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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+40"Their source is usually over the air HDTV"
Over the air HDTV is just as good as any HDTV. Why? Because HDTV over the air either works or doesn't work. It isn't analogous, so the quality doesn't go up or down. Static, or a picture on your screen...and nothing in between. - Blazekun, on 10/12/2007, -5/+40Semi decent, but leaves off a few very strong points.
LCDs sometimes have issues with back lighting being even across the whole screen, leaving dark bands on the side, not really noticeable if you're looking at the TV, but might want to watch out for it.
If you are mainly watching TV in a bright room, you might take a closer look at LCDs. Plasmas have a glass on the front which works like a big mirror in bright rooms, LCDs will have barely any glare whatsoever.
DO NOT judge a TVs quality at best buy or the like. They usually have very poorly configured TVs. Unless you have a pure source, such as a game console, or an HD-DVD movie, don't judge the picture quality. Their source is usually over the air HDTV. No cable, or satellites.
Also, price point is a big factor. Trust other people more than sales associates trying to sell the big ones. They say in this video that a 45" LCD will cost you $4500. I recently bought a 42" LCD for $2000, on sale even for a before-tax total of $1500. 1080p even with great reviews.
Read reviews. Figure out your size and price points, and go from there.
But whatever you do, do not trust in-store picture quality! They don't tell any of the story. - castleking, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26I hate to be a nazi, but this links to a blog which links to an article from March 2005. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that the high definition television market can change significantly within a year.
- gravis86, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24Actually, computer and TV stores usually have 1080i or 1080p signals going into the TV's. Fo instance, I know for a fact that CompUSA uses 1080p, because I work there. BestBuy also uses 1080p.
Most stores also have their own satellite feed most of the time, so they can display their own advertisements and such.
I still modded you up because the other stuff is good, but this just needed correction. - Halfang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/03/09/lcd_or_plasma_/index.html
Link to the real article. - starfighter01, on 10/12/2007, -11/+28I'm getting tired of this site posting unoriginal content linked from other blogs and then getting dugg to the front page. When is this blog going to write something original? If we are going to digg the article we should digg the original article and not this one.
- mdamico123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11This isn't an accurate comparison, they fail to mention some important factors:
•Viewing Angle: Plasmas have much better viewing angle than LCDs in general. It makes a whole difference when having a large crowd. DLP is by far the worst at viewing angle.
•Resolutions: Plasmas that are cheaper than same-sized LCDs have lower resolutions (800sx600s Plasma) vs (1200sx1000s LCD)
•Weight and power consumption: LCDs are lighter and consume far less energy than Plasmas.
•Glare vs mate: Plasmas have hard glossy cover while most LCDs have a mate screen. - nunquam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I'd go for LSD over plasma personally, the colours are amazing...
- moonlanderr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12CRT is still the best picture you can get 32inch HDTV about 800-900 does not have Plasma or LCD problems. I could care less about it being little bigger.
- 0siris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9This is spam for Plasma
- Burly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8..and it has, plasma burn in isn't much of an issue/ if at all with newer models.
- tito13kfm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Thank you. I hate blog's that steal others content and generate ad revenue from it.
I couldn't even read the chart on the blog because it had been scaled to fit in their crappy layout. - AtomicCow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Where's the DLP love?
- mrpizza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I game a lot on my 42 inch LCD....and a friend always told me that I wasted my money cause he got a 50 inch plasma way cheaper than me....
However, I laughed to death when I noticed the halo 2 radar was burnt in the screen...
So for gaming LCDs are the way to go, plus you can connect your desktop pc and dont worry about burning in your desktop... - randomvictim, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I like how they forgot about how much higher quality picture you can get on an LCD than a plasma at the same price and size. The writter of this seems to have a personal bias. Plasma are also more prone to burn in.
- kingace, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6It's a comparison of non-projection (ultra-thin) TV's. Most DLP TV's use rear projection. LCD and Plasma TV's do not. So, it's a comparison of these two technologies that look almost the same to the end-user, but are very different on the inside.
- tokyopimp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Actually even though that video is old, it's still relevant, besides the prices he mentions.
