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- droplister, on 06/15/2009, -12/+83Digg this up if you actually develop sites, digg it down if you do not.
By that I mean:
1. You own your own domain name.
2. Have paid hosting.
3. Can make your own design without templates.
I refuse to believe there are as many people developing websites on digg as their are people constantly digging css/design articles. Prove me wrong. - Jokaroni, on 06/15/2009, -2/+27As many animated .gifs as humanly possible.
- woofers07, on 06/15/2009, -0/+20KISS = Keep It Simple Stupid
don't know what kind of sheltered world you live in. - drmangrum, on 06/15/2009, -2/+221) Your site must reside on a server that can handle traffic gracefully.
- beelz, on 06/15/2009, -1/+16K.I.S.S. = Keep it Short and Simple.
C.R.A.P. = Contrast, Repetition, Alignment and Proximity. - benbrooks101, on 06/15/2009, -0/+12I don't have paid hosting... But I do host it off my own server. That counts, right?
- lovek, on 06/15/2009, -2/+13<blink><marquee>DO THIS!!!!</marquee></blink>
- Raz0rEdge, on 06/15/2009, -2/+12..and more accurately "make sure it renders on Firefox, Opera, and Safari and do your damnest to make it look reasonable on IE"..
- dalittle, on 06/15/2009, -2/+121. Make sure your website renders correctly in all popular browsers.
- JammoBlammo, on 06/15/2009, -0/+8http://digg.com/design/4_Principles_of_Good_Design ... - 3/21/2009
http://digg.com/design/4_Principles_of_Good_Design ... - 5/6/2009
http://digg.com/design/4_Principles_of_Good_Design ... - 6/15/2009
I'm totally gonna resubmit this in a month. - ImYourRealDad, on 06/15/2009, -0/+7unfortunately, a poor example in choosing good hosting.
- straylight08, on 06/15/2009, -0/+75) A server that works is also important.
- kierucom, on 06/15/2009, -1/+8I'm not sure I agree with you entirely - certainly design as an idea is unrestricted to any rules or principles, but design when applied to a specific medium will necessarily have restrictions. Art for arts sake is one thing entirely apart from art to convey a message.
- droplister, on 06/15/2009, -0/+6Sure. I just meant no geocities style hosting scheme. This isn't a scientific poll.
- insertAliasHere, on 06/15/2009, -1/+7"do your damnest to make it look reasonable on IE"
Worst advice ever. While I share your disdain of IE, and hate the fact that it mangles my carefully crafted CSS, I understand that the majority of the people on the internet use the default browser that came with their machines. Since most computers come with Windows, that means IE. So unless you want the majority of your users to visit a site that is just "reasonable" and not exactly what it should be, you should absolutely make sure it renders properly in IE.
Now, depending on your audience, you may be lucky and not have to worry about IE. Tech sites and the such have a much higher percentage of the audience using a more standards-compliant browser. But for most companies' public sites, the significant majority of visitors use IE7. Hell, on our public site, IE6 has almost an equal share to Firefox. - insertAliasHere, on 06/15/2009, -0/+6Flash ads are an absolute must. Preferably ones that shout that you've won a free iPod.
- insertAliasHere, on 06/15/2009, -0/+5There's nothing ironic about this. Web design isn't the same thing as administering a web server.
- theaceoffire, on 06/15/2009, -0/+5It is easier to make it in a standards compliant browser and the shove it into IE than the other way around.
- BrendanSheehan, on 06/15/2009, -2/+61. Content is king. 2. Make is look clear [contrast] and nice.
Still, I applaud anyone who'd take the time to write an article on design, and submit it to digg - where it's a given that it will be torn to shreds and picked apart, for grammatical errors and differences of opinion. - jba68, on 06/15/2009, -0/+4Only if they flash loud obnoxious colors
- CanadianRealist, on 06/15/2009, -0/+4Don't use annoying flash ads that pull the user's attention from the actual content that they're trying to look at.
(Alternately, for users, Firefox with Adblock Plus to correct this particular poor design decision.) - dalittle, on 06/15/2009, -0/+4IE should have a plug-in that will render the website in Firefox.
- insertAliasHere, on 06/15/2009, -0/+3I typically bury anyone trying to do something like a digg poll, but I'm curious about this as well. I find it hard to believe that (currently) 85% of the people that took action on your comment have their own site.
