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- rarkai, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32Quoting scripture is one of the reasons so many people hate Christians. Stop it.
Jesus (for those whom believe) didn't carry a bible around thumping people with it. He was just nice and accepted everyone.
That being said, i wish Atheists and Theists would both shut up and we could all just get along and bash the PS3 together. - Corrosionx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26George Carlin was raised catholic. Any intolerance towards religion he has was earned.
- wendelgee2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Oh you poor oppressed Christians who make up almost 80% of the US population and hold 99% of elected offices. Cry me a ***** river.
- lebe0024, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26If you're a Christian, please do not complain about being a victim of persecution. You're not. Enduring George Carlin does not compare to being cut in half.
- rodrigo74, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20"Psalm 14:1 "The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."
Luke 12:20 "But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your soul is required of you; and now who will own what you have prepared?'
Anyone can write a book and say "everything written in this book is true because I say so, and you're a fool if you think otherwise". If I ever have to write a "sacred" book it certainly would have this circular statement written in bold letters in the very first page, looks like it's a winner formula. - artofwar420, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Dude, he is not saying he thinks of the sun as his god, he "worships" the sun, big difference, he thanks it for the life it gives to the planet, the sun doesn't feel happy or angry because George thanks it or not, the sun is a star, he doesn't pray to it, he knows praying is only intention directed towards anything really. Besides he prays to Joe Pesci and he's real and does *****.
- artofwar420, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19Not only funny but true.
Oh and check out the intro in his website. :) http://www.georgecarlin.com/ - CaseyUCF, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11maybe because stories of arks, giants, virgin births, resurrections, etc. etc. are impossible??
- danieldrehmer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12indeed... Quoting the scriptures is just lame. It's like saying:
"This christians are stupid. Like Richard Dawkins said: christians suck!"
this is no argument. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@tonage
Dawkins does not preach. He is trying to use logic and facts and debate the subject, unlike your book written by whoever claiming to be the word of a being that created us all and has power over us all. That book also states about itself that it's completely true (which has been debunked already million times) and cannot be questioned.
Dawkins always, just like any other reasonable scientist, states that all what he is teaching could and should be examined and questioned. He also, unlike the Bible, does not pretend that he has answers to everything.
"I think the truth is, you are afraid of what those scriptures say when you compare them to how you live your life."
Well, yeah, I should have had some slaves by now and sacrifice some bull too. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12@sparks2
Let's say I, out of the blue, believe that you should be killed. Would you respect that?
Just like your beliefs, mine are not found on anything else but on what I want to believe so they are equal.
Think about that and realize how pointless and dangerous faith (=blind believing in something without using facts and logic) is.
And if you think that my argument is exaggerated, how about Christians believing that all people who don't believe in God go to hell for ever, which is supposed to be worse than suffering or death in a real life.
And all who buried me can try to prove me wrong.
How many intelligent and educated individuals start to follow religions and actually believe without question in imaginary friends if they weren't brainwashed in their childhood? And don't pretend that what religious parents and the clergy are doing is not brainwashing or outright child abuse.
And, defending Carlin, which was the other part of my argument, how can you say that your God is all loving and powerful? Why does it allow children to be born with genetic disorders, which will make them suffer and die at early age? When did these children ever get a chance to prove that they are worthy of living? When can they ever get a chance to go to heaven if they don't have mental capabilities to even learn about your religion and believe in your god?
And what if you are born in a family that is not Christian? Are you going to hell just for that? And what about all the people that lived before Christianity became popular? Are they all in hell just because they never had a chance of believing in your God? - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Indeed, but Dawkins never said that.
- ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@bebopredux
Guess what, there are many other books that claim to be the only truth and are in contrary to yours (different gods and *****), and some are even older.
Christians (or any other people who strongly decided just for one concrete religion for that matter) are actually even bigger atheists (deniers of other gods and religions) than people we tend to call atheists.
Atheists see that evidence for any gods and religions does not exist and that probability of there being a god is too little to follow.
While Christians or Muslims definitely concluded that their version of the supreme being, creation of world and everything else is the only true and real one and refused all other possibilities for ever. - DatoeDakari, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7"God bless Joe Pesci"
- viviwanu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The guy is BRILLIANT!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7OBVIOUSLY JESUS ONLY LOVES LUNATICS
Because you have to actually believe that a mythical anthropomorphic "Bible-God" impregnated a virgin in order to give birth to himself in order to be sacrificed to himself in order to sit beside himself in order to save the world from himself as some kinda weird experiment in redemption.
Are magical invisible green elephants who control the universe from their homes inside doorknobs any less real in the minds of psychopaths in insane asylums?
Seek help people. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5His diet (which is not special what-so-ever) makes him hypocrite? You must be really catching at straws there.
- DanielScrivner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I love George Carlin!
- FlapJaw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's called a joke.
- sparks2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7"@sparks2
Let's say I, out of the blue, believe that you should be killed. Would you respect that?"
