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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -22/+136it's sad that that is considered child abuse these days
- randomvictim, on 10/12/2007, -16/+110@shtonkalot
There isn't a single comma in all of your post. - Bluntzilla, on 10/12/2007, -18/+85How ironic it is that were not afraid to send people to die for wars and religion but were afraid to punish our own children...
- Strangers, on 10/12/2007, -5/+65I think that the point was kids are being diagnosed with adhd here and there wrongly.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+53See: http://diggtheblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/video-thumbnails.html
It's a new digg feature, and a nice one at that. :) - Bgoui, on 10/12/2007, -10/+48wahts that crazy youtube thing beside this
- INHUMANITY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22People are always commenting about how the older seasons were better. I've found the later ones to be funnier, smarter, and wittier in general.
Just out of curiosity what did you like better about the episodes in the past season? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22I'm diggin' the Youtube thumbnails.
- Lexus30, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24@4degrees "Since when is learning differently a disorder?"
since the FDA found out a way to make money off of it - mikemac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20I loved this part of the episode when I first saw it.
"Please send away for this free brochure, entitled, 'You Can Either Calm Down, Or I Can Pop You In The Mouth Again'. Thank you." - opnickc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21I have ADHD, and though this wouldn't work on people who actually have it (though I think it is very overdiagnosed in children, so it could work on many of them), it is quite funny.
The problem is, if you do have the disorder, this wouldn't work at all. When I sit down to study (when I'm not on meds), my mind is in too many places to get anything worthwhile done. Even if I can focus exclusively on my, say, textbook, I'll constantly be flipping pages, seeing how much I've done, seeing what I have left, getting frustrated at my apparent lack of progress, trying to remember what the prof said earlier in class, rereading what I just read because the information didn't sink in, etc. etc.
I was diagnosed and started taking meds recently, and the difference is unbelievable. I can sit down, open up a textbook or notes, and study. I'm not constantly thinking about this or that, just taking in the material.
Unfortunately, I still have to make myself sit down and study in the first place ;) - blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18No, it's ADHD.
- Dweller99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17nostalgia sure isn't what it used to be.
- mabhatter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16marysuze,
I agree, physical discipline is definitely not bad for kids.. for small kids it's all you really have over them anyway. They only point I'd differ with you on is that parents need to be angry with their kids. As a parent it's your job NOT to be angry with them... it's your job to take care of them, do it without the hassle of being mad about it! that's the wrong time for being physical. You have to have discipline as a parent when meeting out punishment as well. smacking anywhere but hands or butt is boarder line abuse... it may not be abuse, but you shouldn't make a habit of it. If you can't take time to give a proper spanking, they DON'T do it until you can... that shows kids YOU have discipline, as well as gives them time to think about their actions. - Forever-Zero, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I personally have ADD, and this would never work on anyone with ADD or ADHD. No one who I talk to about ADD ever understands how it is possible for someone to not be able to sit down and focus on something, no matter how hard they try. There is really no way to explain it. The best way that I can think of would be to compare it to trying to watch the TV in your head, but the channels keep changing.
There have been so many times when I have been in a situation where paying attention was absolutely critical, and I really WANTED to pay attention, but I just couldn't do it. I zoned out about half way through the conversation.
Honestly though, I can really see how anyone who hasn't experienced ADD or ADHD first hand would find this video hysterical, I even chuckled at it. On a normal kid who is able to choose if he/she wants to focus or not was acting this way, then a good smack would be just what they needed. However, a kid with ADHD can't control whether they focus or not, so smacking them around would do nothing. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18"it's sad that that is considered child abuse these days"
But only in AMERICA! =D - INHUMANITY, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Absolutely classic! Better then Ritalin with side effects that cause you to see pink Christina Aguilera monsters!
- slippeh, on 10/12/2007, -15/+28It isn't child abuse shtonkalot, it's called parenting (the good kind of parenting that works).
- Lexus30, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16@opnickc
"Even if I can focus exclusively on my, say, textbook, I'll constantly be flipping pages, seeing how much I've done, seeing what I have left, getting frustrated at my apparent lack of progress, trying to remember what the prof said earlier in class, rereading what I just read because the information didn't sink in, etc. etc."
when it comes to something you dont want to do, thats called "normal" - tony23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@clownguy: I consider you stupid. Happy now?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
if i'm not mistaken - hoppdawg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11
What's worse?
Giving naturally-energetic-and-bored-in-the-classroom children regulated doses of amphetamines (adderal, dexidrine, ritilin...) every single day so they sit quietly in a drug induced state?
Or slapping them around a few times when they go way over the line? - techlinks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9So so true. As in, I large percent of kids with "ADD or ADHD" don't really have it, they're probably just spoiled brats since they're used to their parents giving them whatever they want.
