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- CaptMonkey, on 10/11/2007, -5/+34Do you click your own links? The Opie and Anthony link had 855 vs the satan microwave baby at 3. Wow, you sure showed... yourself.
- CaptMonkey, on 10/11/2007, -6/+31Are we still counting the "Opie and Anthony don't have any fans." joke as funny? Just checking.
I think it's pretty clear from all the press the issue has gotten, that they have plenty fans, let's move on to something new that we can repeat over and over. - superguysteve, on 10/11/2007, -1/+21we are putting you in the "doesn't get it" group.
- Emaze, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18"About.com still exisths? Seriouthly. Talk about unhip web des-thign, guiz. Minimalithm is totally in now."
I've heard some bad speech impediments before, but someone that TYPES with a lisp? - harborwolf, on 10/11/2007, -6/+21It's very refreshing to see the situation articulated so perfectly by an online writer. very very good piece.
- rholloway, on 10/11/2007, -4/+18I think the biggest point that everyone misses is that XM advertised a unique product and is now no longer delivering it. Theoretically, I can go to Sirius if XM doesn't make me happy.
When the merger goes through, where you gonna go if the monopoly decides to go back on their promise? This example has shown regulators how the company can behave without competition in the marketplace--it's this "***** you" to their customers that will blindside the merger, not Opie and Anthony doing what they were paid to do.
A huge, massive, collossal management blunder. A self-inflicted wound. - CTDennis85, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15Gotta love this..... the media is turning around and figuring this one out.... it's UNCENSORED...
the only reason people heard it that didn't want to is cause some hole recorded it on PURPOSE to spread copyrighted private broadcast content outside of the place it was meant to be.... - slapded, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13i could care less anymore. xm pissed me off, so i canceled. i hate companies that lie, or at least get caught lying.
- bigpappasmurf, on 10/11/2007, -9/+21XM does owe us an apology, What they did was uncalled for, and I hope the backlash from the fans of the show let them know how dedicated the fans and pests are. I really think this is going to end in lawsuits about the suspending and not canceling people's accounts. XM really dropped the ball here.
- Muyoso, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16Would you like to see how many stations Howie has a 0.0 in?
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/page?page=states
Take your pick, there are around 10,000 0.0s that Howie has - chesney09, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11The WHOLE point is the fact that people PAY to listen to XM.. Whatever channel is may be.. They have been sold on the premise that the content is commercial free(In most cases), uncensored, and can be offensive on some channels. Those channels are even labeled as XL for a reason. You can have those channels blocked by XM for parents if they choose.
I don;t even listen to O&A.. Don't care too.. But how can they suspend them.. yet the Comedy stations get down right raunchy (if not worse) but nothing there? Does their suspension mean they will start controlling the other XL channels and toning down the content? That's MY concern and reasons for canceling my subs. It is NO different than cable.. You pay for it, you watch what is appropriate for you and your family.. Tune elsewhere when needed.
I PAY for XM to have that option.. No sense in paying for it if they aren't selling it anymore. - IWanGoHome, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14I think by flexing their "self-censoring" muscles to the government, XM has hurt themselves badly with the very action they might have used to try to curry favor with government agencies. It will likely ruin this merger for them, and it should. The merger was supposed to be beneficial to the subscriber - that was what they said, anyway. This certainly didn't serve the subscriber, so who was this action meant to serve?
As rhollaway pointed out, there is no other service to go to once the two merge. That's why there are laws in place preventing monopolies. Should anti-trust laws be changed so that a monopoly can control, this medium entirely? Isn't that exactly what those laws are designed to prevent?
So, who does this merger benefit? It's not the consumer. it's not society...who?
XM owes every subsciber an apology. - grail1973, on 10/11/2007, -6/+16XM needs to apologize now and reinstate O&A immediately without any censure after the fact. While they are at it give Imus a show.
- BoneheadFarker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9@jerful
Uh..dude...hate to break it to you, but that's *exactly* what the freedom of speech is meant to protect. You just can't act on certain things you talk about. Yes, yes...yelling fire in a crowded theater and all...but anyone can say they are against anything they want. Anyone can say that they'd like to do anything they want. You are free to say anything you want.
For now, that is... - cokelogic, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11My feeling were very badly injured.
- Muyoso, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8What other portable medium is there where you can here live uncensored shows? I cannot think of any without investing in a fair bit of hardware. This is nothing like the Ipod. This is more like oil. Sure there is a competitor to Exxon, but the stuff is pretty much the same, if they all merged to one, there would be no alternative for gas. Sure, you COULD go with kerosene, like terrestrial radio, or ethanol, like the Ipod, but you won't get the same performance, cannot use the same car, do not have the same access to the fuel, like the content. That seems to me to be a better analogy.
