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- CanadianCheese, on 01/09/2009, -15/+343Christ, if we can not trust the historical accuracy of a comic, then we are lost! LOST!
- CopernicusCenji, on 01/09/2009, -84/+317...except that this method of banking/lending wasn't used for some time after the founding fathers....you know what? ***** it, pointing out what's wrong with this cartoon isn't even worth the time. Buried for horribly inaccurate.
- Mujokan, on 01/09/2009, -10/+97But... it looked so historical! You mean it was just some kind of... joke? Maybe pointing out how things have changed from the founding fathers' intentions, through the device of an ironic alternate world?
- REAtoday, on 01/09/2009, -5/+55freezing his balls off in Valley Forge
- billricardi, on 01/09/2009, -8/+53FFS people. No, of course the founding fathers didn't set up the Fed itself, and of course they didn't see China as a great place to get loans back then.
The point is that the founding fathers were RICH LANDOWNERS! The 10 percent of the population with a net worth of 1000 GBP (the millionaires of the time) who owned at least 1000 GBP of land made up over 90 percent of the Continental Congress! Over half of them were lenders. Over half of them were also lawyers. The star examples:
1) George Washington was the biggest prospecting landowner on the continent! He married a rich widow, got her land, and was able to buy choice plots of land from exploration trips, to flip them later or hold. He was worth $750,000, an unheard of amount of wealth on the continent.
2) Ben Franklin had a staggering net worth of $150,000 from land ownership and printing alone.
3) John Hancock was heir to a $350,000 fortune in land and business assets. He was the richest landowner in the South.
The point of the comic is that THESE were the guys with money to lend, and land to sell. It was in their best interests to maintain the status quo, and lend to those who were to become the 'middle class'. - bpwrinn, on 01/09/2009, -16/+56And I'm one of those angry suckers!
- seanieb, on 01/09/2009, -1/+32http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
- graemee, on 01/09/2009, -4/+29Always make sure you have a good straight man for any scam.
- kelmaster1, on 01/09/2009, -4/+251791 was the First Bank of America with Alexander Hamilton as chair. Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr opposed the bank, citing many of the things similar to this comic. Really our badass presidencies which helped create a good America were Jefferson and Jackson... They both hated to banks, and spoke about them as slithering scoundrels who get their way by methods of subversion.
It doesn't really matter, European and British investors have had their hands in America's pocket since the beginning. Late 19th century their was an effort by British and European wealth to bring America into world affairs. They succeeded roughly around 1913 with US involvement in WWI and the creation of the Fed (see JP Morgan, Churchill, Lusitania).
This comic is historically inaccurate but sadly the overall jist is somewhat true... - jbworld, on 01/09/2009, -6/+26And once it collapses, we can move to China and start over again...
- Phalanxia, on 01/09/2009, -5/+25It's a Masonic symbol, as the main designer for the note happened to be a Mason, and there were no national symbols (E.g. Eagle) for the USA as there are today.
That's it, nothing more, nothing less. - TrojanWarrior89, on 01/09/2009, -12/+32Where the ***** was Washington when this meeting happened?!!?! >:O
- TKDEE, on 01/09/2009, -2/+20Oh, how awful. Did he at least die painlessly? ...To shreds, you say. Well, how is his wife holding up? ...To shreds, you say.
- dondara, on 01/09/2009, -5/+18Hey, you dropped your tinfoil hat.
- Badoozie, on 01/09/2009, -0/+13I'm curious to know Marmaduke's take on the financial crisis.
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -12/+24Wait did someone mention the Fed? I'm sorry, I forgot this is Digg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve
btw. The Federal Reserve is neither Federal nor does it have any reserves. - caoimhinn, on 01/09/2009, -1/+13Saving the children, but not the British children.
- FearlessFreep, on 01/09/2009, -6/+18and re-written by the whiners
- Denatsu, on 01/09/2009, -1/+12TEH INTERNETZ R SRS BIZNEZ!
- Olelefty, on 01/09/2009, -13/+24It's a comic for crissakes, so get over yourselves, OK?
- inactive, on 01/09/2009, -3/+14And doomed. Don't forget doomed. dooooomed.
- TVarmy, on 01/09/2009, -0/+10I think the joke is really that the government depends on debt and making deals like a scam artist, and the founding fathers probably didn't intend that. Think of it this way: Imagine if they were sitting around the table talking about how they hoped the government would set up a prison that used torture in the Middle East.