Although I agree a little physical disipline is fine, that is a little extreme. The best way to disipline kids is simply consistency and making sure they relize what they did wrong, and why they're being punished. - opnickc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9"when it comes to something you dont want to do, thats called 'normal'"
Yes, but it affects me even with stuff I do want to do. Not everything I want to do, but most anything requiring concentration. For example, many of my personal books (on subjects that interest me) go unread, video games unplayed, etc. Of course, I have no trouble surfing the web, but I usually keep at least 10 tabs open in firefox, and am constantly switching between them.
What I technically have is predominantly innatentive AADD (Adult ADD) . I'm not bouncing off the walls, or even jumping around in my seat like the kids in the video. And quite honestly, I think is total BS that children can be diagnosed with ADHD. While I myself could've been diagnosed sooner, I don't think an accurate diagnosis could've been reached before high school. Yet I'm told most people are diagnosed before the age of 7(!).
I'm sorry, but 7 year old kids are supposed to be hyper and innatentive. They're kids - and this is coming from somebody with ADHD. - somnus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Actually it's not. There was "Attention Deficit Disorder", but the correct terminology is now "Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder".
Also, try digging this: http://www.digg.com/obvious/Studies_Prove:_Research_before_opening_your_mouth_makes_you_look_like_less_of_a_dumbass_later_on_when_someone_disproves_your_comments_with_30_seconds_on_Wikipedia.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhd - kyledavis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Because people with ADHD typically have significantly above average intelligence, and just calling them "stupid" is a misdiagnosis.
- jamessavik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The difference between ADD and HDHD:
Attention Deficit Disorder is just that: difficulty in focusing. A kid with ADD is often not even noticed by teachers. Teachers often label them as slow or daydreamers. They are, most of the times, quiet and not prone to cause any disturbance. MANY MANY times this goes undiagnosed until adulthood as it is quite difficult to diagnose correctly.
Attention Deficit/ Hyperactivity Disorder is very different. Children with ADHD find it exceedingly difficult to sit still. They are constantly in motion, have impulse control problems and are prone to abuse by ignorant adults. They are a nightmare for teachers as they create chaos in the classroom. ADHD kids will often be the class clown. Their behavior often alienates them from other kids as the ADHD kid is a lightning rod for trouble.
Both of these conditions are very real. My best friend growing up had a severe case of ADHD. I often had to put him back together after his father beat his ass which he did on a regular basis.
It NEVER worked. Although he eventually grew out of the ADHD symptoms, he did NOT outgrow the effects of the abuse he suffered because of it.
While I'm sure that ADD/ADHD are overdiagnosed, it is quite real for some people.
Popping a kid in the mouth IS NOT THE CURE. - tony23, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@crass - you're an idiot.
@berty - having trouble concentrating is something that happens to everyone from time to time. ADHD is a chemical imbalance in the brain. Basically, there are 3 brain chemicals: norepinephrine, serotonin, and dopamine. Someone with ADHD has lower levels of norepinephrine and dopamine in their brain.
The reason this causes "attention defecit" is because the brain wants to have higher levels of norepinephrine and dopamine - which it gets from stimulation. By constantly changing the input (ie - changing the focus of concentration), the brain stimulates itself to produce more of the chemicals it needs.
Stimulant medications work by raising the amount of dopamine and norepinephrine in the brain, so the brain no longer has to constantly shift attention in order to balance its chemistry.
Does that answer your questions?
@crass - just saw your second comment. You're still an idiot - da_bradler, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17I believe Maddoxs shirt said it best: http://store.theworstpageintheuniverse.com/shirts.html#PARENT
- kyledavis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9ADD as a diagnosis still exists, and ADHD is basically "ADD with Hyperactivity", which is a common variant of ADD. Usage of either acronym is perfectly valid.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -23/+31Well it's complicated to discuss this, but I was smacked sometimes when I was a kid, not because I misbehaved a lot, but sometimes kids ARE f*cking annoying. If you're a parent and you don't admit that, you're totally in denial.
Later I found that I have ADD to a certain degree that makes me be more politically/socially rebel and have more disconfort with authority than the average person. No I don't use drugs, and I'm not a criminal, I am still just a nerd like when I was a kid, but I'm aware of certain things that maybe everyone else is too, but they make me more angry. Plus, I have serious trouble putting up through college knowing that 90% of the teaching system is green, stinky *****.
Long story short, a child that doesn't get a smack once in a while is unprepared for the hard life and ***** world that will take her, in my opinion. They also need something to be angry at, and it's actually normal to be angry at their parents in certain phases, so why is it not normal for parents to be angry at their children? It's not very natural, or healthy, to grow up without 4 or 5 smackings. Life is not always about rewards. It has ups and downs. What matters is what those kids will do when the downs come. THat will set appart the men from the boys. - TheZorch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11ADD and ADHD is caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. How is hitting a kid with these problems a way to solve it?
My son has ADHD and without his meds he can't focus on anything for more than a few seconds. With them he's getting better grades than he ever has before and he isn't going wild anymore like he used to. - dukrous, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's become very easy to diagnose kids with ADHD when they're just lazy daydreamers. The difference is subtle, but there is one. I suffer ADD (non-hyper), but I've learned to use it to my advantage...multi-tasking comes naturally to the AD(H)D mind.