- dorianh49, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7the weird thing is, it appears to be a selective lisp. The "s"'s in 'still', 'seriouthly' and 'is' are intact.
- tcupp, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10If they do apologize and O&A are put back on; it is going to be extremely awkward. I have listened to to these guys since they were on Premium XM (I paid and extra couple of bucks a month just for their channel) and I know that they are not going to just accept an apology and go back on air with XM, they are not your usual radio sellouts (ManCow).
I am sad to say it, but I think that the show is over on XM because they know that they can not put these guys back on without days upon days of the company being slammed as well as endless ridicule of upper management. On the same note, according to rumored cancellation numbers they are screwed if they dont put them back on...and I am sure upper management is recieving plenty of ridicule from the pests through email as well. - superguysteve, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9What's an apology gonna do?
XM "Hey everyone, we're sorry we goofed..."
Everyone "Its OK, we'll keep our subscriptions" - Cockdiesel, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6When your boss hires you to say those things it's a different story.
I sucked at little league baseball as a kid. I had an awful mouth. They made me catcher so I could just piss off hitters. When I went over the line, the umpire would force me to only use the "heyyyy batta batta" stuff. When I got in trouble, my coach didn't get mad... he laughed at it and said "ok ok just do what he wants..but that was pretty funny". He didn't get mad at me for getting in trouble. That was MY JOB.
You can not get mad at someone for just doing their job. I could see agreeing with them if they said, were going to suspend them for the sake of calming down the situation but we still stand by our talent as they broke no laws and this is what the show is. If they just wanted to calm things down thats fine but don't through them under the bus. - Ultimus000, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11I can't wait until this blows up their merger. They literally could not have picked a worse target.
- JD52, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8A lot of people get it. Just not the heads of these multi-billion dollar corporations. In fact they will never get it. In most cases they are so far removed from the public they could really give a *****.
- kaiser44, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10***** apologies, put those ignorant ***** back on the air so the digg community can get back to what they care about. R.Paul
- ibeetle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6Out of curiosity. Those of you that canceled your subscription. Are you planing on renewing in 3 weeks when O&A are back on the air? Or is the XM boycott permanent and you are switching to Sirus?
Also, what about the/an early termination charge? When I first signed up for XM (over 4 years ago) one had to sign up for a year. Any termination in service during that 12 month period would result in a early termination fee. Does XM still charge that? - Muyoso, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5It wasn't about the extra bucks, I am sure they make a majority of their money from XM, not CBS. Its the fact that they can reach a HELL of a lot more people through terrestrial radio than with XM. Also, its for situations like these, where if they F up they have one of the two services to fall back on. Its just a smart decision all around.
If XM really suspended them for pissing off management, WTF does XM expect when they get back on air? They are going to rip them to *****. - danc4498, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Makes some good points. It's crazy that a lot of people subscribe (as in pay XM real money) for the sole purpose of hearing Opie and Anthony, and yet XM is allowed to just suspend them, like it's Opie and Anthony being hurt and not it's customers?
- chesney09, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Not going back.. May try Sirius on one of the cars just for the hell of it.
No ETFs either, but I was a Subscriber of 5 radios since early 2003. - p51d007, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Opie and Anthony who?
Never heard of them until this spilled over onto the news shows.
You have the RIGHT to "freedom of speech", but that doesn't guarantee you
have the right to be HEARD. If they were standing on a street corner
spouting this, unless a riot happened, no problem. Even though the satellite
radio station isn't like "over the air" radio, there is still some regulation.
Personally, I could care less what they say. Also, it is a SUBSCRIPTION
service. It isn't like little 8 year old Johnny is going to flip on the radio and
hear this. I have XM, but I don't subscribe to their channel. I bought XM
because I wanted MUSIC without commercials.
I think the only reason this got blown up is because somebody got their panties
in a wad. It doesn't matter which side of the political fence you sit on, there are
extremist on BOTH sides. If people would just STFU and IGNORE what they
don't like to hear, I think the world would be a lot better. I make the decision
as to what I listen to. If I don't like it, I switch channels. THAT is the way the
free market is SUPPOSE to work. We don't need a "fairness" doctrine. If
a show is successful, it will succeed. If not, it will go off the air. - czimmerman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I'll start off by saying I'm a Sirius supporter for life. I started out with Sirius, and I will always stick with Sirius. However, by saying that, I hope my thoughts don't come across as I want XM dead and gone. And I'm not an Opie & Anthony fan by any means: While Howard makes jokes at the expense of woman and others, O&A just seem MEAN about it.
