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- badtiki, on 04/05/2009, -14/+224They dont just copy their own movies, I ran across this a couple months ago, looks like they ripped off Lion King, what a disappointment.... http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm
- dha07030, on 04/06/2009, -0/+120The clouds are bushes!
- GregLoire, on 04/06/2009, -0/+106There's that one episode of The Simpsons with Bleeding Gums Murphy ( http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Bleeding_Gums_Murph ... ) where Mufasa appears in the clouds and says "Kimba, I mean, Simba." I was only 12 when the episode originally aired in '95, and I thought the joke was just that he mispronounced the name...
Just a few months ago I learned about the Kimba thing, and I suddenly remembered that old Simpsons episode and thought, "Oh! Now I get it!" - centran, on 04/06/2009, -0/+71This is due to rotoscoping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscoping
They would film real live people dancing, clapping, playing instruments, etc. and then project the real life images frame by frame and "trace" them. It is not truly tracing obviously but using the real life footage as a guide to make the animation movements look realistic.
The reason why all the films copy each other is because they didn't re-shot the stock footage for each film. It was stock footage that got re-used over and over again. - Greengoo, on 04/05/2009, -8/+78Jasmine can clone my animation any day...
- anubis2night, on 04/05/2009, -2/+52I would sort of expect this in some instances, all of the the images are from old movies from the 70's and a few from the 50's. As noted in article these were templates and in a time when everything was done by hand some sequences like dance movements would be best served by following those sequences rather than recreate a whole new one for every film. I would imagine a sequence like that could take 6 months by hand and these films usually didn't come out every year so I doubt anyone would have ever noticed, but great find. Personally I'm more disturbed by how similar many of the Disney characters are to one another, especially in the 80's and 90's the villains look to be done by the same animator, which is fine but you can see certain styles he liked.
- wontstoptalking, on 04/06/2009, -2/+47I thought they were talking about this:
http://digg.com/d1ihVr
(Digg url service is awesome and unexpected! Not sure about my feelings of the Diggbar, though...) - damntourists, on 04/06/2009, -0/+44yes, even disney has budgets.
most people dont catch these, so why not? saves you a lot of time to rotoscope previous dance sequences. - duniyadnd, on 04/06/2009, -0/+38Nothing is original. Why is copying such a big deal today?
- indubitably, on 04/06/2009, -2/+33i remember when animation looked like drawings done by hand. those were good times.
- spookyttws, on 04/05/2009, -0/+31I forgot how many random dance sessions spontaneously broke out in the Disney World. I guess the only human analog would be Bollywood movies.
- TheLakeTroll, on 04/06/2009, -0/+31This happens in animation all the time, it's called saving money.
- mushrooms538, on 04/06/2009, -9/+36I refuse to believe it. The Lion King is 100% Disney magic, and nothing else. STOP DESTROYING MY CHILDHOOD!
- UbIwerks, on 04/06/2009, -0/+24I'm a traditional animator and completely agree. People don't realize how much of a shoestring budget Disney worked with throughout his life. He never had 'piles' of money. Finances were a continuous stress for him and his brother.
- raydeen, on 04/06/2009, -4/+26Wow. So Disney could do copy and paste decades ago BY HAND, but Apple still can't figure out how to do it electronically on the iPhone.
All joking aside, I would bet that the animators had stock footage that they worked off of for scenes like that and simply used the same reference material time and time again knowing that back then, most people wouldn't notice that the same moves and angles were being used. - SRSco, on 04/06/2009, -7/+27The Diggbar sucks.
- immatellyouwhat, on 04/06/2009, -0/+19I'm not high but Snow White's dancing scene looked oddly realistic.
- SRSco, on 04/06/2009, -0/+15Which big words were you using? Disappointment? I dugg you up. I had never heard of Kimba the White Lion. Thanks.
- zroy, on 04/06/2009, -2/+16Speaking of clones, this has been dugg before.
- caitlinwoodward, on 04/06/2009, -5/+18Kudos to them for being able to reuse sequences.
- UbIwerks, on 04/06/2009, -0/+13Though Walt never wanted the news to get out, Snow White (and the prince) where rotoscoped, or 'traced from live-action stills'.
- palehorse864, on 04/06/2009, -5/+16 Yo dawg. I heard you liked rotoscoping, so we rotoscoped your rotoscopes, so you can animate while you animate!
- NeoNcP, on 04/06/2009, -1/+12Smart. I never would have noticed, and I'm sure it saved them money.
- inactive, on 04/06/2009, -0/+10They copied Hamlet, not Macbeth.
- gdo01, on 04/06/2009, -0/+10http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Hood_(1973_film ...