Personally, I like Carlos Mencia's joke about it. If the kid can sit down and play Halo for 8 hours, he doesn't have ADD. :) - NinjAlt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@Crass22
Sorry, I had to mod you down for going through all that trouble to try and type something coherent out and still failing by using "ur". - kyledavis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7> What is the difference between ADHD and just having trouble concentrating?
ADHD = "just having trouble concentrating" times 1000
> Do the meds you're on also improve the concentration of a person who does
> not have ADHD?
Yes, to a person without ADHD, the meds do "improve the concentration", but to a person who genuinely has ADHD, the meds practically turn you into a completely different person. A relatively normal and sane person. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yeah, I wasn't diagnosed until I was 38. I'd had problems focusing throughout my entire life. It's not like the meds make it all better or something. I mean, I still have problems, but it's a *lot* better. My girlfriend can tell within five minutes if I forgot to take my Adderall in the morning. My head isn't racing and I'm not changing the topic of conversation every five seconds. I had a boss 20 years ago who asked me one day what it was like to run hot and cold all the time. I was shooting a TV show at the time and some weeks I'd be on top of it and some weeks I was just kind of along for the ride and couldn't focus well enough to pull all the threads together. I wish I'd known then what I know now about treatment and how ADHD works. Not sure a slap in the head would have helped.
- chuckg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Well, I personally have ADHD and OH, that dog has a puffy tail. . . come here puff
- berty38, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I really want to know the answer to the following questions. They are not rhetorical:
What is the difference between ADHD and just having trouble concentrating?
Do the meds you're on also improve the concentration of a person who does not have ADHD? - berty38, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4tony23, just saw your comment and i was in the process of editing my previous comment when my timer ran out.
Thanks for the scientific explanation. That answers my questions. It's not giving short people ladders, it's actually fixing a physiological problem. - siouxmoux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Or Don't do what Mr. Tweek in Situation, Give coffee to is his son Tweek!
- nfotxn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah I'm sure this is totally hilarious if you don't have kids. I like Southpark but it's totally unfunny when they're trying so hard to be edgy like this. It just comes off as ignorant.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Violence is also used by insecure individuals to boost their fragile egos into a malformed "toughness." and You're an *****
- tkltangent, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3working link as of today: http://www.lolcenter.com/videos/TV_Clips/South_Park_-_ADHD
- 574lk3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4im awaiting diagnoses for add and tourettes (and no i dont swear thats coparolia (spelt wrong)) and possible ocd's, im in my 30's,
the belief/joke expressed in the clip was exactly how i felt until i learnt more about add and realized it is real.
over here in blighty its very difficult for a child to get diagnosed let alone an adult (2 adult centres in the whole of uk),
some docs arent even fully aware of it.
tv shows like this dont help, its depressing.
but i do love south park, at least they pick on everybody. - kb9vgr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Ive been diagnosed with both and nearly forced into the creativity killing drugs then i learned that its not all bad i can do many more things at once than many of my peers. BTW I'm 20 and about to finish college
funny i get more work done when i have 3 different class books open 2 computers and some random mix of music going and use voip or the phone
lets see you normal people do that
oh yeah i've been on the deans list 3 semesters running - DrumsNWhistles, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This was my father's cure for ADHD when I was growing up. Effective as long as you don't mind undoing all the harm it did.
(PS to c4p3n: It's actually not misdiagnosed as much as you think, but it is undertreated in more than 50% of diagnosed cases, according to a recent independent study) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Throughout elementary school I saw lots of bright kids forceably drugged. They didn't give a damn about the teacher's authority and saw no reason to sit quiet and do something everyone hated. The teachers said the kids needed to be doped up or moved to a different school, and few parents resisted; "take some more meth, and grow up thinking your special."
- albatross5000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Without ADHD I'd be totally screwed. My work heavily depends on it!
@shtonkalot: I hear you. ADD can be harnessed into a strength but without that patience and care/love you mention, some add kids get so beaten down by adults that are angry that they can think faster, their egos / resolve get torn to shreds making it quite hard to succeed.
Let's ***** face it... for ever adult out there that says "kids have it easy", there's a kid suffering.
but,
@randomvictim: HAhahahahah - esuomynona, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@randomvictom
He couldn't pay attention long enough to check for commas. - Tsujigiri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just attended a seminar yesterday about understanding poverty and we touched upon this subject while talking about the behavioral traits acquired from living in the various economic levels of America. Many of the social skills that manifest in a child diagnosed as ADHD are actually learned social traits that are largely no longer taught in our society. There are true cases of ADHD out there to be sure, but many of the children diagnosed these days have simply never been taught those crucial social skills that encompass focus and concentration. They aren't covered in standard school curriculum (our schools don't teach social behavioral stuff anymore) , and since many parents cannot teach them for various reasons those skills simply don't exist for those students.
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