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- kinseyincanada, on 11/14/2008, -20/+157i dont understand this comic at all, i guess im not geeky enough :(
- wallitron, on 11/14/2008, -1/+101If it's a weapon you guys have the right to bear arms. In other words, your right to use crypto couldn't be taken from you, it would be protected by the second amendment. If you can use crypto (encryption) for all your internet traffic, it can't be filtered by the government, they can't filter what they can't see.
So all this time us technos have been fighting to make encryption free, to empower everyone to protect their own privacy. The government wanted the ability to stop the average joe from hiding and communicating in secret, claiming crypto was as dangerous in the wrong hands as a weapon. - gbarger, on 11/14/2008, -0/+47In a number of countries, decent cryptography (scrambling of communications so only the sender/receiver know what's going on) is illegal. For instance in the UK, if someone sends or receives an electronic communication that is encrypted, they can be compelled to provide the key to decrypt that communication. Different types of encryption are actually illegal to export outside the United States and it has been argued that encryption is actually a weapon. The comic is saying that if we agreed that encryption is a weapon, then when the government tries to take away the right ot use it, the 2nd amendment right to bear arms can be invoked.
- gorgoroth666, on 11/14/2008, -13/+55ok, I don't get it neither but here's my 2 cents:
The isp is filtering content so the users can't see sites about say "democracy" on the web.
Crypto is the art of hiding messages in code so the communications can be crypted to use freely any website.
RSA, a very good technic of crypto, was classified as a war weapon and as such was forbidden.
If the crypto community had lobbied to count it as a weapon and then used the second amendment ( the right to bear arms) it would probably have been easier to make it legal.
This is too far fetched to be funny IMHO. - jeremyduffy, on 11/14/2008, -6/+42Explanation: Crytpography, the technology that keeps messages private, is considered a weapon of war since being able to see other's messages and transmissions can be critical to winning and if we CAN'T because some American developer shared super-strong crypto that even WE can't break, then that's bad. So the government classifies crypto as a weapon and people can be jailed for posting details of super-strong encryption techniques to the web.
The second amendment is the right to keep and bear arms. Therefore, even if the crypto was considered a weapon, technically we should still have the right to use it. It's kind of clever really :) - theaceoffire, on 11/14/2008, -1/+35Crypto is superman's dog who got his own series. So all this time we have been trying to get him out of the kenel, but we now realize we could use his heat vision to cook snausages, so we want him back in jail so we could use the right to bear arms to get the arms of a grizzly, break in, and force him to cook our snausages.
- zwgraham, on 11/14/2008, -7/+35Don't comment here, it's a dead zone
- raynar, on 11/14/2008, -1/+19For those who dont know about the 2nd ammendment...
http://www.bustedtees.com/secondamendment - davidlow, on 11/14/2008, -2/+19Translation of the comic:
If the U.S. government wants to insist that cryptographic algorithms be classified as "munitions" to get around the first amendment (right to free speech), then we can just protect our rights using the second amendment instead (right to bear arms). - buddyw, on 11/14/2008, -2/+18I think that it's clear from these comments that digg no longer has a computer/technology/nerd user base.
- poogy21, on 11/14/2008, -11/+26WILL SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME?
- brad016, on 11/14/2008, -17/+30Yes, someone please explain - Digg me down, hell, just click the down button on all 50 comments on this page.
- Kakumeikeahi, on 11/14/2008, -5/+18Do you know what google is?
- inactive, on 11/14/2008, -1/+10You have to love that "right to arm bears" amendment.
- PabloIV, on 11/14/2008, -0/+8That's Krypto, with a K
- SDeluxe, on 11/14/2008, -1/+9Here you go, have a digg
- moletimer, on 11/14/2008, -6/+13Oh come on people, even I got it and I'm from the UK!
- gw8t3st, on 11/14/2008, -0/+7It was an Aussie explaining American rights to a Canadian.
- inactive, on 11/14/2008, -0/+6I agree. Defend our front page.
- Tbyrd073, on 11/14/2008, -0/+6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA
- Kakumeikeahi, on 11/14/2008, -2/+7That is definitely the best comment claiming this specific comic is the best XKCD.
And I've seen a lot. - binky79, on 11/14/2008, -0/+5... for some reason.
When I first saw xkcd on Digg i thought it was funny so i added it to my rss reader. I like using Digg because it shows me news and new things, and i think its funny that it ends up getting cluttered with the same ***** all the time, APOD, xkcd, Zero Punctuation. Don't get me wrong these are all great things, but does every single one of them need to be submitted to Digg? I guess leaving this comment every time is just my passive aggressive way of protesting something i like. If that makes sense then please kill me, no funeral. - zaffir, on 11/14/2008, -3/+8Considering the demographic this comic is aimed at, it's not hard to believe that 95% of the viewers knew what it was talking about. It's not that complicated.