There is one really easy rule to go by, 50 inches and above got with Plasma, it's a hell of a lot cheaper. Another rule like the video said, is that if you watch movies and sports, plasmas are definatley better, no doubt.
I have a 50inch Vizio P50, they sell these at Sams Club and Costco, it's the best damn bang for the buck TV out there. And watching movies and football on this thing is just awesome.
I'm not even worried about burn in, you'd really have to leave an image on the screen for a long time, not to mention most new plasmas have a screen cleaning mode, where the plasma scrubs out any burned in images.
Also plasmas last a lot longer, that was one of the bad things about plasma in the past, how long the brightness and screen would last, but they have just as long a life as LCDs now. - agony, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8FINALLY, another compare..
like 300 billions before - omatsei, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8As far as picture quality, I'll put my Westinghouse LVM-42W2 (that costs $1600 or so) against your CRT any day of the week.
And... a little bigger? My 42" LCD weighs about 50 lbs. My 32" CRT weighed 160 lbs. Try moving THAT into your next apartment. - Poopoopants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I'm sad to here about the plasma TV getting the burned 4 logo. That makes it almost impossible to watch any TV channel with a logo permanently in the corner without it being burned in.
- nogami, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5When I see blatent blog-spam I just immediately bury it. If enough people did the same thing, it wouldn't be an issue.
(personally, I'm waiting for SED or Laser displays - I havn't purchased a flat TV, just a front-projection system driven from a DLP projector. Really gives a nice home theatre experience!) - fjc8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@gravis86:
most TVs won't accept 1080p input, it's all 1080i...
.. which will look bad in 720p/1366x768 tvs with poor deinterlacers
and I believe most of the demos use component (analog), not HDMI or DVI (digital)
HD stands for HIGH DEFINITION and nothing else.
HDTV can be transmitted over HDMI/DVI (best), VGA, or component.
Component is the most common (y/pb/pr -- red, green, and blue wires) -- most "professionally" installed cable boxes will use component. Component is supported on more video game systems (Xbox 360, PS2, Xbox) and DVD players than HDMI/DVI. - sdrawkcaB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4this video is accurate, as of more than a year ago. There's no way that LCD is more expensive these days, I'm pretty sure that plasma is the expensive one now. I also believe there are LCD's that are larger than 45"...isn't the biggest TV ever like a 103" LCD?
- nohart, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Isnt DLP better than both plasma and lcd? becuase dlp tv's dont "burn in" images like plasma tvs do?
- Thoth49, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They didn't say it would burn-in watching the station with the logo, they said if you paused it for a long time it would burn in. I bet that most stations subtly change the elements or use transparency to prevent those problems. I'm pretty sure that the video they showed was a mockup as well, I always thought burn-in was just a faint ghosting and I doubt they'd sacrifice a Plasma for their video.
My main concern with burn-in would be falling asleep watching a movie that had a non-animated menu as the home screen, I'd make sure to look for a TV that had some kind of auto-shutoff. - HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I've had plenty of experience with this. Like 3 of my friends have plasmas and 5 have LCDs. Comparing equivalent models (top-end plasma to top-end LCD), plasma isn't nearly as good as LCD. And plasmas, despite advances, still burn in.
- RingZero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3March 2005 well that would explain the prices mentioned in the video....they did seem to be pretty inflated.
- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This can't be right, LCD is much cheaper than plasma in my home town.
This must be pretty old. - xturmn8r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3There are large LCDs as well. eg: the 65" aquos.
http://www.sharpusa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,1572,00.html
(I'm not an Sharp employee, btw, just thought I'd point out that he's wrong, LCDs can be huge, too. Not that 42 isn't huge.)
Also, there are anti burn in measures in most plasmas these days. That being said, I wish my parents had listened to me and got the 42" westy 1080p LCD unit that was - groberts1980, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Marked as inaccurate, this article is obviously either very old, or very misinformed.
LCD's topping out at 45 inches? Strange, as I have a 50" LCD in my living room. My brother is looking at buying a 60" LCD right now. $5,000 for a 45" LCD? Try less than 2 grand. Like I said, either outdated by about 4 years, or terribly misinformed. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The Westinghouse 42" and 47" LCDs are the "hidden gems" in the LCD world. Serious bang-for-the-buck. However the 47"s are extremely tough to find - more so in the US than Canada for some reason.
