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- idavidcrockett, on 04/08/2009, -9/+739I'd copy scenes too if I had to draw every frame by hand.
- dracoregis, on 04/07/2009, -12/+704Those films have been around for what 60 years? and only now have people realised that they're copied.
Seems like a job well done be Disney if you ask me. - Dumbledorito, on 04/08/2009, -9/+578Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-the WORLD!
- letdowntourist, on 04/08/2009, -31/+406The irony of this is that college humor stole this video without even reediting the title sequences. It's just a plain lift from a video that was on digg not a week ago.
Dugg page: http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2009/04/disneys-an ...
Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL6FYxIuJlA&fea ... - lololol1, on 04/08/2009, -10/+366I shat bricks.
- Laughto, on 04/08/2009, -9/+318Well at least everyone's favourite Disney film, The Lion King, never did anything like thi-
http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm
Oh. - dnields, on 04/08/2009, -3/+265It's called rotoscoping.
Nearly every animation studio has employed the technique at one point or another.
They still have to draw out each cell for the new movie.
The only thing that is constant is the original live-action reference shots. - smedrick, on 04/08/2009, -5/+208I made a statement in the original article about how this is a very common practice in the animation business. All of the scenes presented in this video are, for lack of a better term, filler. They don't contribute much to the story and are usually used to bridge scenes and keep a good flow. Unfortunately for the artist, these filler scenes require a great deal of work...usually more work than an average scene. Drawing and painting cells for dance scenes takes a considerable amount of effort because they involve several characters, in full-body motion, on the screen at the same time. It was not uncommon for an artist to pull gestures and expressions from his archive to create the filler. There is nothing "lazy" or "dishonest" about this. It's a very smart, economical way to do one's job...much like a programmer reusing code from previous projects.
Besides, to complain about something like this would be like complaining about a Hollywood actor "reusing" facial expressions or mannerisms. It's more like a signature, if anything. - EMcCutchan, on 04/08/2009, -4/+164I've known since childhood that Robin Hood and Jungle Book used the EXACT same characters. Bear. Snake. Foxmonkey.
- DeathRay2K, on 04/08/2009, -6/+149Really? I've never done this!
- omgwtfbbq420, on 04/08/2009, -8/+132I'm sure every lazy ***** on digg would have made unique work for every painted cell. /endsarcasm Seriously do you know how much ***** work hand-drawn cartoons take? I'm sure you do since digg is full of know-it-alls.
- DavidGX, on 04/08/2009, -12/+131He said THE WORLD, not a small percentage of people willing to overpay for inferior hardware and support.
- rti9, on 04/08/2009, -1/+108Naruto and the Cowboy Bebop movie:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/chaloto/Naru ... - jayrod422, on 04/08/2009, -1/+107i thought they made money by selling sex to little girls who dont know they are getting sold sex?
- punkcat, on 04/08/2009, -3/+97that isn't computer animated, you are still seeing a ***** load of work.
- doctechnical, on 04/08/2009, -2/+91Stop eating your legos!
- pkon, on 04/08/2009, -0/+84Besides, audiences and especially kids will never notice these differences. It is not as if the entire movies are the same, just the filler scenes.
- saucedmike, on 04/08/2009, -0/+76This is not a "CH original" it was submitted by a user.
- newerakb, on 04/08/2009, -0/+70It's like how almost no one noticed for 20 years that the clouds and bushes were the same model in the original mario bros nes game.
- krum, on 04/08/2009, -45/+113Who gives a *****? Everybody does this.
- inactive, on 04/08/2009, -8/+74People have known this for a long time actually.
Especially Digg where this gets front-paged all the time. - cubicledrone, on 04/08/2009, -9/+72Pixar doesn't. Studio Ghibli doesn't.
- inactive, on 04/08/2009, -1/+64Dude, the Lion King is just Hamlet.
- RumpleForeskin3, on 04/08/2009, -4/+64So when the snooty cat, and the courageous dog, with the celebrity voices meet for the first time in reel three, that's when you'll catch a flash of Tyler's contribution to the film.
- inactive, on 04/08/2009, -6/+62When little girl's ginies tickle, Disney makes money...
