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- mcvetyty, on 10/12/2007, -9/+48I think you mean "Very cool, yet incredibly gross at the same time!"
- UncommonSense, on 10/12/2007, -10/+48I for one welcome our french fry and frappacino overlords.
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/12/2007, -7/+45It looks like a scene from a virus/nuclear holocuast movie.
"Evacuate who you can. Everyone within this area is already lost." - blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -21/+43Classic example of how to lie with statistics. Look at the graphs at the bottom. They grew the bars in both dimensions for an increase in area that DOES NOT equal the actual increase. The actual increase is only represented by the vertical growth but by adding the the horizontal growth they made it look like Starbucks has increased WAY WAY WAY more than it actually has. Same goes for the McDonald's graph. Grade A ***** right here folks.
- e03179, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20@blapierre:
The map was made by Jonathan Harris, not Princeton. To see more of his maps go to: http://www.number27.org/projects/maps/index.html - xLiKx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17fat and caffiene = winner!
- RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20060821/tullys-starbucks-map.gif
I always laugh when I see the number of Starbucks and Tully's in Seattle. Lewis Black would not be happy if he saw all these Starbucks across the street from a ***** STARBUCKS!! :) - zorpscorp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Aw... I was expecting something like this:
http://static.flickr.com/75/221513091_56cb11fee7.jpg?v=0
a MUCH cooler map(?) of McDonalds and Starbucks taking over the world, IMO. - RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12It's from New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman's book "The Lexus and the Olive Tree." He called it "The Golden Arches Theory of Conflict Prevention." There are two or three exceptions but the basic idea holds. No two nations that are locked into the global economy can afford to go to war with one another.
In this map you can basically see the next generation's future conflicts, diplomatic pushes, market openings, etc. The forces of McDonalds and Starbucks are advancing on Central Asia, the Middle East, and South Asia. Look at the McDonalds-free countries and you will notice such trouble spots as Iran, Indonesia, and Venezuela. - guimonkey, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17Thank god they are all over the world. I can't imagine having to take a vacations without my coffee or McSlop burger.
- 00011000, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13All your stomachs are belong to us.
- Firemeboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I had a poly sci prof tell me (about 10 years ago) that no two countries with a McDonald's in their border had ever gone to war with each other.
So we should be sending Ronald McDonald over to Iraq. Maybe the violence would end when everybody is trying to come up with an answer to the question, "Do you want fries with that?" - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11They serve Lamb. Or pork. Or Tofu.
And not everybody in India is Hindu anyway. - isemism, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10(sorry to doublepost, ran out of time)
Anyone notice the copyright date is 2003?
I would imagine both companies have spread exponentially in 3 years. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The copyright date on the map is 2003. It's defintely not up to date information.
- carguy84, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I had no idea McDonalds was so much bigger then BK. $41B to $11B...
- Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9is it just me or is paying 5 dollars for a coffee completely nuts.
- xigxag, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11I don't see why everyone is getting in a fuss over the size of the bars on the graph. It is obvious that the values are on the vertical axis, and the higher the bar is the higher that value is. By making the far portion thicker, isn't skewing the numbers. It does make for a visually appealing graph in my opinion.
I have no idea if the numbers are correct, but I think it is a cool way to display them. - Lososaurus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11What the ***** is "Tully's"?
- erraggy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7The worst part is that even though I stopped going to these two places, I still would love to down a carmel frappuccino with a large oder of fries.
I think they manipulated my genetic structure or something... - CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Mcdonalds changes their menu per region. They match their foods to the norms in each country they plop a restaurant in.
- yvovandoorn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Technically YUM corporation (Pizza Hut, KFC & Taco Bell, AW and Longjohn Silvers) is the largest food corporation in the world.
- CBTF, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7In other words, its harder to find a big mac with all the fixins in Africa.
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Maybe he means after they had McDonalds in them. I doubt they existed in WWII. I'm not sure when the six-day-war was either.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6He was making a Joke. Thanks for Ruining it.
- swanny89, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I've been telling people for years that starbucks is taking over the world.
- jtrost, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Google Maps says that within 1 mile of my zip code (60661) there are about 40 Starbucks and 9 McDonalds. Crazy.
- punkrockxtian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well any fellow candian would surely know of the familiar presence of Tim Hortons on nearly every corner. I live in a SUBURB of Toronto and there about 60 Timmies withing a 20 km radius. Not to mention about 5 within walking distance.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6The reason for that is because Africans don't like Starbucks. Everyone knows they love KFC.
