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- MikeonTV, on 12/10/2007, -13/+194I would like to hear an argument to why anyone should cosplay.
- Sererena, on 12/10/2007, -15/+121I've seen some good American cosplayers, but they're harder to find... and just because we don't see any pictures, I'm pretty sure there's some really horrible Japanese cosplayers, too.
The whole Japan > America attitude of this article strikes me as a bit weeaboo-ish. - punchingjudy, on 12/10/2007, -2/+83It's already starting to lag, so here you go.
http://duggmirror.com/comics_animation/Why_America ... - darksky100, on 12/10/2007, -2/+64I'm guessing these are the best Japanese pictures the author could find and the worst possible American pictures. Probably not a fair comparison.
- cell00, on 12/10/2007, -1/+58reasons WHY america should cosplay (not entirely work-safe):
http://xs322.xs.to/xs322/07501/1155851837607.jpg
http://xs322.xs.to/xs322/07501/1167706763381.jpg - whymanwhy, on 12/10/2007, -12/+63Nobody should cosplay
- Elranzer, on 12/10/2007, -17/+51It's just like the otaku (whites who think they're Japanese) who think the Japanese voice acting in anime/games is better than the English voice acting. It isn't. The Japanese voice acting is just as corny. They just think it's better because they don't understand Japanese (I can).
- halavais, on 12/10/2007, -3/+36If you understand Japanese, then why are you translating "otaku" as "whites who think they're Japanese"?
- katrayun, on 12/10/2007, -5/+34What? People who spent less time/money on their costumes don't look as good? This is facinating!
- doctordbx, on 12/10/2007, -10/+39Dugg down for being a ***** ***** article on a ***** ***** server.
- elitexero, on 12/10/2007, -9/+36Why ANYONE shouldn't cosplay ---> Nothing screams I'm a 28 year old outcast who lives in my mother's basement and collects comic books like cosplayers. LARPers are one step below that, and below them are Warhammer players. (Seriously who spends 150$ on a piece of plastic you have to paint yourself?)
- effinboy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+26Of course, this is kinda like saying that Morgan Freeman could play a black man, better than John Travolta could. I can almost guarantee you that most American Batman cosplay would look much better than most Asian.
- urpwnd, on 12/10/2007, -1/+25it's not really that it's Japan > USA so much as it's the Japanese have a lot more practice. A walk through Shibuya or Shinjuku (both areas of Tokyo) on a weekend day will pretty much end that argument. You'll see kids on the streets hanging out with their friends in the most amazing cosplay outfits. Right alongside them you'll be sure to spy some of the gothic lolita crowd as well. Of course, any day of the week you are likely to see girls in full-on gothic lolita gear in the more fashionable/hip areas of the city... some of them dress that way nearly all the time.
I think it's also a money thing, fashionable clothes are outrageously expensive in Japan. And if you are used to buying boots and pants that are 20,000YEN (close to $200 US), I think that spending the money to buy the right ***** so your costume ends up looking good isn't that big of a deal. I've talked to some cosplayers and gothic lolita girls, and they'll easily spend $500+ on making a good outfit. Japanese seem to take costumes/uniforms/traditional clothes pretty seriously, from corporate buildings to mcdonald's, it's all about the presentation. - Anub1s, on 12/10/2007, -6/+29America? Try the world. There is no reason why anyone should be that geeky. None. Period.
- cyberpope, on 12/10/2007, -2/+25Didn't anyone ELSE notice that the Japanese cloud was cosplaying the Advent Children Cloud and not the FF 7 one, same goes with Tifa. Hell the Japanese Sephiorth isn't even Sephiroth, it's Kadaj, totally different character >_>
I'd have to guess this was written by someone who's not a fan of the media to not easily spot the differences. - waynetheman, on 12/10/2007, -2/+25I think the article author is a little biased. That said, I still walked away with a few thoughts looking at it....
1) In Japan, it's far more socially acceptable, on the whole, to be really, really, really into something. Most Americans will run from anyone who they think is "obsessed" about their hobby.
2) The Japanese culture just has a higher tolerance for "strange" than American culture in general. Keep in mind, those characters being cosplayed are Japanese-created characters in the first place. Then again, maybe the Japanese think we're strange for the way we... um... DO we do anything that could be remotely compared to cosplaying anime?
3) Even if it is a little "strange", it doesn't chase away more mainstream Japanese. Look at some of the hotter gals cosplaying in those pictures. Now find me any American girl that good-looking who would be caught dead even admitting they know what cosplay is about. Sorry, I know this one will get me dugg down, but I throw the challenge out there... - bluemist, on 12/10/2007, -3/+24I can gather some pictures of bad Japanese cosplay too, like horrible male cross-dressers in female high-school uniforms.
- OpenFuture, on 12/10/2007, -4/+24Here's your argument: http://morbidoptimism.com/images/goodRikku.jpg
- chrisxkelley, on 12/10/2007, -6/+254chan | digg
see the wall between them?
apparently not. - Maynza, on 12/10/2007, -6/+25This is obviously meant to bash americans, but I think in reality it just shows how rapped up some asian people can get into that stuff. Take for instance the first example, the american. Do you think that guy eats sleeps and breaths cloud, no, but he thought it would be fun to dress up like him and probably made the costume himself.
- AceLy, on 12/10/2007, -0/+18That site seems to imply Americans are fatter, too.
- Midnightbrewer, on 12/10/2007, -5/+22I both speak Japanese and live in Japan (5 years now), and I can tell you that there is no comparing the Japanese to the English voice acting. With the exception of the English voice actors hired by Pioneer and Bandai (Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, and Tenchi Muyo, for example), most of them are pretty bad. I think it's partially to blame that the Americans who do it are dead-set and determined to precisely match the mouth movements while not losing one iota of meaning in the translation, with the upshot being that the actors typically end up sounding rushed and just a bit hyper.
