dashes.com —"..we don't have much beyond copy and paste right now. If I want to put a NumSum or JotSpot spreadsheet into a Writeboard document, I basically can't do it..."
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I don't know about "numsum" or whatever, but in general, there are very few things you can't directly copy and paste AND retain their entire formatting on OS X. In fact, when I sit down in front of my Windows box, I often try to drag and drop or copy and paste things that I'm used to being able to do on OS X only to find myself frustrated because I can't drag it over into the other application at all or it gets totally munged in the process.
Also, OS X has plenty of awesome copy/paste/clip doodads you can install from various third-parties that enhance the ability and experience greatly.
i find that copy and paste works well for almost everything i use on a regular basis. but, it would be awesome for it to work on everything. I liked it, but howd it get front page with only 28 diggs?
Like the article, how about graphical pipes. Right click a text box, say in your web browser and click "Pipe This" then you choose an output of another application for a continuous pipe's input - one that doesn't mean you have to continually recopy and paste?
Wow right to OS X can do this OS X can do that junk. Why does it matter if OS X can do it? People will not look at your comment and say "I should switch to OS X"! WHY do people care what other people use? Just use what you like, you dont need to advertise it all over the internet! You gain nothing from it, just waste your time.
Isn't this the same sort of thing that XML was supposed to provide. Data independance? We can do better.
Ideally we need to come up with a few standard XML formats to store data and a few standard viewer widgets that all browsers (or maybe sites?) should have some type of renderer for.
Who comes up with the standards though? The W3C? Too slow. If anything i think the like minds of the blogging / web 2.0 world should try and implement some standard widgets based on a standard xml data type (similar to rss) so we can copy and paste between webapps.
Someone really should be able to paste a leightweight chart in their digg comments.
(I mentioned the term web2.0, it's mod-down time right?)
Um, I love Kevin like everyone else, but uhhhh, what was the point of this post?
I mean Anil never really comes to a fundamental conclusion and seems to just ramble on about being disappointed with the current state of Copy & Paste.
An example of the inconclusive rambling below:
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"But the battle for office app supremacy on the desktop may have actually been a fight instead of a rout if all the also-rans had added up to something more than the sum of their parts."
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What in the hell???
Copy and Paste continues to function as it ever has and continues to be a heavily used aspect of daily computing. This post may have called for the 'Reinventing of Copy & Paste' in its title but falls way short by failing to present any new ideas, fresh thinking, or even some concrete clues as to why it was written.
I feel cheapened for having spent time reading this.
Sorry Kev, maybe I completely missed the point, but I can't digg it.
I think a lot of people around this thread aren't getting it. This isn't just copy & paste with bits of text. Yeah, duh, that works cross platform - even on OS X. And you even get fonts sometimes!
No, this is copy & paste of structured data between disparate web apps. It works on the desktop just fine, thanks to years and years of work. Try copying from Excel and pasting into Word - you get fonts and even table structure. Try copying an address book entry between two different web apps in two different browsers. Can't do it. Or can you? [1]
Imagine copying hAtom [2] entries straight from a blog and re-blogging [3] them to a new blog with a simple paste action.
this was tried before and it failed. we had OLE from MS and we had openDOC which was supposed to be x-platform. the both sucked and nobody adopted them...