It's all uncited hearsay but good info on why this happened nonetheless. - gelato822, on 04/06/2009, -3/+12why reinvent the wheel?
- ChromaVita, on 04/06/2009, -1/+10No it's like saying one style of art is better than another style of art. They're different methods with different results, but neither is inherently better.
- drmangrum, on 04/06/2009, -1/+10Meh, Ariel (with legs) is hotter. But, then again, I AM a sucker for a red head.
- SRSco, on 04/06/2009, -6/+14OMG NOW I GET IT! lol
- wdw25, on 04/06/2009, -1/+9Nothing is original. Why is copying such a big deal today?
- latrosicarius, on 04/06/2009, -1/+9You guys never heard of Kimba? I remember this little controversy in the 90's when the Lion King came out. The irony is that disney single-handedly ruins the copyright laws in the US to prolong its intellectual property of Micky Mouse, yet feels free to rip-off scenes verbatim from Kimba. You should see some of the side-by-side comparison shots from Kimba & the Lion King.
- Cannonballkid, on 04/06/2009, -1/+9I don't know who was digging you down that page makes it a no brainer that the Lion King is heavily based off Kimba. Maybe they were Disney execs (or worse Lion King fanboys lol).
- SRSco, on 04/06/2009, -1/+9I turned mine off immediately. I'm just telling wontstoptalking that it's a piece of *****. This Digg url service he speaks of is also not awesome.
- JEbel72, on 04/06/2009, -1/+8Ah Jasmine... The hottest of Disney's princesses!
- Kali075, on 04/06/2009, -0/+7I might have noticed this if I had seen Robin Hood, Aristocrats, or Sword in the Stone in the past 10 years
- enkideridu, on 05/15/2009, -1/+7did you even open up the page?
if you're too lazy to read it at least look at the images on there before going off about how they only feature similar looking lions - akshay626, on 04/06/2009, -0/+6It's Hamlet
- theaceoffire, on 04/06/2009, -0/+5I know that there are a couple of scenes from "Finding Nemo" that use the same model/animation from other portions of the same film...
I figure that as long as they keep the story flowing, its fine... probably reduces cost and gives more time for other parts. - blix797, on 04/06/2009, -1/+6Believe me, this is not a big deal. It's their animations, they can copy them all they want. Just enjoy the damn movie.
- iFrix, on 04/06/2009, -1/+6It's clearly not... But so what? The Lion King i still a great movie no matter who came up with the idea. How is this destroying your childhood.
- brsteve88, on 04/06/2009, -1/+6I was going to digg you up but now I think I'll bury you because you're arrogant. And yeah, there's no big words there.
- neonoodle, on 04/06/2009, -0/+5not exactly. If you watch the video, not all of it was taken from live action reference. A lot of it was animated and then they copied the original animation - like that segment with the Mogli chase from Jungle Book. If you have a similar sequence in your current movie that's also from an older movie, why not reuse the animation? It saved time and money not having to rethink and redo complicated timing and staging. This is standard practice in tv animation, but Disney uses it more subtly where it hasn't even been noticed for years.
- antdude, on 04/06/2009, -2/+6See these:
1. http://www.prodisney.ru/clones.php or http://www.prodisney.ru/clones_en.php from http://digg.com/design/Check_out_Disney_s_Reuse ...
2. http://www.koreus.com/video/disney-ressemblance.ht ... from http://www.videosift.com/video/Disney-Steals-From- ... ...
3. http://www.hemmy.net/2006/04/26/disney-animation-r ... - matt.rubin, on 04/06/2009, -0/+4direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL6FYxIuJlA&eur ... - iFrix, on 04/06/2009, -0/+4I like how in "Enchanted" they parodied themselves. :D
"Why is everyone dancing?", "Are those birds singing along?", "How come everyone knows the lyrics even though I never heard the song before?"... Brilliant if you remember these old movies - jo21, on 04/06/2009, -1/+5copying string line from memory it's too much programming for apple.
- theaceoffire, on 04/06/2009, -1/+5Go to your profile, settings, Viewing Preferences.
You can Change the DiggBar from "Always" to "Never".
^_^ I think the worst part about it is that NoScript blocks the iframe by default, and if you don't allow the iframe to load and try to close the "DiggBar", you get sent to an error page. - ChromaVita, on 04/06/2009, -1/+5did anyone ever tell you that two characters from two different movies didn't move in the same way? Because if not you weren't actually lied to.
- mhuggins, on 04/06/2009, -0/+3You just blew my mind.
- jdames1980, on 04/06/2009, -0/+3Yeah, I was impressed by it also. No wonder they reused the animation in other movies.
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