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- MrJohnSmith, on 10/13/2009, -12/+674CNN may have a timetable to follow and a schedule to keep, but by not following up on controversial statements or incorrect numbers, they are not doing an essential part of their job, which includes pushing their interviewee to give the proper answers.
That being said, the people at CNN absolutely deserve any bashing they get. It has become a shallow news network that has lost its substance (if it ever had any), focusing on what's popular or "hip" at any given moment rather than providing its viewers with relevant information and to-the-point questions.
I know CNN, like all other TV-channels and news networks, have viewer ratings to be concerned about; but come on. It should be perfectly possible to keep your audience while NOT spewing out dumbed-down crap 24/7. I'm just not interested in what normal people write on Twitter. We can read comments in articles, message boards or we can even search Twitter ourselves.
Actually, I would go as far as to say that CNN is as much of a joke than Fox is. A joke of a different character, for sure, but still a joke.
Just sayin' - RogueGenius, on 10/13/2009, -36/+563I agree with the above, however I have to draw the line at comparing them to Fox. CNN's flaws are largely of neglect and incompetence. Fox's flaws are by design.
- diggit83, on 10/13/2009, -4/+295Like when tucker carlson tried to fire back at john on crossfire with "Why arent you asking the tough questions"....you cant hold COMEDY routines to the same journalistic standard as ACTUAL JOURNALISM.
Why the ***** cant people see the difference anymore? Is it because these comedy shows are a more respected source for factual reporting than the actual media?
Sad sad times - youareretarded, on 10/13/2009, -5/+192Do you think this is a ***** game? This isn't about your side versus my side this is about news media doing it's job because when they don't we all suffer.
idiot! - SilentSpyder, on 10/13/2009, -3/+164their
- Dragonis, on 10/13/2009, -5/+165http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-wi ...
Canadian Link - davidg11, on 10/13/2009, -4/+139I'd comment on this story...but it looks like we have to leave it there.
- amasiancrasian, on 10/13/2009, -2/+135Love the "just sayin" reference! For those who don't get the "just sayin" punchline, CNN was mocked by Jon Stewart in their desperate attempt to be popular or "hip." They ran a segment where the "reporter" would end each segment by saying, "Just sayin."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/19/jon-stewa ... - subliminali, on 10/13/2009, -1/+130It's true, most boxes do not have dicks in them. I checked.
- drujenn, on 10/13/2009, -4/+116Why did CNN fact-check a SNL skit? Slow news night?
"While you were doing your research did you also find that sharks live in water and don't deliver candy grams...and that the majority of boxes do not have d*cks in them?"
Good for Stewart. - Aryman104, on 10/13/2009, -1/+105sniedy? nuff? are you high?
and they're a comedy show. what the ***** do you want them to do? solve world hunger? - DarkprinceArmon, on 10/13/2009, -2/+87The problem with media like CNN is short term memory loss. Its better for them to draw two sides of an equation and then ask the opinion of the viewers, than to actually report the news facts as is, and remember what they reported the night before. Instead we get two half baked opinions about a subject, and then we get a question about our feeling on the said subject. The news then reads a small sample of what people say, making it hard to gauge the true feelings of the majority. Only to lastly move on to the next subject, totally killing of the last topic thought. CNN has become my second source of news because of this.
- Mullinator, on 10/13/2009, -4/+80your comment destroys nothing... its just a sniedy remark to make conservative douches feel smart instead of ACTUALLY doing something. nuff said.
- Spawn2105, on 10/13/2009, -3/+75leave it to Jon Stewart to nail the networks on their idiot news programming.
keep it up Jon! - adeelarshad82, on 10/13/2009, -3/+72and we'll leave it at that for now
- Mankind121, on 10/13/2009, -49/+118CNN is a joke, don't pretend they're any better then FOX or MSNBC
- paidhima, on 10/13/2009, -1/+69It's not just CNN. All too often in the media interviews are cut short with the last word being some asinine stat or assertion that nobody ever calls the person on. I don't care who does it or to whom. I understand that shows are heavily scripted and scheduled and mostly live on the 24 hour networks, but that doesn't excuse sloppy journalism. This isn't Channel 14 News out of *****, Idaho cutting off two neighbors in a debate on whose dog shat on whose lawn, ok? These aren't amateurs doing video casts to put up on Youtube. These are professionals on ***** CNN. Do they not *know* their interviewees are aware of show schedules and pacing? Do they think it's an accident that the most retarded statements get thrown out when the interviewee knows he's getting the last word? What's wrong with these people?
