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- Bertrum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does time really matter on the Underground though?
Once you need to change trains, then the timetable needs to be modeled as well which would be a huge task. If there are no changes involved, then the route takes what it takes and knowing how long it takes doesn't really help you decide on your route, which is the point of a map isn't it?
Excellent project though... - evilwallpape, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1interesting
the official London Underground map isn't actually mapped with distance or location, its mapped by connections. - chrisbaird, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In response to Bertrum, time does matter on a map. Say I have 20 minutes at lunch break and I have a few tasks to do around the city. I can use the map to figure out which task would fit in my timescale.
- DJSdotcom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, sweet! I'm a sucker for crisp illustrations...
- MWWLSE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1pglee2005 wins the award for best / most comprehensive digg comment I've ever read.
I enjoy this map:
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tube/maps/realunderground/realunderground.html - officemonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm... I thought Mornington Crescent was much farther away. It always takes such a long time to get there...
- pglee2005, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's a nice idea but not that original. A spatial equivalent has existed for some time.
I would like to see the journey duration contours in a concentric layout - the current display distorts them
An earlier poster correctly notes the schematic purpose of the map, contrast that with a geographical correct version is pretty cool - http://www.simonclarke.org/lul/ then http://www.simonclarke.org/lul/maps/lul.gif - or an extension of this http://www.nyclondon.com/blog/archives/2004/08/07/london_tube_map.blog
This is an interesting site with good coverage of what is (i feel) an iconic image yet incredibly useful to millions. http://owen.massey.net/tubemaps.html
Finally if ever in London the following website is a great way to get around
http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/user/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en - steveM49, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is brilliant! When I was considering housing at college, I wanted a map that would show "time distance" from the campus to various locations. It was way beyond the technology available then.
pglee2005 complains that this isn't new, Well, almost nothing is. Even Newton, publishing an astonishing number of new ideas, gave credit to the "giants" who permitted him to sit on their shoulders.
To those who complain about the lack of delays for transfers: what you'd need is a dynamic map that considers not only where you start from but also when you start out. It would need a "fuzzy" component too, in order to account for the chance of trains being slow or fast and the speed of the walker between platforms.
I did not read the authors notes in detail: how does he handle the fact that a single station can be reached with multiple paths and may need to be in multiple locations because of it. It would be a strange map indeed if it included a time dimension and allowed multiple loops with returns to an intermediate points. - sudoman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this would be cool as an interactive version where a roll-over would display changing time "zones"
- JanesDaddy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Would have been nice to keep the original colours (e.g. Bakerloo line should be brown, Circle line should be yellow, etc.). But not a bad effort.
For a Google map, look at http://www.jstott.me.uk/googlemaps/tubemap/ - marc-ee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is sweet. There is always a solution to convey information properly. Good job.
- JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Better watch out - anyone who clicks this link might be a terrorist! ;)
and while the idea might not be "original", as if any ideas really are, its still cool. digg just for the heck of it. - daddyfatsac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The design was alright, but I really liked the comment,
"And you made a “time” map where the time delimiters are not of equal distance because… you’re just wanking and trying to apply a retrospective justification for that to get a grade?" - jmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Great idea! If only more cartographers thought like this!
- nacho, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0would be cool to see this for nyc subway
- npiv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0He changed the time delimiters to fit the actual map. Kinda defies the point,
- awright38, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0sveet
- Xopl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Totally brilliant! I would have loved this when I was living in London. It looks a lot like the functional non-geographic map they have now, but adding length-of-trip information as well is fantastic. Now the map just needs to bend and stretch in real time as the trains slow down and speed up due to traffic etc.
- Bbbb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sophomorey done, but the idea is definitely not new: I remember some senior students were doing the same in there "Fuzzy statistics" class when I was a Sophomore—hence a long time ago. They asked hundreds of people how long it took them to go from any station to any another (that they knew from experience), and add the whole data through an MCA. Actually, they worked on the Paris tube, and the "real map" that they reported was used to decide on where to have the latest line (the Météor project, now the line 14).
About planning anything to take advantage of a 20 minutes break in London. . . Well, face it: 20 minutes is the usual DELAY on a 40 minutes commute in London, due to works, malfunctioning signal, or any random break that any Londoner comes across everyday. - terafunker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I remember once seeing a book in a London booksellers about where all the Tube stations got their names, and just where some of the funnier names of London's locales and environs came from.
I think it'd be interesting to see someone create an interactive map of the Underground with this information as a roll-over, even if only for fun. One of those things that makes London about the most fascinating city in the world is its vast and storied history, and the since that no matter how modern the place gets, you'll still only be a stroll along most any random street in the City or Westminster away from running across a building that predates the discovery of the New World. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0man i wish i had this earlier this year when i was in london. next year...
- slhilbert, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I wish I had any graphic ability :(
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http://www.getyourowntots.com - WizKid8586, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0The next thing to do with this is to put it on a database and have a nice frontend using google maps.
-Wally
http://wizkid8586.dyndns.org
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