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Adobe Flash Macromedia cought burying Filmator.net on Digg

documentary-art.net — A recent story that was getting a lot of attention on Digg was suddenly buried when Macromedia learned of the news. Adobe Flash are said to be livid that a new website is threatening to swipe a large portion of their business and they are doing their up-most to bury the news. The site allows users to make Flash films and publish them online free!

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  • jdowdell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Macromedia has welcomed other SWF-producing tools for years. The history is clear.

    Allegations without testable proof often end up being counterproductive, however.

    jd/adobe
  • jdowdell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Hi, what leads you to believe that this is true?

    jd/adobe
  • jdowdell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4... I suspect you may be trying to say that that screenshot (from where, I do not know), with an entry from "corp.macromedia.com" (which has been defunct for quite some time), means that someone who works at Adobe pressed a little "Bury" button on the Digg interface. Might be, might not, but that cropped screencap doesn't seem to justify such a headline.

    I think the time I've spent with you here, and the Macromedia/Adobe history of welcoming other SWF-producing tools, might be a bit stronger indication...?
  • geodescent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3All this because someone tried to bury your Digg story? God you people are annoying. If I bury it does that mean I was paid off by Adobe?
  • kooft, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well, I _don't_ work for Adobe and I can attest to two things. First, this post on Digg _is_ inaccurate (and duly marked as such) because it's using a sensational headline to try and garner traffic to a website (and a poorly designed one at that). Second, AgentBleu's argument is weak, as jdowdell points out, for the fact that the only proof offered is snippet of a screenshot. If Adobe were in a conspiracy to bury anything I'd think they'd have the IT savvy to use an anonymous proxy. Credibility can be established with a case, which AgentBleu clearly forgot to bring.

    Go back to your cave AgentBleu.

    Buried...
  • zionKing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This article is balderdash. It's not ethical to accuse Adobe of things just to get some publicity.
  • AgentBleu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1A new site Filmator.net suprises Adobe Flash as it threatens to swipe a large portion of their market. Creators who want to animate content and publish online have until now been forced to invest heavily in advance. One agency MagnumPhotos who has used Flash to create their In Motion series, contracted the prestigious Flash design studio group94 to develop a stand alone 'essay player' to achive this effect. This device cost MagnumPhotos (one of the most prestigious photo agencies in the world) a fortune in development as it was created from the ground up. Though investments like this do not phase big players, smaller designers and companies trying to compile content using Flash in the same manor are slightly more intimidated when faced with shelling out 50K in design costs before they get their hands anywhere near the content.

    What has now changed is that by using the Filmator.net site, creators can upload their photos, audio and even videos, then compile them using the inbuilt patented content compiler and then publish the Filmations (as these are called) on the site or by embedding them on their own sites, and all of this is free.

    Adobe refused to make a comment but MagnumPhotos has said they are interested to see such a development and would consider using this software but have issues with publishing content on an 'open platform'.

    It will be interesting to see how designers who have wanted to compile content using Flash in a documentary style - using pictures and sound, but who did not have 50K spare will gravitate towards this open platform and embrace the Filmation concept.



  • AgentBleu, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0yes its just as you suspect...

    as you say adobe welcome SWF producing tools, I wonder if you would like to make a short and honest statement/evaluation on behalf of adobe about this filmation software?



  • AgentBleu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Hi Jd from Adobe,

    I cannot reveal sources as they are 'insiders' but it was said that the story was buried right after a log entry was registered as being from corp.macromedia.com

    Whats your side of the story?
    Do you really think this site could 'swipe a portion of your business'?


  • AgentBleu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0What do you make of this then, the log was the last entry before the story was buried.

    http://www.documentary-art.net/macromedia.jpg

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