- mctom987, on 06/15/2009, -2/+5Actually a decent list. Not many of those on Digg recently.
- insertAliasHere, on 06/15/2009, -0/+3Well, I never said anything about which you should do first, or which is easier. My point is that it better look like what you want it to in IE, not just "reasonable," since the way it looks and works in IE is the way that the majority of your audience is going to experience your site.
Yeah, it's harder to make it look right, but it's just a fact of life for a web developer/designer. - tipdog32, on 06/15/2009, -0/+2I really like the fact there are so many submissions. I might be one of the few people on here but I find a lot of great content/articles and really appreciate it!
- Astheria, on 06/15/2009, -0/+2The real question is how many are pros, because most of the articles that have front paged are of poor 'weekend-wannabe-designer' quality.
- ShiftyBizniss, on 06/15/2009, -0/+2I hope you do... see I don't mind articles like this being duped, cuz I'm on Digg almost every week day and I've never seen this.
- theaceoffire, on 06/15/2009, -1/+3<bliNk><MaRqueE>Like this?</BLINK></marQuee>
- insertAliasHere, on 06/15/2009, -0/+2Creativity is absolutely important, no doubt about that. But you can't sacrifice important design principles like usability just for the sake of "creativity." I'll use the same example: pink text on red backgrounds may be "creative" in that it doesn't follow any established principles, but it's painful to read, and nobody would want to visit your site.
Show me to an example of creative web design and I'll point out all the principles of design they followed. Even if they didn't do it knowingly, they did it instinctively. These rules don't make good design; observation of good design made the rules. It's idealistic to say that design isn't bound by rules, it makes it sound so artistic. But in the real world, there is such thing as bad design. - LtAction, on 06/15/2009, -0/+2#5) Avoid Zapfino on all non-wedding invitation work.
Oops! D: - insertAliasHere, on 06/15/2009, -0/+2I'm sure that their server works for the audience that they are used to having. I know that my server would break under the pressure of Digg.
- MrAwesomeMan, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1Didn't I see this exact same page on Digg about 3 months ago?
- RobertWright, on 08/13/2009, -1/+2Server must have Crashed, the site's down!!
- Nouman6, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1How so? Can a site not be great without a large product image and multiple fonts? I'd say heck no. Half of the web today is a complete mimic of what is now considered the 'norm' of site design. Give me creativity any day over this.
- spect3r, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1Some people might be developing locally ala apache/sql/php and doing client work without having anything live...
That said, if you're a web designer - why don't you have the $3 a month for hosting :P - AVigorVermin, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1this poll is biased because this article is about good website design.
- Lumbre619, on 06/15/2009, -1/+2oh, that's just CRAP.
- techobo, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1haha awesome observation. I'll never forget his tips now. :)
- insertAliasHere, on 06/15/2009, -1/+2Very good point kierucom.
Web design, for the most part, is all about presenting some kind of content in a visually pleasant way, while maintaining utility and ergonomics.
There are a set of rules that tend to make good design. It's not that design is so much bound by these rules, as that these rules have been observed from what we do consider good design, and explained in a way that others can follow them.
There is such thing as bad design. For example: pink text on a red background. Nobody could call that good design. Contrast is a "rule" because it naturally makes things more readable and more visually appealing, not because someone arbitrarily decided it is a rule.
What Nouman6 said is idealistic, but not realistic. - KeiOthic, on 06/16/2009, -0/+1This is certainly nothing new. This applies to print design as well as anything else. Desktop publishing, etc.
But it's good that it goes through thorough details on how they apply to websites. - inactive, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1#5 IE not needed for the site to work properly.
- juw1, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1The repitition idea was interesting - especially the site with the green "hills" in the header and footer.
- Aurabolt, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1You don't have to actually design to digg an article... maybe people are just interested..
- Destinyx3, on 06/18/2009, -0/+1This is nothing new, but not a lot of people apply the techniques mentioned.
- rodneygiles, on 06/15/2009, -0/+1Site is working fine now!
- Callum2008, on 06/16/2009, -0/+1don't put unrelated google adwords ads on your page just because you want to earn money.
- Icefreez, on 06/16/2009, -0/+1If you are not sure if that counts.. then no it does not count.
- MtheoryX, on 06/16/2009, -0/+1Safari with Adblock FTW
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