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5in arizona, two starbucks stores close to each other means there's an independant coffee shop nearby (most likely in between the two starbuckses)
mmmm... double-roasted capitalism... :-) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://www.princeton.edu/%7Eina/infographics/
Awesome stuff. - matt0ne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am pretty sure both Lebanon and Israel have McDonalds.
- Demagogue, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4RadiantBeing
He also made mention of this in The World is Flat, if I remember correctly, a book every digger should read. I had forgotten about that. - joeisanemokid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Whats most sad about Mcdonalds (and most fast food chains) is the fact that they allow fat lazy parents to never have to cook for their children. Example: I work at a Mcdonalds where I live and their are two separate families that I see come in every day for at least two separate meals. What a healthy way to bring up children.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hmm, according to that map, Sudan and Egypt have united.
They could become a global powerhouse.
Beware. - Rasdan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5How do you figure? Pizza Hut, KFC and Taco Bell (according to this map) only bring in $20.5 billion - McDonald's brings in $41 billion. I doubt A & W and Long John Silver between the two fo them bring in an additional $20.5 billion.
- isemism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not much into starbucks in Africa it seems...
- vhold, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Sounds like a chicken and the egg scenario to me. I'm more inclined to think that McDonalds aren't in those countries because of the instability or negative attitudes towards western culture then I am to think that McDonalds creates stability.
Interesting thought though. - RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@Demagogue. Yeah, in his latest book he restates the idea in terms of global supply chains and outsourcing. I think he called it "The Dell Theory."
@vhold. The presence of a McDonald's is just a shorthand way of indicating that a country has met certain social, economic, and political conditions to become a platform where multinationals can play. Things like political and military stability, dependable infrastructure, rule of law, property rights, populace with money to spend, trainable workforce, etc. We take these things for granted but they are pretty uncommon in the rest of the world. McDonalds and Starbucks don't create the initial conditions, though they certainly play a role in stabilizing and developing them later on. Anyway, once a country has such things and starts having business relationships with other such countries, war between them becomes too costly and therefore doesn't generally happen. - SuperCujo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Why should it be the job of the fast food company to manage what parents feed their kids?
It is the parents responsibility to raise the kids, not the company. The parents should make better choices, it isn't up to McDonalds to do that for them. If these parents want to bring up a family of fatties, then that is their choice. - brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's awesome, I want to travel the worlds McDonalds's now. Imagine: Fried Mars Bars in Scotland, Cous-cous and falafel in Turkey, I wonder how their Kung Po Beef is in China...
- brandonhoth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Lewis Black was talking about Houston, TX, where there is literally a pair of Starbuck's directly across from one another. There is a comedy club called the Laff Stop in the same area, so I imagine that is how he came across it. The area is a pretty affluent part of Houston, and though I haven't been back to Houston in several years, I do know they both thrived for some time. I guess rich people don't have the time to make left turns. Here is a panoramic picture of the intersection, if you are interested: http://www.gergltd.com/users/isaac.gerg/starbucks/images/panorama.jpg
- reddevil3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Man I am getting tired of McD's. I grew up in the Middle East, and was initially excited to see them when they appeared in Dubai back in '95 or so. They spread like a cancer throughout the country. I visited Pakistan regularly, and as soon as you leave the Karachi airport the first thing you see is a McD's. *****!! And they are all over the city! Then I moved to the US and they are EVERYWHERE. Thank God there are tons of other restaurants here.
Starbucks is good, but no way am I paying so much for a coffee. And it is expensive everywhere. - dmurphy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8I've heard that no country with a McDonald's in it has ever been at war with another country with a McD's in it. I'm not sure it's true, but it's interesting nonetheless
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The few times I get starbucks coffee, it's a nice treat. Besides, we already pay too much for gas and health food. At least my gouging is helping the workers there get health benefits.
- drlog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The funny thing is, most countries have these shops called "cafes". You can buy cups of coffee there as well (generally at a fraction of the price) in a mug....
Besides, whats bad about coffee? I'm drink one or two every day but have only been to Starbucks about 3 times. - deepsub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3They have to grow the coffee somewhere...
- ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Until McDonalds (and all other restaurants for that matter) STOP using TRANS-FATS, I will never go back to them.
- techlinks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For the record...god I hate Starbucks. I'll stick with Tim Hortons thanks.
Never quite understood overpaying for the overrated crap that is Starbucks. - porkstacker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Jun168=dumb racist *****.
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