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- tirith100, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5399.7 percent of all people need this page.
- kyledavis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+40How hilarious that the title of this digg submission is punctuated incorrectly.
- dbarefoot, on 10/12/2007, -4/+41Looks like the submitter didn't read the whole article.
- bobcrotch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+34yaritewhoneedspunctuationitsjustmoretypingidontneedtodo
- wonderchemist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32Let's, eat grandma.
Let's eat, grandma. - 1jaxstate1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31Why do I need this page,
- SirG3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22What if you're Mr. Shatner? We need, to find, a HAM SANDWICH!
- WorldGroove, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22I remember a developer telling me that once: "My code works; it gets the job done. Who cares if it's not nice to look at?"
He didn't last too long. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Guilty, as charged.
- d3vmax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Didn't we have a similar dugg article yesterday?
- MAdaXe42, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Yeah he, did? Clearly. His punc'tuati-on is near(ly) spot:on perfect?!!!1
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18On semicolons: The two complete sentences joined by semicolons should be related in content; usually, the meaning of the second is semi-dependent on the meaning of the first.
You shouldn't join unrelated sentences with semicolons; I had an apple with my lunch today. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Spelling, punctuation and usage contribute to your credibility.
Presenting your thoughts with care will make you a more persuasive, impactful communicator.
Or U cd rite like a fuktrd for the lolz!!!!eleven!! - swordedge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I dugg it because I see people begin with a capital letter, toss in a period once in a while, and use only one paragraph for all three pages worth of stuff. They then expect me to actually read it. Yeah right!
- timdorr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I have, no idea:
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8A comma is though. Look it up.
I'm pretty sure " :D " isn't a "punctuation assclown" though; you're right in that respect. - xVebx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse.
I helped my uncle, Jack off a horse. - MyNameIsJoe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5c tahts the . if u dont pucnuate and sepll rite ihave 2 think 2 muhc 2 figrue out waht your tring 2 say
- azAZ09, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I, for one, welcomed our grammar-nazi overlords.
- IamTheProfessor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6It's sad to see the large numbers of people speaking in "chat" or "texting" language.
"Wut r u up 2 l8r"
"Nutn U"
"LOL. Want 2 chill 2nite"
"Ite CUL8R"
I don't think this article will help them much; they are beyond help. - bobcrotch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Punctuation and spell aren't really that hard to deal with. You really shouldn't think you're any better than someone else because you don't care about punctuation.
- azAZ09, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@tivolives
"If one tries to correct your grammar, he or she is not a Nazi."
If someone tries to correct my grammar, I refer to him or her as my TA (a.k.a proofreading and paper-grading bitch).
The hyphenated form "grammar-nazi" carries a specific comedic connotation, as well as referring to a person who obsesses on order in excess of necessity. My reference to grammar-nazi succinctly and simultaneously expressed my gladness at their arrival, my distress at their lack of netiquette, as well as my willingness to throw myself on my sword in hopes that someone would invoke Godwin's Law.
Which is the bigger gaff, making a grammar error, or correcting someone's grammar? While making a grammar error is usually unconscious, lacking in malice and not usually severe enough to impede understanding, correcting someone is by definition conscious, discourteous, and off topic. Also, it is usually only entertaining in a smug manner to the person doing the correcting. Grammar-nazis need to "Get the ***** over it." The other person usually has no means of correcting a post, so it is neither constructive nor informative. The only thing more rude would be dressing down some emo n00b on issues of netiquette--Oops! Sorry.
“Nazis were bad, Strunk and White were good.”
Strunk & White were dull. Jack Kerouac, ee cummings, and Langston Hughes, were brilliant.
Evolve. Step your slimy lobes beyond a murky sea of obsession and rule.
“And the whole "I, for one, welcome" thing is _so_ over.”
Agreed, the “I for one, welcome” thing is _so_ over, it is now retro, and carries comedic irony for the reader of average I.Q.
Digg + (web 2.0) =((Endless September) * 10^25)
/rant - resplence, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Rule 4 actually disrupts my reading flow.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Seeing as we just had a punctuation lesson yesterday, I found this article far more useful: http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifehack/advice-for-students-how-to-unstuff-a-sentence.html
- burke, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7I? Sus;pect! the!!!; ti--tle was, ...meant (to) be: ironic?!.,;;'"(?!!!)
