on 07/13/2009, -1/+8There is no such thing as a "perfect" CMS.
- Yarkz, on 07/13/2009, -4/+11I always feel WYSIWYG is very messy I would never use one...
- jsghagan, on 07/13/2009, -0/+6That's fine, but average users don't know html, so a WYSIWYG is great for them.
- inactive, on 07/13/2009, -4/+10These are very simple rules and agree with badtiki, use Drupal or Wordpress.
This post is like saying:
10 things to create a forest:
1- make it green
2- use trees
3- water them
:) - andregriffin, on 07/13/2009, -2/+7Step 3) Get the very simple Framework Theme if you want to make your own theme for Drupal: http://drupal.org/project/framework
/shameless plug - amccloud, on 07/13/2009, -0/+5Simple, Django. Sure it's not a "CMS", but in 15 minutes I can have exactly what I need for the project.
- amoeba, on 07/13/2009, -1/+6Do they waist time in spelling lessons also?, I guess not.
- JKAL, on 07/13/2009, -1/+6My Choice is to use the modx CMS framework, I've deployed sites using Joomla, Mambo, Drupal, Frog, and after finding modx, I've never looked back, it is light, handles multiple languages very easily and is very secure, also you can basically grab your raw CSS, html code and use it, with just a few place holders.
Drupal is also awesome, however it has a very steep learning curve and has some on going xss security issues, but my biggest complain is that is runs to a halt once you add all the essential and useful modules. I hope it improves with the new version, for now I'm stick with modx.
And I would not be calling wordpress a CMS,
Yes it can perform some tasks that CMS systems perform, but it is not a true CMS, it is a blogging system . (period) - lightningrod220, on 07/13/2009, -0/+5Don't use ExpressionEngine, unless you hate yourself. There's a problem with its core "EEcode" templating functionality. If you use it to write a conditional in one of your pages, such as {if something} {do whatever} {/if}, even if the "something" value returns false, the code within will still fire, including module code, database queries, whatever - it just won't display the contents of the conditional to you. So you won't have any idea why it's making those extra 2 dozen database queries, until you figure this out. It goes against the wisdom of every other programming environment out there, and is a really stupid way to operate. It pisses me off every time I think about it.
Don't use EE, period. There are plenty of better ones out there. - Rsulliv1, on 07/13/2009, -0/+4I always found
http://www.aiim.org/
to be a good resource on CMS as well as WCM information. This article only scrapes the surface on rules for choosing wcm such as workflow, revisioning, etc.
But it is awesome to see a nice tech article on digg. - Moralogic, on 07/13/2009, -0/+4It isn't that bad... Building one from scratch is not something I would say is for everyone though. A lot of needless work if an open source CMS does everything you need for you.
- sonofabiscuit, on 07/13/2009, -1/+4/s?
- matrixOp3r4t0r, on 07/13/2009, -1/+4I like these tips specially the one's below, makes perfect logic ;
4. The backend needs to be logical and well-organized.
5. The right CMS shouldn’t have a ton of extra functionality you’ll never use.
I use a couple of sites where I am using pre-made php cms's and they suck big time. I have always been thinking of getting hold of some skilled coders and getting it redone, but the way I want it, I am sure would cost me like crazy. - webitol, on 07/13/2009, -0/+3None of the CMS in the list meet these requirements (apart wysiwyg). Some very popular CMS are missing (e107, modX, see also the list of popular CMS: http://www.scriptol.com/cms/popularity.php
According to my experience with CMS, you must have all the info about them to choose the best for your need, but you never can have it. For example, Drupal does not update anything on the site without a cron service configured on the server, but I never see that in any of these articles about CMS.
And also to choose a CMS you have to know if the code is easy to read, to understand, to change but you have never the info. - esc27, on 07/13/2009, -0/+3Am I the only person that hates TinyMCE? Last time I tested a selection of CMS's, nearly every single one used this same WYSIWYG editor which I find simultaneously overcomplicated and lacking in features.
- Yarkz, on 07/13/2009, -0/+3One thing that is easy for average users and looks good in html though is bbcode, only a few things even use it though.
- krisrm, on 07/13/2009, -0/+2No, you're not alone; I always install and use JCE over TinyMCE when using Joomla :)
- keyo, on 07/13/2009, -0/+2Joomla is a piece of crap, Drupal is much better.
- sonofabiscuit, on 07/13/2009, -4/+6Rule #11: Make your own ***** CMS, you lazy *****!
- vampireboyy, on 07/13/2009, -2/+3Joomla, hands down for me.