Yes, I will think it is stupid but I will respect it. I won't make a silly arrogant statement about it trying to pick up a fight. Plus, because your belief is in direct conflict with my safety, I will report you to the authorities and let them deal with you. Other than that, I'll leave you alone.
"Just like your beliefs, mine are not found on anything else but on what I want to believe so they are equal"
Sure, if you honestly believe that's what you must do in life I might NOT AGREE but I will RESPECT it. - rodrigo74, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I think the truth is, you are afraid of what those scriptures say when you compare them to how you live your life."
That's kinda funny to read because, when you think about it, the way that a contemporary, moderate christian lives today would certainly be considered highly inappropriate and even offensive to most christians in the previous generations. Religious people love the idea that they follow some sort of absolute, immutable truth and set of values but when you take an historical view you'll see that those values are just following the "zeitgeist" as everyone else, people get the current "good" values of the society they are inserted and then pick some specific segments of the bible that corroborate those values and say "see? it's ll there in the bible, I am such a good person".
To be a christian (or any other religious person that follows a Sacred Book) is to be an expert on cherry-picking and relativism... - BlackCow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3He is a lot funnier then Richard Dawkins.
- lazza, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4the title is fine. his description is worded a bit weird but he is saying the video is about carlin saying that religion is the best lie of all time, not that carlin is the best liar.
- sparks2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6I cut my post in two just because I can see this one being dugg down more than the one above so i'll split it and you can digg them up/down differently:
Let's put it this way, I believe in all the same facts and logics you do, that's why they are called facts and logic. There are certain things we simply KNOW in life.. The difference between me and you, as Dawkins put it so nicely, is you went one step further and, just how you don't believe in any religion, you don't believe in mine. Basically you KNOW all those facts and logic and you are fine with that and that's fine with me. On the other hand, I KNOW all those facts and logics too I simply go the extra step and BELIEVE somethng else, I have no way of proving it and there is no proof for it so I believe it and realize I can be wrong.
As plato (i think it was plato) put it, knowledge is simply a justified true belief. Those facts and logics all pass the three tests but religion doesn't. I think it is justified but not proven. I also happen to believe it but I have no idea if it is true or not. Hence why I believe God exists but don't know that there is a god.
Basically I'm going with Dawkins "atheists just go one step further and don't believe in the extra one god" idea and switch it around. I'm the same as you with the same beliefs, I just go one step extra and believe in something you don't.
(and before someone goes and says yeah but people of other religions say the same: I agree they can say the same and many times I agree 100% with them too so I think, IN MY CASE, that is an invalid thing to say, I can go further into that if you want but i have to cut this comment a little shorter than planned :p) - FlapJaw, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7Why should I believe in the Christian god and not Zeus or Thor or Native American rain gods? Christians can't give me a good reason so ***** their religion.. Someone give me a good reason.
- freebug, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3That was so funny! my stomach still hurts :D
I was also brought up as a catholic. It's so easy to identify with all he is saying. And its good to know that it's ok to laugh about Christianity. - stonewaljacksn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1right on Tonage
It's not hard to say stories like that are impossible, clearly they are. Let's start moving somewhere caseyucf, instead of standing in one place being stubborn, and start thinking about WHY those myths exist, or any myth for that matter. How do you know reality is NOT really how it appears to the 5 senses? Wouldn't every science other than quantum physics then become the study of an illusion? - sparks2, on 10/12/2007, -19/+19@ICSU
Do you really believe people are going to take your comments seriously with that attitude?
I view religion in a certain way because I want to, if you want to believe in anything else you are more than welcome to and I respect that. Your childish behavior, however, isn't welcomed. - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2It's just crappy grammar ironically followed by your crappy grammar.
- NightMyst3, on 03/23/2008, -0/+0THAT was a good movie. Never really understood however how if they entered the church all that would happen?
- lopla, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Well Christianity is dead anyways because they found the bones of Jesus and his family. The xtians are trying to cry foul that the names were common but comeon folks and entire burial chamber one coffin stating "Jesus son of Joseph" two Mary's and basically everyone else associated with Jesus, even his son. Yup, the bones of Jesus are found = no resurrection. And just wait for the real bombshells the documentary will drop that people do not know about yet. As soon as this truth comes to light it's all over. Jesus was just a man and xtians will all have to commit mass suicide in a few days..
- tonage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Maybe I have just trained my brain to overlook them due to the large number day after day.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4proof there is no god http://thecreationfallacy.blogspot.com/
- NightMyst3, on 03/23/2008, -0/+0Gotta say that was kind of funny. However, if anyone is looking for a spiritual community/ message boards I would personally recommend http://www.mystic3.com It allows talks of many of our religions today.
George Carlin is the man though, ;) - appleswitch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Dogma
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1And now the question for you
Is not "What Would Jesus Do?"
But where will you be
When the Craig Machine comes partyin through?