- gardnmi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6" :D " isn't a punctuation assclown.
- ftyuv, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Gah, Digg took my arrows and thought they were HTML. Anyway, I was trying to say:
"I run in the morning, and I sleep at night." -- second "I" is there, so you need the comma
"I run in the morning and sleep at night." -- second "I" is implied, so the comma is wrong - Magistrate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A large portion of the Digg user-base should read this article, but it is far from complete. Unlike is listed in the article, commas and semi-colons are not the only punctuation you can/should use in a sentence.
- dosterm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So a panda walks into a bar. After ordering a sandwich, he devours it whole, then draws a gun and fires it into the chest of the man sitting next to him.
In the chaos, the bartender manages to cry out "Why? Why, panda, why?"
Standing in the open doorway, the bear tosses him a badly punctuated wildlife manual and says, "I'm a panda. Look it up." He exits without a further word.
The waiter turns to the page on pandas and reads through his panicked tears:
"Panda bear. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots, and leaves." - bmartin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Isn't that the point? You're supposed to pause for a moment.
- Improfane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Rule 4 is personal preference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma#Style_guides_opposing_mandatory_use
I do not like it. - pitfallharry, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Rules 3 and 4 are not rules. You don't have to put the commas in, but they're not wrong if you use them. The article should be renamed from Rules to Suggestions.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Please post it under irritating anal retentive noise.
Poor, punctuation, is, irreverent, as, long, as, the, message, is, understood` - tech42er, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I support God, country, and the Oxford comma; it breaks my heart the Economist doesn't support it.
- bjeanes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No. Didn't anyone teach you the end-of-sentence preposition rule? Bah!
- resplence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, "disrupt" means "to cause disorder or turmoil in", "to throw into confusion or disorder", so I didn't mean it to enhance comprehension in some way.
If it's "right", it's "right", but it doesn't work for me. And I was always under the impression that it was up to personal preference, as a stylistic resource. - spectre_25gt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If this is of interest to you, you should take a look at /The Elements of Style/ by Strunk and White
- ftyuv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Rule 4 is not optional; you need a comma before the conjunction between two *complete* sentences. If the second sentence is not complete -- if it doesn't explicitly state a subject, for instance -- a comma is not just unneeded, it's wrong:
"I run in the morning, and I sleep at night." - pinkfu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma
- jeffbart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a set of preferences, for American english,not rules.. Whoops, sorry, you didn't realise there's another kind of english?
- GrantTheGr8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@kyledavis: I'm pretty sure that was intentional?
- curlygirlie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oh I SEE! Thanks Pinkfu. I don't use it because I am British (or you could argue European) but you would use it because you aren't. I can now sleep unburdened. I was worried about my own punctuative abilities as I've always had a somewhat disturbed relationship with the apostrophe and I thought this was about to extend to the comma.
- SanFranMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Rule Ten:
If your sentence contains good news, replacing a period at the end of the sentence with ":D" is acceptable ;P - azAZ09, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Rule 3 is a rule, but rule 3's second sentence is actually a fragment.
- pauldonnelly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You mean if people are *willing* to read what you type. News flash: people on the Internet don't give a damn what you have to say. If you make your message difficult to understand you're just making it more likely that people will skip your ramblings. And presumably you don't want that, seeing as how you're taking the time to write.
- therearenorules, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The. People. Who. Write. Titles. Like. This. Should. Read. The. Article. EVER.
- gregmo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yea I've always learned that lists don't necessarily have to have commas before the conjunction. I certainly prefer without, because it's excessive.
- shankarganesh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12 stories I submitted have reached the front page of digg! :D
The other one http://digg.com/linux_unix/First_Pidgin_screenshot
Apologise if I've not punctuated the above sentences correctly :) - notahat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Am I the only one who noticed that "Rules to be followed while punctuating a sentence." is not a sentence?
- azAZ09, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@jimmytown
It does when the author uses questionable grammar in the article, and you are asking the community what they think of it. -
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