- evansls, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The burn-in example in the youtube video is total BS. It doesn't leave the logo like that at all... if anything, it's a faint image that littearlly "washes" away when you watch something else on tv again if for some reason you puased your plasma tv for 4 hours and with today's 5th generation plasma's using the burn-in protection it's certainly not an issue. i couldn't be happier with my samsung 42" plasma.
- klamathvx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2DLP is, however, a projection technology. This comparison is concerning flat panel TV types.
- mianos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A refactor page with a list of URLS that can add to you can vote for as the original content would be the go. The highest voted URL would be listed at the bottom of the article.
- IanBell330, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2There is nothing of value on Tech-e-blog, they just link to Toms Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/03/09/lcd_or_plasma_/index.html
Why are all of these blogs with a short paragraph blurb making front page of digg when they just link to the source? - ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2SED... one screen... to rule them ALL!
- TheBarge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah no kidding. Blog spam citing a March 9th, 2005 article from Toms Hardware. Yeah that's a legitimate comparison. Everyone knows technology doesn't change in a year and 7 months.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pixel shifting stinks. I can see the picture swim.
And you can't deburn a plasma, it is an artifact of pixel aging, all you can do is burn in the unburned part until it matches the burned part. - Brutis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2marked as inaccurate due to the burning in on plasmas being highly exagerated
- BobsYourUncle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Instead of posting another article that talks about the differences, I'd rather someone recommend a reputable site to view information. I'll be looking into getting an HDTV set eventually, and I'd rather know I should just read (insert site name here) rather than read year old reviews.
So, any suggestions? Any decent sites that you would trust when you're looking for information? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The story was inaccurate regarding LCD price and size:
I purchased my 47" Westinghouse LCD for $2600 Canadian. I am very pleased with it and absolutely nothing can touch it at that price. And it's great being able to plug a DVI equipped PC or notebook into either the VGA, DVI or HDMI port and getting pixel perfect 1920x1080 resolution at 60hz.
In my opinion, I still believe LCD lacks in black level performance, contrast and off-axis viewing but excels in sharpness/detail/resolution, brightness, power consumption, weight, and no burn-in concerns. For video gaming - LCD is without a doubt the way to go. - Spaz007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1LCOS FTW
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've got the 47" Westinghouse LCD - my 2003 Samsung CRT rear-projector kills it for black levels.
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1forgot to add a few things:
LCD's can get a little over 50 inches last i checked, just 45.
plasmas are notorious for burning out or fading over time. i have a plasma and it just broke for the second time this year (get the warrenties on these things, it's worth it).
LCD refresh time isn't much if a problem any more, nor is burn in for plasmas.
Personally, if you have the space (for a 2 foot footprint or something), the mitsubishi DLP's are kickass,and cheaper than both LCD and plasmas. - meBigGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@deschain
I think that if you understood digital decoding, clock extraction from a digital stream, jitter caused by inferior cables, error correction capabilities of the protocol, what happens to video blocks that are not recovered correctly, what the artifacts caused by concealment algorithms look like and so on, you might opt for better cables. Not sure, just guessing.
People make assumptions about "Digital" that are untrue. The high speed digital signal in that cable has very serious analog qualities, and the recovered result is not completely "go no-go". - alistairf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Don't bother with plasma if you live over a about a mile, the lower pressure outside leads to a buzzing sound. Some plasmas are rated for higher altitude, but I'd expect you'd lose your plasma price advantage over LCD then.
- tpaine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1what do you expect from a guy who got is information by "spending the whole day down at best buy" ... what a moron!
- pacman122, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Link to the article not to the blog about the article
- Majician, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@gravis86:
-HD stands for HIGH DEFINITION and nothing else.-
Nuh uh.....It stand for High Dizzlewizzle!!!! - gbaderek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Are DLP worth the money I know they are cheaper but do they have pretty good video quality? My dad wants to get a hd tv but he wants a dlp because they are cheaper. What's a good 40 to 60 inch DLP?
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