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- forevernomad, on 11/16/2008, -3/+55Use the goddamn reply button! You know who you are.
When will designers learn Flash for the sake of Flash is not its purpose. Flash is overused as a design element without function.
Some of these sites are amazing, but I personally dislike any website that needlessly uses flash to get the design across. - inactive, on 11/16/2008, -4/+36Grunge?
Really?
Needs more flannel. - inactive, on 11/16/2008, -8/+36Oh shut up.
"Grunge design"...sigh. - CraigReed, on 11/16/2008, -5/+24My favorite was probably the Ali Felski site, It had the grunge feel but it was still a clean design and not overly cluttered.
- svivian, on 11/16/2008, -1/+19I love the design of the Firefox home page.
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -1/+11It's when the page loads real slow, then goes really fast, then loads slow again.
- mtwolf, on 11/16/2008, -12/+21grungalicious!
- thedez, on 11/16/2008, -4/+12Most of these look like they were cut from a template or done by the same company.
Yeah, about as grunge as Abercrombie and Fitch. - inactive, on 11/16/2008, -4/+12LOL! Faded t-shirts and riped jeans have been mainstream for a decade. Where you been? Under a rock?
- GodofTheWired, on 11/16/2008, -5/+13I like the part where they all look the same
- Vodd9, on 11/16/2008, -2/+9Trendy for the sake of getting and keeping the interest of your visitors. That's what design is all about.
- svivian, on 11/16/2008, -2/+8The worst thing in my eyes is that Flash may soon be indexable by Google, meaning that too many will start using it again unnecessarily.
- astorix, on 11/16/2008, -2/+8Yeah, grunge is trendy, but I like it better than the "web 2.0" glossy ick we've been seeing for years. At least grunge has some personality.
- sjbdallas, on 11/16/2008, -1/+649 bucks for a t-shirt?
- NadesXe, on 11/16/2008, -1/+5When I used to hear the word "grunge" I would think of Kurt Cobain. Now I think of David Carson.
- pilotjcf, on 11/16/2008, -1/+530 Beautiful Examples of Web Pages My Friends Want Me to Promote
- JonnyCasino, on 11/16/2008, -16/+20These are absolutely beautiful web designs! I love the Von Dutch design because it shows how grunge can be used subtly to give a design an edgy look. It also shows a fairly popular, "mainstream" company adopting grunge (or at least grunge elements).
- Smuikas, on 11/16/2008, -2/+5Except when the contents should be indexed and deep-linkable (e.g., menus for restaurants). That stuff is getting better, and I think flash can be (somewhat) indexed now, but lack of deep-linking breaks the internet.
Bar/restaurant/etc sites are informational. They tell you where the restaurant is, the bar is, what the menu items are, upcoming events. Designers' websites are informational. They tell you how to contact the designer for rates, portfolios of their work, and so forth. This is all informational. It's advertising too, but that information is important. You don't build a website that just says, "Buy stuff from X! The chicken is delicious!" .... that's what banner ads are for. You build a website to inform the consumer about their options from you, so they can make an educated choice and (hopefully) choose you.
Because of this, flash for content that is not animation, games, etc, is irresponsible and idiotic. Lack of indexing, lack of deep-linking, lack of being semantic, all prevent machine-indexing/semantic-analysis which holds back the internet - especially search. - jave8u, on 11/16/2008, -3/+6Those clothes are X PENSIVE.
- nyde, on 11/16/2008, -3/+6Ha that's my favorite too! I find most grungy themes overly done. There's a reason clean designs are popular, they're usable.
- squelched, on 11/16/2008, -1/+4not even
- roboticbrian, on 11/16/2008, -0/+2sorry but trendy isn't interesting. I don't think that usability is necessarily everything in web design, but rehashing some tired stylistic crap is hardly going to keep people coming back.
Think of your content, and what you're trying to say. Then make something out of that. "Grunge" doesn't say anything. - misterparry, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2Grunge is ssoooooo 1992
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -1/+3Flannel patterns everywhere!