That wouldn't be funny, but the idea is the same. Here, the humor mostly comes from the fact that they're seen by history as selfless idealists who hoped to create the closest government system to a utopia that could realistically sustain itself, and here they're acting like a bunch of seedy business men building an elaborate scam. - ThermiteTerrace, on 01/09/2009, -0/+10Don't diss The Franklin.
http://plutocrat.org/displayimage.php?album=13& ... - copypastry, on 01/09/2009, -0/+10We were colonized by the egyptians, duh.
- bonk2k, on 01/09/2009, -0/+9Well put. Thanks to you, my palm remains at a safe distance from my face... for now.
- northernmunky, on 01/09/2009, -3/+12even I buried you
- grillcover, on 01/09/2009, -1/+9good criteria. here we go:
scathing truth: the way america currently runs and funds itself was decidedly NOT what the founding fathers intended or dreamed.
bitter irony: well, the presentation of the above idea, suggesting that they were.
i know it's tough to imagine, but your very criticism is the very point and joke of the cartoon. buried for being horribly resistant to humor. - MLGLies, on 01/09/2009, -0/+8John Locke will lead us!
- Phalanxia, on 01/09/2009, -2/+9The Eagle is a heraldic sign. The Romanovs and Hapsburgs used a variant of it, and implied nobility. The Bald Eagle was not an American symbol at that point in time.
- CopernicusCenji, on 01/09/2009, -9/+16No, it's just that when you do political satire, there's usually supposed to be some bit of scathing truth, or at least bitter irony. I guess that's the point I was getting at.
- LeepII, on 01/09/2009, -14/+21Actually America was formed to get out from under the influence of European bankers. It wasn't until 1913 when the treasonous Federal Reserve act was "passed" that we started back on the scheme. The Federal Reserve is directly responsible for the last great depression and for this one.
- odigity, on 01/09/2009, -3/+9The Federal Reserve is the means by which the elite increase what liberals mistakenly call the "wealth gap".
Hey, liberals! We libertarians have been trying to explain to you how the free market naturally leads to equalization of wealth as well as increased absolute levels of wealth for everyone, and how it's actually the government to blame for nearly all our problems, not the free market - the Federal Reserve being the most powerful example.
When the ***** are you gonna pay attention, for *****'s sake? We want the same ends, you just don't understand that you have the wrong means, and it's driving the world to ruin! Please, for god's sake, listen. Go learn Austrian economics. It'll take a week. - nmezib, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6your comment is more ironic than the comic itself :P
- bghs2003, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6Are you comparing a crappy comic to the amended Constitution?
- gwaggy12, on 01/09/2009, -1/+7That's not how the "Jump the Shark" episode happened.
- oo7b0nds, on 01/09/2009, -0/+6really? constitution, bill of rights par with this comic?
really? - Jeepinator, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5John Hancock was a ship owner from Boston.
John Adams was just a Lawyer with a farm and small practice. - ByteGuerilla, on 01/09/2009, -1/+6Not to be a *****, but the U.S. didn't join the Entente in fighting Germany until 1917. The Lusitania was sunk in 1915, and the two years spent calling the Germans pirates and telling them that unrestricted submarine warfare was a mug's game doesn't really count as 'getting involved' in world affairs.
- nydwarf, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5Rough!
- hagfish70, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5Yeah let's pick out inaccuracies from a ***** comic. Awesome.
I would hate to be your kid. "Walking on walls?! I don't care if he is Spiderman, this is scientifically impossible! Bobby, your grounded!" - groo68, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5no, it's because most of us have a google search bar built into our browsers.
- Phalanxia, on 01/09/2009, -0/+5It's just a Quango. Big deal.
- vicsvenge, on 01/09/2009, -7/+12That's not funny at all.
- eklife, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4benny lava?
- 8bitflu, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4Benthem....
- skanton, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4Right you are! Who else can afford to sit in Philadelphia for 4 months to write a constitution?
- Squidly, on 01/09/2009, -3/+7Stupid. I want my 1 minute back.
- fuzzmeister, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4Putting illustration around political statements doesn't lend them some kind of magical immunity to criticism.
- djdavetrouble, on 01/09/2009, -4/+8News flash, 5th Avenue runs parallel to Lexington, and Lexington begins above 23rd street, so it never intersects with 5th Street.
- dracostimpy, on 01/09/2009, -0/+4Why so serious?
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