How is it that Jon Stewart can conduct a 20 minute interview with Betsy McCaughey or Jim Cramer, realize there's no way they can fit the entire thing in and decide, rather than "just leave it there", that the interview is important enough to see through to its logical conclusion? Then, in post, edit it down and tell your viewing audience to check out the entire interview online. How hard would it be to not insist on live interviews 100% of the time and do it Stewart style? Play a version edited for time (but not context, damn you), then provide a link to the full interview online. I thought CNN was all about the god damn Internet.
Why is it that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert manage to get more useful information out of an interviewee than any of the major news networks? Jon Stewart brings you on and, in his self-effacing and entertaining style, subtly (and sometimes not so subtly) peppers his guests with questions and usually calls them on their *****. He's not perfect, but I get more from his interviews than I do anywhere else. Then there's Colbert, who manages to let his ***** conservative guests - not that all conservatives are *****, just the majority of the ones he brings on - hang themselves with their own pathology while providing his more liberal or "reasonable" guests an environment of playful opposition to defend their ideas. Sure, Colbert's interviews are sadly quite short, but I again get more out of them than I do the major networks.
I'm convinced: Cable news jumped the shark long, long ago and we're left with nothing but blowhards more interested in their holograms and crawls and giving each other handjobs under the table and blowjobs to their ideologically-aligned guests in full view of a public who they hope is blissfully unaware that the information they get is soaked in an ideologue's ball-sweat and smells faintly of dick-breath. Half the time it's so...slutty...they should only be allowed to air after 1AM on weeknights.
But, you know, I guess we'll just have to leave it there.
***** you, cable news. - randmcnally, on 10/13/2009, -0/+64in Canada Fox News wasn't available a couple of years ago and back then I used to watch CNN and think:
wow these guys are total fear mongering *****. this news is sensational and I really question their objectivity. is this where most Americans get their news?
...and now we have Fox News. if CNN is you 'leftist media' then you guys are in a world of trouble down there. - flibbittygiblet, on 10/13/2009, -2/+66What are you talking about? Did you follow the link and watch the clip? It was filled with republicans making insane claims and CNN not doing anything to question the claims or verify their truth. Your commit, clever though you think it may be, has nothing to do with the current topic.
- Supertrout, on 10/13/2009, -1/+63Here is the episode of Jon Stewart on Crossfire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
"In January 2005 CNN announced that it would not be renewing Carlson's contract. In a news release containing the announcement, CNN CEO Jonathan Klein indicated that he wanted to change the tone of shows on the network, canceling Crossfire partly as a result of Jon Stewart's appearance and criticism." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_%28TV_serie ... - overridemymind, on 10/13/2009, -4/+66Hey, akchrs -- how about you leave the politics to the adults?
youareretarded is right -- this isn't a game. If "your side" makes a mistake -- point it out, and call them idiots for making that mistake! Blindly following everything your party does, and mindlessly agreeing with everything your party says and/or does gets you nowhere, and in fact, damages the country.
In summation, I repeat -- leave the politics to the grown-ups. - NorthMass, on 10/13/2009, -5/+66Jon Stewart once again shows why he is America's best TV journalist, even though he isn't really a journalist.
- davidg11, on 10/13/2009, -2/+62Are reporters simply no longer intelligent?
Don't they have to work their way up through the ranks?
Or do they just have to look "ok" and speak in coherent sentences?
Sad...where are the walter cronkites of the past...dead? - Tddupre, on 10/13/2009, -4/+58NPR
- jamspt, on 10/13/2009, -4/+58The difference between Blue and Red seems to be that Blues revel in arguing and trying to find a Utopian solution (and since one will never exist, they never unify to pass anything) while Reds march in lock step to do what God is telling them to do (whether or not it's really God or Rove/Limbaugh is another question for another day).
Don't ever be surprised to see arguments among liberals - the best of us enjoy the give and take of idea exchanges. - RodgerE1, on 10/13/2009, -0/+52Why are the news channels all about SNL skits? SNL has been making fun of presidents for 35 years.
- overridemymind, on 10/13/2009, -2/+52Yes, it would be -- which is why I voted for Obama. While I agreed with McCain's ideas on some issues, I disagreed with his stance on Iraq and Afghanistan, I disagreed with his policies on healthcare, abortion, I GREATLY disagreed with his choice of running mate (which was the final straw for me) etc. I agreed more closely with Obama's campaign promises, so that's why I voted for him. When he doesn't fulfill those promises, I hold him to the fire for it, and will take the sum of his actions into account during the 2012 elections.
THAT's what you're SUPPOSED to do. - jhbarr, on 10/13/2009, -2/+49CNN is more worried about the gamesmanship then the actual policies and news. Just look at their response to Grayson on healthcare. Plenty of comments on how mean he was, no comment on whether he was right or not.
- iceph03nix, on 10/13/2009, -1/+45I like bbc news, and pbs.
- icebane, on 10/13/2009, -5/+48I agree completely. I get irritated when someone who is pro FOX tries to say... "FOX is just the response to CNN, they're both the same both with different bias."