- internetswasyes, on 11/14/2008, -0/+4Just like garfield, or family circus.
I thing the "comics" that are not supposed to be funny you are referring to are called graphic novels. - Harabeck, on 11/14/2008, -1/+5What are you smoking? We may yet have to overthrow the government, hard to do that with encryption.
- wallitron, on 11/14/2008, -2/+6It's clever humour for those that didn't need the explanation.
- ajbl, on 11/14/2008, -0/+4But we can be fun... at LAN parties...
- trdrstv, on 11/14/2008, -0/+4"yeah, but the people have deemed it appropriate for the government to limit possession of certain weapons. (no personal or family nukes, sorry). If they wanted, the same could have been tried for crypto."
@NJank
The basic problem to defining Crypto as a munition is at it's core, crypto is MATH. The Government making a form of Math illegal is just a bizarre concept. - PleaseJustDie, on 11/14/2008, -0/+4I like PGP, its pretty good.
- sexybobo, on 11/14/2008, -0/+4It isn't sad since he is from "Mumbai India" according to his profile. Do you know any of the laws in india?
- Gooba, on 11/14/2008, -0/+4It is also hard to do it without encryption because they can know your every move. You need more than just encryption, but it is important. Our code talking Navajo Indians as well as the breaking of the Enigma cipher were vital to winning WW2.
- bureksir, on 11/14/2008, -0/+4"The kind of humor I like is the thing that makes me laugh for 5 seconds and think for 10 minutes."
@wallitron:
Thanks for the info, man. - Mujokan, on 11/14/2008, -1/+5Also, the 2nd Amendment doesn't cover export of weapons, which is what the PGP fight was about. In the end they got around it using the 1st Amendment, publishing it as a book. Export of books is covered.
- nesagwa, on 11/14/2008, -2/+6Absurdity is part of humor.
I hope you dont sit around watching TV shows, movies, whatever yelling at the screen "THAT COULD NEVER HAPPEN THIS ISNT FUNNY!" - inactive, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3Ha. Hilarious! It's a weapon, so we have the right to use it!
Just like we have the rights to fully-automatic weapons with armour-piercing rounds, high-powered explosives, and nukes! :S - TheWhiteOtter, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3Also in the UK its illegal to tell anybody that you've had to hand over your key! So good luck fighting against it if you cannot even tell the Judge or your Lawyer.
- xaeon, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3@cardyology
An assbishop, perhaps? - NJank, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3yeah, but the people have deemed it appropriate for the government to limit possession of certain weapons. (no personal or family nukes, sorry). If they wanted, the same could have been tried for crypto.
- Ninjab3ar, on 11/14/2008, -2/+5Horrendously corny joke..... Too clever for its own good.
- honeybrass, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3ouu, ou, click me! click ME!
- Navicerts, on 11/14/2008, -2/+5Isn't data encrypted any time I visit an "https" site? Would that fall under the scope here of what the government dislikes?
I don't understand you can't even do things like online banking without it. It is like suggesting seat belts be made illegal because it may save the lives of bank robbers in get-away cars.... or am I totally missing the point? - joearchy, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3I dugg you up for the lulz induced by the first chunk of your word vomit,
Then dugg you down twice, (once to take back, and once bury) because the other comics aren't as clever. - Saprazzan, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3haha thanks for the explanation. now its hilarious!
- DirtPile, on 11/14/2008, -13/+16::barfs with rage::
- honeybrass, on 11/14/2008, -0/+3hard to do it without. You don't want them reading your plans now do you?
- honeybrass, on 11/14/2008, -1/+3what will they use instead of "it"? non-human individual (possibly abstract) unit?
I really hope they find "it" quickly. - AznAstronaut, on 11/14/2008, -0/+2FYI you're my personal hero. Keep fighting the good fight!
- sexybobo, on 11/14/2008, -0/+2I understood it and I hang around a lot of CS:S people and they are dumb as bricks.
- Wormwood, on 11/14/2008, -0/+2You can't get your calls. It's like you don't even exist!
(Cue spooky music...) - SDeluxe, on 11/14/2008, -2/+4And I usually don't read articles associated with most sports, or dumb things that carry headlines that don't appeal to me. However, you don't see me commenting that I don't like them. Does it burn your eyes to scroll past?
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