Wordpress is a blogging system. That's it. - kd1s, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1What? No Plone/Zope? I've got a hell of a lot of experience with Plone and yes, it's not for the faint of heart but a great CMS.
- MWeather, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1Actually, Django with flat pages is a (albeit basic) CMS, and it can be put together in about 10 minutes.
- lonniebiz, on 07/14/2009, -0/+1This it the best CMS comparison article I've seen so far. Thank you.
- rabidgoose, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1I have done consulting for several institutions and found www.cmsmatrix.org a really good source for feature comparison between all the different CMS apps out there.
- MtheoryX, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1A framework like CI does speed up the process; however, you're still reinventing the wheel and wasting resources.
- jschrab, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1Tip 5 "The right CMS shouldn’t have a ton of extra functionality you’ll never use" really plays well with Drupal's module system. If you don't need it, don't install/enable it. But if you find you need more (and what website DOESN'T have it's needs grow over time), the library of modules available for Drupal is amazing.
Still, looking over the shoulders of what others are doing is also worthwhile; I liked the list of other CMS's brought up in this article, just to keep up with what else is out there. - SuedePudding, on 07/13/2009, -1/+2Drupal doesn't update its search index until after a cron run. Other drupal module's might set up there crud during a cron run..most wont. Need a field that has just been entered for a node? It will be there..unless your module or your custom code is telling it not to be until a cron run... ..........Thats a long way from not updating anything.
- augcast, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1Amen, to that :)
- kojot350, on 07/13/2009, -0/+11) Write your own
2) Save time and money on 'don't have to rewrite it from scratch to get it to work and scale'
????
PROFIT - tristanoneil, on 07/16/2009, -0/+1I love the framework theme I've started using it for all of my Drupal projects.
- KWeasel, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1You'll be surprised how many people could get that wrong.
- MtheoryX, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1I've heard this complaint about Wordpress, and I'm inclined to agree.
That said, what particular CMS features is it lacking? - MtheoryX, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1>Do they waist time in spelling lessons also?, I guess not.
>also?, I guess not.
>?,
O RLY? - etx313, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1Drupal rules.
- RonnieSan, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1Building a Custom CMS is the only way you'll ever get close to having the "perfect" CMS for your project. Every other CMS is built to fulfill the needs of a varying array of users and so each will have features that are lacking or not needed. From my experience, I feel the main problem with most CMSs is that you have to adapt YOUR code to the CMS instead of vice versa. A CMS should seemlessly integrate with whatever code you create.
- acitodg, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1I agree that choosing a CMS can save/waste a lot of time of your writers. If possible to put the up front time in, building one could be the best option.
- keyo, on 07/13/2009, -0/+1I see a lot of comments about building your own cms. With Drupal you can practically do this and create your own admin pages for managing content. You can override just about any form or page with a module.
- kojot350, on 07/13/2009, -1/+1There is no such a thing as "professional PHP coder", your are professional or a PHP coder - never both ;P
- calvintennant, on 07/22/2009, -0/+0What the hell. Drupal at nine. This is *****.
- temaatik, on 07/16/2009, -0/+0There is one more...from little place called Estonia comes Saurus CMS...this is truly cool and usable cms for editors and developers.
Its simple but really powerful. I use it i love it.
Source code isnt free but it has fully customizable API layer.
99% developers edits api and plugins not source code
Check it out @ www.saurus.info - DejanMitov, on 07/14/2009, -0/+0It's a pity that WebStudio is not on the list. Just have a look at the tour and enjoy ... http://www.reason4web.com/Docs/Video%20Tour/defaul ...
- rabidgoose, on 07/13/2009, -0/+0Excellent point about WP. It's very extensible with plugins galore, but it is not technically a CMS and (thank God) doesn't try to hard to be a CMS. The publishers have stuck to their core model - a very solid blogging platform - while letting developers go nuts with extensions.
Too many programs these days try to be jacks of all trades. - modestmessages, on 07/15/2009, -0/+0We all have our preferences, but I'm not sure how *anyone* can support Joomla!
- temaatik, on 07/16/2009, -0/+0CMS (content management system)
it doesnt matter if you manage articles, images, blog, forums...its all "content" :) - rumblepup, on 07/13/2009, -4/+3Wordpress is a lot more than just a blogging platform. In the hands of someone who knows what they are doing, WP rocks.
- josepablos, on 07/13/2009, -6/+5is strange to see this kind of article in the front page!--
- TheHortonGroup, on 07/13/2009, -1/+0We Love Drupal! http://www.hortongroup.com/
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