- ZeroCubed, on 04/08/2009, -2/+58It's called rotoscoping. What they do, is film actors, then trace the film into drawings. It's likely they used the same stock footage over and over. A lot of disney movies are rotoscoped (like Sleeping Beauty for example) - not that they'd admit to it. Disney prefers to call it "video referencing", and insist they don't trace film. Of course, if Disney wanted to pretend they weren't rotoscoping, they should have been smart enough not to use the same damn footage all the time.
There's nothing wrong with rotoscoping - lots of animators use it, and it's also used in many music videos. Kanye West's music video for Heartless was rotoscoped. You can do it really easily in Flash or Photoshop. It's mostly used for really complex scenes, like dancing and fights. Those are really hard to animate, and there aren't many people who have learned to do it straight from brain to paper, because it involves a real understanding of human movement, the dynamics of a fight/dance and the synchronization between two rapidly moving characters. It's really hard to do with detailed animation. Some of the best fight sequences I've scene, were done with stick figures. - Bermygoon, on 04/08/2009, -0/+55
If you asked me what rotoscoping was I would have thought it was a lot more exciting than that! - inactive, on 04/08/2009, -3/+57Hah, that was made of win. So none of Disney's biggest hits have been original stories. All either jacked from asian shows or from expired copyrights; then when Mickey Mouse's copyright is about to go up they write a big fat check to congress and get the copyright laws extended.
- cubicledrone, on 04/08/2009, -4/+50"Pixar is known for reusing models in movies... typically it's considered an 'easter egg'."
Sounds like apples and oranges. - thatsmyaibo, on 04/08/2009, -2/+47Exactly. It's no different that using the same character models or physical actions in video games. It's a short cut that doesn't take away from the underlining theme. If Disney can produce work that entertains millions and it doesn't affect me negatively in any way, more power to them....well they don't really need more power but you get the idea.
- macfan93, on 04/08/2009, -1/+41Ouch... my childhood...
- davidg11, on 04/08/2009, -1/+38Well *****, I liked the Jungle Book.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 04/09/2009, -0/+37Actually, in my day, being 2D, they were called "sprites" because 3D "models" hadn't been invented yet (for gaming applications at least).
/old - Disease, on 04/08/2009, -7/+43Mac fail
- DephexTwin, on 04/08/2009, -0/+33I guess if they re-use all of their animation, it leaves him with plenty of time to submit to Digg all day!
- MOJIRA, on 04/08/2009, -3/+35If it's computer animated, you are still seeing a ***** load of work.
- daschupa, on 04/08/2009, -5/+37Well at least the plots are original...wait...
- Feckinmik, on 04/08/2009, -2/+33Command all you want. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen. Now when you have control... you get results.
- Maver1c, on 04/08/2009, -1/+32Do you have any idea how collegehumor works? this was a user-submitted video for *****'s sake.
- pezoamo, on 04/08/2009, -4/+34That was some of the most depressing music i've ever heard
- Feckinmik, on 04/08/2009, -0/+28The bushes are green clouds!
- gametavern, on 04/08/2009, -5/+32This has been on the front page a few times already this year.
- Loonacy, on 04/08/2009, -2/+28The clouds are white bushes!
- Th3Wh1teRabb1t, on 04/08/2009, -1/+27Doesn't MrBabyMan work at Disney as an animator? I'd like to see him weigh on on this
- Mpwns, on 04/08/2009, -2/+28its super mario bros all over again.
- MasterGrief, on 04/08/2009, -0/+25I'm not saying you're wrong, notman, but is there a better example? I think the copied bird models in that short were designed to be like that. You know, just part of the overall look of it.
- deepthought21, on 04/08/2009, -3/+28Animation motion guides are standard practice in traditional cell animation. This isn't cheating or a bit surprise people, this happens all the time.
- discofrisko, on 04/08/2009, -6/+31I posted this 20 days ago...
http://digg.com/lbv.php?id=11602444&ord=4 - slapdinger69, on 04/08/2009, -0/+24i agree, i was thinking along the same lines about programmers. If i had to create new code everytime i did something ...forgeddabout it. and no one noticed this until now really so its not THAT obvious. Its not like they put a dress on the bear and called her snowhite!
- tenchiws, on 04/08/2009, -4/+27So I'm guessing none of you reuse code libraries between your programming projects too then, huh?
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