And if the Lord will allow
You've got to ask yourself how,
When, who and why and where is your messiah now?
It's ***** Craig. - ToastPop, on 04/17/2009, -3/+2What are you talking about? There are articles about religion, science, creation, etc. that appear on the front page EVERY DAY, and if they are even remotely related to religion, the Christianity bashing begins.
- hotpepper, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3I thought he was going to talk about religion. All he talked about was Christianity. No Buddhism, No Judaism, No Islam, no Zoroastrianism, no Sikhism. Nothing but Christianity.
Buried as inaccurate. - toastman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Of course Dawkins isnt a comedian, hes a scientist. Of course George Carlin is in a completely different category then normal comedians. A philospher of comedy in comparison to the completely observational comedy of today. A true legend that speaks what he thinks and not what will make him famous.
- BigSlacker, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I call it "sad". I miss the old Carlin when he was funny and not hateful and bigoted. Check out like the Carlin at Carnegie video. Absolutely Hysterical.
- JackDanielz, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0People can't you see what Carlin is doing with his comedy. This is just what he wants out of his religion gig - controversy. I am sure half the things he says are meant to laugh upon and not as what you are taking it for. Laugh, it is comedy. These comments became a religion thread instead a comical one.
Just to change the subject a bit. I really digg these comedians like Carlin, Gaffigan, and Murphy. What is going on with YouTube taking them off their site. It is free publicity for them. I wish they came by my side of the world, or I wish they would show up where I go on my next trip to the US. I knew about them on YouTube, and I am a fan of them because of this. Stop this copyright bullS@#$! It's becoming a religion around sites like YouTube. That is where you should spend your energy on - fight the copyright religion defenders. - tonage, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Anti-religion posts had fallen off the last few days. Figured it was about time.
Carlin uses stuff like this to get fans. I mean, if you get up there and mock religion, you don't have to be funny. Every religion-phobe that sees it is going to like it. And do things like post it to Digg. Not because they think it is funny, but because it is yet another way for them to attack people's belief in God. - tonage, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Lots of thing we have today were thought impossible 50 years ago. Do you really think so much of the human race that you believe we have discovered all possible things? Give me a break.
- tonage, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4- Quoting scripture is one of the reasons so many people hate Christians. Stop it.
So Atheists are just fine to post Dawkins preaching, and stuff like that, but a Christian cannot quote the very reason he or she believes? What? I think the truth is, you are afraid of what those scriptures say when you compare them to how you live your life. I know it makes me see things I am doing wrong. - stonewaljacksn, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2If anyone's talking about persecution, it's the atheists here.
"Like OMG Dawkins is gonna like be on TV today like FINALLY we have endured SO MUCH pain and suffering being shunned by the evil Christian majority like OMG in the 1700s some atheist guy was cut in half we are like SOOO persecuted y'know? Like OMG I turned on the TV today and saw some evangelical in Texas talkin about how the world is going to hell, we atheists are SO persecuted by people like that...well, I've never met an evangelical face to face, but they ar eliek SOO persecuting us" Thank God for digg so we can safely gather here free from the evil oppressors! GO DAWKINS WOOO!"
(you hear the violin) - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -26/+21@sparks2
His opinion is based on common sense, facts and logic, and yours? Let me guess, brainwashed in the childhood. - stonewaljacksn, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6#1. I do think George Carlin is a hilarious comedian, but there are a couple things that shoudl be said about this before atheists start carrying George Carlin around on their shoulders.
#2. If you look at religion comparatively, Jesus is merely one of the more recent in a long line of pagan "Sun Gods". The sun has been seen by religious groups as the physical manifestation of "God" for thousands of years, go look it up if you don't believe me. Anyway, I found it kinda funny when Carlin mentioned seeing the sun as the real god.
#3. AND MOST IMPORTANT: Carlin kept saying "religion this" n "religion that" when he actually shouldve been saying Christianity this and Christianity that, thus feeding my point that most atheists are more anti-christian than anti-religion. Pretty much everything he said about "religion" was based on the "Christian" point of view of God. Go ahead and talk trash abotu Christianity if you want, but dont go assuming that Christianity is the prototype for all the religions of the world. - raz98, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1was that a comedy show ? Or an angry old man preaching his "religion" ?
- evan11, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0ROFL. Yeah, Carlin isn't a hypocrite, and he's not a zealot about anything except the rights of the poor oppressed people that have to deal with Christians. Take a look at his concert rider and see what a finicky person he really is. Looking at his concert rider with all the "do's" and "don'ts" and unacceptable things that he cannot deal with makes him look just a little on the hypocritical side. Here's the link: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/georgecarlin/georgecarlin1.html
But hey, he's a comic and it doesn't matter right? - raishi, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2This could get ammusing...
How can one be sure that the entire Bible isn't a fictional story based on real events?
Carlin makes alot of good points about nearly everything in life...and the funny part from what I have found is how true it is... -
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