Or.. to get off topic but a reasonable analogy, creationism.
"Why are you afraid of hearing the other side?"
(implying the other side, creationism, is an equal theory as evolution).
"Children should be taught evolution and creationism in schools. It is only fair."
(implying the other side, creationism, is an equal theory as evolution) - uptwolait, on 10/13/2009, -0/+42You nailed one of the reasons why I get sick of the way most news media cover stories these days....EMOTIONS. Geez, they barely give you any facts about a story before shoving a mic in the teary-eyed face of some devastated person. "How did losing your entire family to this avoidable tragedy make you FEEL?"
Report the facts. I'll decide how I feel about them. - thespiff, on 10/13/2009, -0/+39No, actually it's an attempt to fix the media by shaming them. It worked on Crossfire. It almost worked on Jim Cramer.
If you think the media is working great and doesn't need called out for its flaws, I feel sorry for you because you are complicit in one of the greatest problems in our country today.
If you simply hate Jon Stewart and can't tolerate him coming across as intelligent and superior to anyone, then you're just a partisan hack, and again I feel sorry for you because you are complicit in one of the greatest problems in our country today. - kingnova, on 10/13/2009, -0/+38I thought this was a joke/Onion story when I first heard about it. Here's hoping SNL skewers CNN with a skit covering this.
Fact checking an SNL skit? Were they begging for ridicule? - twiztidsinz, on 10/13/2009, -4/+42What's that old cold war saying?
Better dead than red? - UhNathUhMuh, on 10/13/2009, -3/+41Well, who is Jon's buddy? You guessed it! Colbert. You know what I love about watching the Daily Show and Colbert Report? They rarely overlap.
Though I do think Obama getting the Peace Prize is something that should have been on both shows, I do not complain. - Kaiosama, on 10/13/2009, -6/+44Fact checking SNL keeps you safe from Republican criticism...
...of which CNN is deathly afraid of. - RogueGenius, on 10/13/2009, -1/+39Sadly... We ARE in a lot of trouble down here.
- captininsanity, on 10/13/2009, -1/+39Like NPR and public broadcasting? People don't watch it because they think its either too liberal or too boring. Personally I think its quality news...
- youareretarded, on 10/13/2009, -3/+40Every "news" network does it, CNN just got picked on this time but I've seen them all do it.
- DooM, on 10/13/2009, -0/+37The main problem is that if Side A presents an idea and Side B refutes it with ***** the modern media is afraid to say "Side B is *****" because people will start screaming "THAT'S NOT FAIR! THAT'S NOT BALANCED! BIAS!!!!" The media need to grow their balls and say "***** you - some things are true - some things are false - it's not a matter of ***** opinion" and nail the ***** no matter which side of the aisle they may fall.
- QQMore, on 10/13/2009, -0/+36But what did you do with the ones that did?
- andytronic, on 10/13/2009, -10/+45"Actually, I would go as far as to say that CNN is as much of a joke than Fox is. A joke of a different character, for sure, but still a joke."
I agree with your post except for the above line. It's popular right now for a lot of people to say the CNN is "just as bad as Fox news," but that's really not the case.
I'm not defending CNN as such, just pointing out the fact that CNN doesn't knowingly mislead their viewers as FOX does. They may, as the Daily Show clip suggests, not ask the right questions when they have the chance, or not do their research as a news organization should (among its other flaws). But there's a big difference in a news organization like CNN that is overly ratings-conscious, and desperate to appear "moderate" (to the detriment of accuracy and honesty) and a news organization like Fox that knowingly omits or distorts facts.
CNN clearly has some huge credibility issues, but a lack of professional journalism and rigorous fact-checking (not to mention over-adherence to their commercial-break time) are not in the same league as flat-out lying. - lovek, on 10/13/2009, -0/+35Ok, so the cable news networks are a joke. The printed word is dead. Where do you guys go to get the "real" news?
No, seriously. I really want to know. - Billistic, on 10/13/2009, -0/+33It's time to turn off 24 hour "news" networks.
- QQMore, on 10/13/2009, -2/+34"Quit calling me on the ***** I spew. Thanks."
FTFakchrs - TobiasParker, on 10/13/2009, -1/+33Then it shouldn't be called 'News'.
- Unexploded, on 10/13/2009, -1/+33The news stopped being about reporting a long time ago. Now it's all about driving the number to sell ad revenue. So instead of actual news, you tend to see a lot of sensationalized BS that puts eyes on screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjZxiebKRTE - diggduggDOOM, on 10/13/2009, -2/+34NPR and BBC
- absurdist, on 10/13/2009, -2/+33Reading your comment history and responding != stalking. But thanks for shedding light on yet another facet of your paranoia.
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