- jordan314, on 12/10/2007, -2/+19Chii from Chobits!
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g10/Junipop/PD/c ... - sdphost, on 12/10/2007, -3/+20Yeah pretty much he found really good japanese cosplayers some of them are payed actors and compares them to the worse cosplayer of fat people. It is true japanese cosplayers are usually better but that article is stupid.
- Incognito, on 12/10/2007, -3/+20Buried cause you obviously slanted the pictures as much as possible
***** cosplay is ***** cosplay it knows no race or creed - icepick314, on 12/10/2007, -5/+22i say if you are going to do something, then do it all the way...
do spend more than 30 minutes and $5 making up costumes...
http://www.adellacosplay.com/ - SuperGreen420, on 12/10/2007, -4/+20Anyone else LOL at American Cloud Strife? An accurate costume... but something was lost in translation.
- shadydentist, on 12/10/2007, -0/+15Dressing in costumes is not as socially acceptable in America. Nevertheless, those would make kickass Halloween costumes. And yes, most biased selection of pictures ever.
- smacksaw, on 12/10/2007, -3/+17No it isn't. If you understand Japanese beyond the language and to the point of the culture, there is no direct translation for "otaku" because we do not have the social guilt and repression the Japanese have. You may have introversion, but otaku is completely different because of the social and cultural pressures that are uniquely Japanese.
- Mononuclear, on 12/10/2007, -1/+15I think all cosplay is retarded but It looks like all the Japanese ones are professional models and the American ones are just normal fans. I doubt any of those Japanese ones even know anything about the character they are dressed up as. Some agency got professional costume designers and professional models to dress up at the convention so the real fans can drool over how cool the costumes are.
- moisie, on 12/10/2007, -2/+16To be fair, many of the "bad" ones are clearly going for a more animated look, which even with a lot of money spent on them is never going to look real. The "good" ones have obviously had a lot more money spent on them and are worn by much more attractive people. If the costumes were worn by the opposite people would you be saying the same thing. Oddly, the official Lara Crofts played by models with proper fitted costumes and accessories tend to look better than the people who dress up for fun out of their own pocket.
I personally find the whole thing stupid but that's not the point, this article being ***** is. - invinciblenow, on 12/10/2007, -1/+15the American Rikku... I'd still hit it
- Gir53457, on 12/10/2007, -5/+19Believe it.
- BlackJackJester, on 12/10/2007, -3/+16Give or take the quality of the article, I have a few things to recommend here.
1)Hair matters - The Japanese do everything possible to make the hair work...the Americans just wear a crappy wig (in these pictures)
2)regarding the american Cloud - the whole point is to imitate what it would be if in real life (see - naruto one) not put nerf on your head
3)Skinny japanese girls are way hotter than fat american girls.
4)Attention to detail is a must. - inactive, on 12/10/2007, -3/+15The Japanese Tifa is really hot. The Japanese Vincent is really cool looking.
- Anub1s, on 12/10/2007, -5/+17You "cosplay" don't you?
- AWooWoo, on 12/10/2007, -0/+12"I am into costume business not costume play" -The Monarch
- Murdats, on 12/10/2007, -1/+13there is already a team on the way to your house.
- Eupatorus, on 12/10/2007, -0/+11East london is gay. West Side!
- hexydes, on 12/10/2007, -0/+10Days this might be ok: October 31st.
Days this is not ok: Every day that is not October 31st. - smacksaw, on 12/10/2007, -1/+11I dunno...I dig it when my wife puts on sexy costumes and ***** me in character. I guess I'm a loser.
- betterth, on 12/10/2007, -2/+11Retarded, while it's true that there are a lot of ***** American cosplayers, I've been to AWA (Anime Weekend Atlanta) for about seven years straight now and I've got pictures of some just draw-droppingly amazing cosplayers. Guys, girls, of every nationality (Japanese, American and beyond) have put together some incredible outfits.
As with ANY con, 90% of the costumes are gonna be total misses, but there are always some great ones.
Heres some pics from AWA that others have taken:
http://animebelle.com/gallery/album143/PICT0114
http://animebelle.com/gallery/album143/PICT0216
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17198517@N00/25133559 ...
http://animebelle.com/gallery/album143/PICT0161
http://animebelle.com/gallery/album143/DSCF0084 - punchingjudy, on 12/10/2007, -2/+11Um yeah, because those American cosplayers weren't even slightly obsessed... or something. I think if you're willing to make yourself look hideously stupid all for your love of a video game, you're a bit "wrapped up".
- LokitheComplex, on 12/10/2007, -0/+9What are the conditions like? What do we get fed? Do we get to mate? How often is the hay changed? It might be step up.
- aptiva, on 12/10/2007, -1/+10Yes, let's all conform
- openartist, on 12/10/2007, -1/+10But uh...Americans are fatter, or were you being sarcastic? I'm american and last I went to France last year I was stunned...because I realized I was used to seeing fat people everywhere and there weren't any. I was stunned that all the women were lean and hot...in France, what americans consider "chubby" is obese.
- inactive, on 12/10/2007, -0/+9Healthy women.
- PieterOpie, on 12/10/2007, -4/+13I don't get it. They all look like perfectly ordinary Americans to me. Each culture has its own slant on fashion and taste. I live in Australia and we have only recently begun to wear clothes so I am no position to judge..... They are rappers or something. Is that right?
- sotopheavy, on 12/10/2007, -3/+11Man, some of those American chicks should have gone for the kirby or pac-woman look. ugh so Fat!
- boran, on 12/10/2007, -3/+11It does not help that the US cosplayers are like twice the weight of the Japaneese ones.
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