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One in four government websites illegal (UK)

telegraph.co.uk — One in four Government databases are illegal under human rights or data protection and should be scrapped immediately, a panel of experts have warned.

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  • thecosmicpope, on 03/23/2009, -2/+74Website =/= Database
  • Harboggles, on 03/23/2009, -2/+47Big brother is becoming more and more accountable thanks to the internet. Keep it up.
  • CasinoJack, on 03/23/2009, -1/+45≠ == !=
    =/= ≈ ≠
    ∴ =/= ≈ !=
  • sublimemm, on 03/23/2009, -5/+33=/= != !=
  • thinboyslim, on 03/23/2009, -0/+25This is what happens when you put high risk databases in the hands of idiots. Can't believe here in the UK the government is gearing up for a national ID cards system linked into biometric databases when they can't even handle the secure transfer of data from one site to another.
  • dizzythegreat, on 03/23/2009, -0/+13*head asplode*
  • strictnein, on 03/23/2009, -2/+13Where does =/= come from anyways? I find it amazingly annoying. Is it in some programming language I don't use, or is people trying to replicate a crossed out equal sign? Is it for people who can't quite figure out what != means?
  • NorthAtlantic, on 03/23/2009, -0/+11Something has to be done about this country before it's too late. They invade our privacy on a daily basis in the name of Terrorism.
  • bryano, on 03/23/2009, -0/+10Um, the guardian and the daily mail are pretty damn far apart in terms of political leaning, and the guardian is considered a 'quality' broadsheet, unlike the mail which is utter bollocks, so you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
  • Sublex, on 03/23/2009, -1/+10Big Brother is watching.
  • Janinco, on 03/23/2009, -3/+12Thanks for posting!
  • shifty2, on 03/23/2009, -1/+9And you wonder why a lot of other countries hate the US.

    thanks for further proving their point.
  • borez, on 03/23/2009, -1/+8We may not see an ID card, my mate runs the No 2 ID campaign and he was telling me last week that the organisation is making some great headway by lobbying the commons and completely disrupting the first ID card roll out ( For airline staff ) with the help from their respective Unions, which have the full support of all staff to basically tell the government to ***** off or they'll strike and cause massive disruption within the industry.

    Nobody likes it when airports don't function, but if puts a stop to ID cards, I don't think many people will complain. And if it works with the airline industry, they're is no reason other unions in other industries can't get behind it too.

    Personally I'd love to see a national strike basically telling the government to go ***** itself over ID cards that, let's face it, nobody wants.

    Enough already.

    Your support here: http://www.no2id.net/
  • Ender008, on 03/23/2009, -1/+7I'm an American and I dugg you down.
  • dfross, on 03/23/2009, -0/+6=/= is an ascii equivalent of the original mathematical symbol for "not equals", an equals sign with a diagonal line through it. It's nothing to do with any programming language.
  • Solkre, on 03/23/2009, -0/+6I want to click because it says fapturbo, but I can't on principle, dammit!
  • thinboyslim, on 03/23/2009, -0/+5Here's the full report: http://www.jrrt.org.uk/uploads/Database%20State.pd ...
  • tomjowitt, on 03/23/2009, -0/+5The UK have had two massive ***** with high profile databases recently. The NHS and Criminal databases have cost the taxpayer billions due to bad planning and amateur mistakes. These systems are hated by both the IT experts and the people that are going to be using them resulting in threats of mass boycotts by Healthcare staff among others.

    The government doesn't seem to care and continues to push forward with no idea what they're doing. Just another example of New Labour sticking two fingers up to everyone in the country.
  • borez, on 03/23/2009, -0/+5First roll out of ID cards for British natives, I kinda agree on immigrant cards.