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -0/+2Dangling Dingleberries
- drjennings, on 11/16/2008, -2/+4Several of these are nice. Grunge is the creative response to overly ordered grid based design. It is suppose to be freeform and chaotic, yet still be planned. It is always a tough thing to create organized disorganization.
I think the most difficult goal of a grunge designed website is to maintain a sense of priority. When you land on a page and everything screams "read me first", the user can lose focus and miss what you need them to see... which is a real negative for site optimization, especially on retail sites.
But several were successful at overcoming that issue. - squelched, on 11/16/2008, -4/+6first off these don't look messy, have anything related to grunge and most of them look bad anyways. they look way too clean to be "grunge."
buried as inaccurate - chaos7, on 11/16/2008, -1/+3sometimes there is no reply button
- damnitdaniel, on 11/16/2008, -1/+3Agreed. I had to email her to let her know how well done the design is.
- sClubDevin, on 11/16/2008, -0/+1the Biola undergrad one was the best, too bad its a christian university in southern california. the opposite of what i want from college.
- kohl34, on 11/16/2008, -1/+2It looks like half of them are using the same template.
- FujiwaraTofu, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1Drag and drop software has become the death of good web design. In order to do good quality designs, it's important to understand the backbone of the work you're doing. What if something messes up, and you don't know how to fix it since you didn't learn any HTML? (I'm not implying you didn't since you said you did that site with CSS and HTML.) Then you're screwed. And besides, Flash isn't really about CSS or HTML anyway, it's about Actionscript. You can't make good Flash either by just dragging and dropping. You need some good, functional Actionscript to go with it.
- ChaSchva, on 11/16/2008, -11/+12Designing + grunge occurs to me as somewhat of an oxymoron...
- Smuikas, on 11/16/2008, -1/+2(flannel ( pearl jam ) music )
.. hard to do venn diagrams with parens... - Smuikas, on 11/16/2008, -0/+1It'll be indexed, probably. But it still won't be deep-linkable. Which is annoying as all get-out.
- apophenic, on 11/16/2008, -2/+3It's sacrificing usability for eyecandy. If the actual content of your site can't keep them interested, some "grunge design" isn't going to keep them coming back.
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -0/+1Jeremy Spokane, Washington.
- TriplePlay2425, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1The first one (Cogitature) looks horrible. It's just the background of the top part, it's not the least bit attractive. Everything else looks wonderful.
- theadvinci, on 11/16/2008, -1/+2Trozo Gallerys design rocks.
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1Depends how you define your brand of design. I will tell you that most design is learning towards mixed media. However it depends on the industry and context.
- inactive, on 11/16/2008, -2/+3When I think of Grunge, I picture heroine needles, flannel, Seattle, and that homeless guy with the "Ninja sign"
- apophenic, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1Images are okay, but text is better. I didn't know who this Jacob Nielsen guy was before now, but after scanning his Wikipedia article, yes, basically.
And yes, a white background is best. I have a bookmarklet that I got from Ironic Sans that reformats any page with obnoxious colors to black on white. It's much more readable that way. - mamboboy, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1Beautiful. I'm crying.
- powatom, on 11/16/2008, -1/+2Surely 'grunge design' as a bit of an oxymoron?
- inactive, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1Great list but... how did they miss http://wefail.com/ ?
Flash is friend not foe. - observer1, on 11/16/2008, -2/+3these are cheesy, I wouldn't look twice at any of these b-team designs
- SuicideMouse, on 11/17/2008, -0/+1I don't know why you got dugg down, I think telling a person that you like something they've done is a great thing to do and is often appreciated. I don't believe enough people do that kind of thing.
- eazye123, on 11/16/2008, -1/+2David Carson is the man
- bedake, on 11/16/2008, -1/+2Looks more like hipster decor than grunge IMO, its only missing copious amounts of nautical stars...
- punchinelli, on 11/16/2008, -1/+2@ the Von Dutch Originals girl: I'd hit it!
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