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- Vedlen, on 06/26/2009, -1/+16I like how in http://lesscss.org/ all the examples take more time to write than the "regular" CSS
- opitica, on 06/26/2009, -3/+13you know, css really isn't difficult. most properties can be applied to any element. just understand how box model works in FF and IE and try using margins in lieu of padding (as that ***** with the box width in IE).
the css "frameworks" are a solution to a problem you never knew existed - Jektal, on 06/26/2009, -1/+9Eh, not enough details on what each "tool/resource" actually is, and how it's useful.
- EricOfTheJames, on 06/26/2009, -0/+8Besides Haml and Firebug Lite, I don't think any of these tools are that useful. I'd rather just type my own CSS. I don't understand why people make tools for something that's not that complex or difficult to begin with.
- zip000, on 06/26/2009, -0/+5OK, can someone tell me why I need these things? I put together and support the website for my company, but it isn't my whole job. I use php, css, html, xml, and javascript and I just can't see the need for most of these. Are they for people who don't know how to code well or do they actually provide you with something that you can't do easily enough with out them?
The only framework that I've used much at all is pear. - judicar, on 06/26/2009, -0/+5@jetkal
Want to know what that actually looks like?
Left
Center
Right
This is a perfect example of why people have to jump through hoops css to make a relatively simple layout. - Jektal, on 06/26/2009, -1/+5@judicar, Yes, sorry, I forgot float:left;
Still not that hard. - allfatherblack, on 06/26/2009, -0/+4Anyone who thinks CSS needs to be easier would probably like someone else to dress them in the morning as well.
- allfatherblack, on 06/26/2009, -2/+5Only so many comments so far, but most of the people saying this article is good make it clear that they don't know what they're talking about. The ones who say it's not exceptionally helpful, however, typically evidence that they DO know what they're talking about.
Just sayin' - dazparkour, on 06/26/2009, -0/+3I want to know who needs a 15 column layout.
We obviously forgot to say that people are allowed to use tables for data in a table. - B1665r, on 06/26/2009, -2/+5And do your css reset...
- beelzvw, on 06/26/2009, -5/+8Fabulous roundup! I want to try it all!
- rccarter, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1That's what she said. Err, wait.
- srg13, on 06/26/2009, -1/+2Don't usually expect to see anything new on posts like these, but I was surprised - http://inlinestyler.torchboxapps.com/ looks pretty useful - It usually takes ages to format newsletters because most email readers cut out CSS in the head or body...
- MariamWilliams, on 06/27/2009, -0/+1Very great collection, My Favorite subject CSS
- srg13, on 06/27/2009, -0/+1CSS frameworks are stupid, but I really like the PHP framework Codeigniter - it has a whole lot of plugins for database access, pagination, templates (I use a third party one) and so on, which make development a lot faster, and it's all MVC which encourages far better structured code.
- MiDri, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1as php frameworks go cake is pretty good, But I mainly use it for it's "Active Record" feature.
- yor1001, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1Yeah I couldn't agree more judicar.
The simplicity of css, is a large obstruction in its evolution. - FredFredrickson, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1You have to look at it in the context of it replacing HTML though - with HTML it's a piece of cake to set up a cross-browser compatible columned page. CSS might look cleaner in the source, but isn't as easy to set up.
- acdtrux, on 06/26/2009, -0/+0Am I the only one who figure out why all these ***** frameworks that are cropping up? Why the hell do I need them? PHP and CSS and Javascript aren't that hard to figure out.
Why should I spend a day or a week getting familiar with some framework when I could have used that time to just build what I wanted to. And it'll still be understandable two years later when this fad framework has died away, and to any coder not just people who know that framework. Plus I won't run up against some arbitrary limitation that wasn't made obvious at the outset, and any scalability issues. The fact that someone decided to go and build an alternative framework is proof that X framework might not be as awesome as they tell you.
But everyone gets all excited so I decide to dive into the documentation of these frameworks to see what the fuss is about. Apart from jQuery which saves a huge amount of time, I don't see how these things really save any time or increase readability (assuming we are not writing brain dead code). If anything, they obfuscate things from competent coders, and waste time in bringing them up to speed. - MiDri, on 06/26/2009, -1/+1@judicar
<div id='container'>
<span class='column'>Left</span>
<span class='column'>Center></span>
<span class='column'>Right</span>
</div>
.column {
display:inline-block;
width:33%;
}
Inline-block should work on ie6+ as long as you use it on already inline items. - whytey, on 06/26/2009, -2/+2There seems to be a new tool each week its hard to keep up!
- chadsmith729, on 06/26/2009, -2/+2You think they could get the link right for BluePrint CSS. Smashing Magazine, it's http://www.blueprintcss.org/ NOT some crap "architect" blog entry that looks like it was done by a 5th grader.
BluePrint is a lifesaver if you are using CakePHP. Just drop it in and it will override the naming conventions, making CakePHP look way better automatically. - lord2800, on 06/26/2009, -5/+4Design me a 3-expanding-column fluid CSS layout that uses no extra markup, then. I mean, it's really not difficult, right?
- judahhertz, on 06/26/2009, -3/+2Nice CSS resource, thanks!
- ripter, on 06/26/2009, -2/+1If you use jQuery then you have Sizzle already.
- sampath3, on 06/26/2009, -3/+2This is best collection of tools i think, I need to try it.
- Jektal, on 06/26/2009, -3/+1<div id='container'>
<div class='column'>Left</div>
<div class='column'>Center</div>
<div class='column'>Right</div>
</div>
#container { width: 100%; }
.column { width: 33%; }
What's so tough about that? True, CSS can get complex and cryptic sometimes, especially when you push past what CSS2 was designed for, but these still aren't complex problems that require 35 tools to "save your life". - eitelj99, on 06/26/2009, -4/+1That's a lot of info to sift through - better get started...
- mofo10169, on 06/26/2009, -5/+1One of the best posts I've seen on SM.
- luk4s75, on 06/26/2009, -7/+0Me too! This collection really sounds amazing!
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