    Yep, I agree it's ironic on the address thing, but if you want to petition parliament unfortunately you need to collect name and addresses otherwise you could just make up thousands of false names to back up your campaign.
  • XeroXenith, on 03/23/2009, -0/+5She basically just shuts up and waves until Christmas, when she makes her speech and gets back to waving...
  • NJank, on 03/23/2009, -3/+8I'm still trying to figure out how the division operator applies to a pair of assignment operators without throwing a syntax or type error.
  • netneutrality, on 03/23/2009, -0/+4If you don't like that it's from the Telegraph, try the BBC article instead: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7955205.stm
  • Sublex, on 03/23/2009, -0/+4Huxley too.
  • thinboyslim, on 03/23/2009, -0/+4Erm, the first ID card roll out has already gone ahead, foreign students and families of permanent foreign workers have them, story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7747303.stm
    Then there is the irony of having to sign up to your mates website by giving my name, email, house number, street and postcode to be held on your mates database??
  • feliks2, on 03/23/2009, -0/+3Why is this in the design section? And I really hope the European Court of Human Rights does something at least about the DNA database of innocent people.
  • MWeather, on 03/23/2009, -0/+3Yep, most people read 1984 and considered it a warning. The UK considered it a manual.
  • roostersheep, on 03/23/2009, -3/+6=/= != != == =/= <> !=
  • specialK16, on 03/23/2009, -0/+3When you have nothing to hide.
  • 1d0n7kn0wwh01am, on 03/23/2009, -1/+3Information is power - internet is free game to anyone with the right knowledge and definitely with the proper clearance. The government has always stored records on citizens. Now, we all know about a lot of what they ARE storing because it's in the news. Nothing has changed, except the technology has improved and made it more efficient to them. Anyway, if you are worried that the government might be collecting your information to personally use against you, think about this for a minute. They don't have the resources to humanly review the massive amounts of information collected. Just because they have information, doesn't mean they are even looking at it.

    And, the truth is, what makes you think you are so individually important as a citizen for them to spend their money and time personally watching and analyzing what you do?

    So Big Brother is watching. Always has been, always will. So what?
  • serif69, on 03/23/2009, -0/+2Because it's a secret?
  • trythison4sighs, on 03/23/2009, -0/+2LOL!! Oh, poor Brits! I love you guys and hopefully you'll FINALLY have the revolution you've always needed! That's what we did! And it looks like we may need another one!
  • squareears, on 03/23/2009, -1/+2I am so glad not to be American
  • GeordieRacer, on 03/23/2009, -3/+4This is absolutely shocking. And we as britains will lay down and take it.
  • pbol01, on 03/26/2009, -0/+1Government is a good thing, but control and bureaucracy is not.
    Lack of government leads to the same problems, but instead it is unscrupulous corporations an individuals who runs the show.
  • inactive, on 03/23/2009, -6/+7BURIED for a) inaccurate title (database != website) and b) telegraph
  • Unreal030, on 03/23/2009, -0/+1Thanks for pinpointing a common issue in our society today. Too many peoples opinions are considered to be factual.
  • BooLag, on 04/23/2009, -0/+1We support your war of terror!
  • alvaris, on 03/23/2009, -0/+1Thank you for sharing this information with us. It is interesting and surprising to know this is going on, but I'm glad someone pointed this out, so there could be corrections.
  • trythison4sighs, on 03/23/2009, -0/+1The problem isn't that they "put high risk databases in the hands of idiots." (All humans no matter how smart or well intentioned are idiots IMHO). It's the creation of the databases in the first place. I understand that we need to have information readily available but, instantaneous? That's not a necessity. If they de-centralized the information into localized pods or cells of information and require that the information isn't DIRECTLY available online by keeping said databases OFFLINE and forcing them to have to actually transfer the data manually via a memory stick. This would not only prevent hackers but, any one that was nosy including bored civil servants.
  • trythison4sighs, on 03/23/2009, -0/+1And just think, "Here in American they want to create a NHS database, too!" It's a bad idea to post personal information on a national database. Do you really think Congress's information will be on that database? Nope, their information will be "too sensitive".
  • FLarsen, on 03/25/2009, -0/+1@dfross: Everyone knows what =/= means, but it looks stupid.

    "!=" or "≠" is the way to go.
  • TheLD, on 03/23/2009, -0/+1The main problem is that they trusted the private sector to transport the information securely. If they are going to store sensitive information they should transport it themselves.
  • DarrylWatts, on 03/25/2009, -0/+1Define "real world"...Reality is only what you can get away with...
  • gizram84, on 05/30/2009, -0/+1you can't use "i think" and "true story" together and make a cohesive point..

    it's either your opinion or it's a fact
  • owenblacker, on 03/23/2009, -0/+1The ECHR already did: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7764069.stm

    The government is just dragging its heels over doing something about it. Shocker.
  • slapthemonkey, on 03/24/2009, -0/+1This is really alarming
  • pbol01, on 03/23/2009, -5/+5Fitting that George Orwell was British...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell
    I can't understand why the politicians want to do this? It seems like they have no connection with the real world. Or perhaps it the system really is like in the sitcom Yes Minister... :S
    Who is Sir Humphrey?
  • Unreal030, on 03/23/2009, -0/+0Because the natural current of government is to wish to increase its own power. Most people are too ignorant to keep it properly in check. This is why people that want the government to control more aspects of our lives than necessary and explicitly mentioned in the Constitution are completely insane and detached from reality. If people in the 1700's could figure that out with their very limited scope of education then I think we owe those thoughts their due credit.
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