Anyway, the stunt that XM pulled 100% will affect what will happen with satellite radio, merger or not. While Sirius has the "brand new recognition" right now, XM is the bigger company. The gimmick, the selling point of satellite radio has always been UNCENSORED CONTENT. While some people will argue that Homeless Charlie's conversation was "tasteless," you could mention the same with Howard and/or Bubba, who both had guys licking each others balls in the last two weeks.
With XM pulling O&A for 30 days, its only going to make satellite look weak. It was a dumb move, and for the one industry that should be sticking the middle finger to censorship groups and "Oh my God! What if my kid who goes to public school who has heard ***** on the playground hears this in his daddy's car on the way to school?" parental groups, they dropped the ball.
Its going to be interesting to see the long term effects on this. I'm actually debating on getting an XM subscription just to hear their comeback show... - L0t3k, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7
Actually there were both CNN and Fox stories on this. In fact, both have addressed it numerous times since it happened, and it's not going to stop until some time after they're either formally fired or put back on the air... so you had better get used to it.
Oh, and we have no inherent burden of proof on Digg whenever some douche comes out the woodwork and demands it. We simply don't answer to *****-wits like you. This is from people who care, to people who care. You're welcome to ***** ignore it.
Go get owned elsewhere, troll. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7This is coming from someone with spelling of a 5th grader. Maybe he/she should be on that show "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader".
- akatherder, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Their show was UNCENSORED per XM's claim. Everything they said was aired. They are, however, subject to censure after the fact.
What does that mean?
The argument is not about free speech. The government didn't do anything (that we know of).
It's not about whether XM has the right to suspend O&A. By all accounts, XM did nothing illegal (just stupid).
The argument is whether O&A overstepped the boundaries to the point where XM feared governmental retribution or XM thought they would lose listeners.
Either someone threatened XM, they completely miscalculated the amount of business they would lose by keeping O&A vs firing/suspending them, or they making a moral statement (which is stupid on "uncensored" radio). - Jade10145, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@iwangohome
dug you up but there is one thing I disagree with you on.
I don't believe the FCC gives a damn about serving the public and society. I know that was and still is its stated purpose, but I believe at this point it only serves as an enforcer for the moral majority sided Bush Administration (see Super Bowl and other suspensions/fines. In theory, XM's move to suspend O and A was because they want to look like they hold the same morals as the FCC/Bush Administration.
BTW I absolutely love your handle. - cockmaster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3if they suck so hard, WHY ON GOD GREEN EARTH did CBS radio literally make fools of themselves to get them on doing mornings. i mean they could have hired ANYBODY else for that job and saved themselves a ton of hassle.
the fact is they're good at what they do and they're only competition is THEY still care unlke howard who is only working 4 days a week on top of his 4 months of vacation a year. sorry, but they're just better. - Muyoso, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I agree with most of what you said. However, dont be so sure that it doesnt affect you. When a company advertises one of their channels as uncensored and filthy, and then gets all pissy when the people on the channel are uncensored and filthy, then what stops that company from getting pissy at other channels. Maybe one day you will be listening to an XL music channel and you will hear beeep, instead of a swear word. I would be pissed having paid for it.
- XxXoldsaltXxX, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5I'm going to ***** techpow right in the throat.
Oh god now digg is going to take me off the air :( - culbeda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Please don't remind me of the ball-licking... That was a new low.
As for Bubba, he's far worse than O&A. I seriously wish someone at Sirius would have the good sense to censor that show for not being entertaining. Why Howard ever put that numskull on the air is beyond me. Between genitalia shocking, the fire ants on the scrotum and the throwing of feces in a fan and blowing it on people, I want NOTHING to do with that idiot! And I only know about all this crap from hearing their damn promos! God knows what ELSE they do. - Stryker412, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I canceled my five radios and won't be going back either. I might try it again after the merger if it goes through.
- FearlessFreep, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4No, but if you have clients he may need to say something to them. Or maybe not. Depends on the reason for the firing
Now, there is a big difference between
"I'm sorry for you but we had to let him go"
and
"I'm sorry that we let him go" - BoneheadFarker, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2What right do you have to force your morals onto me? If I'm not hurting you, and I'm not forcing you to do anything or listen to anything you don't want to, who are you to tell me what I can and cannot do? ***** your ethics, ***** your morals, because they do not affect me...
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -5/+7So, if you say something your boss doesn't like, and he has the legal right to send you home, and he does, he owes you an apology?
I don't think so. - rholloway, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@cerial
DirecTV and any cable TV operator are not competitors in the entire market because cable isn't available to every home in the US. Rural areas only have satellite for a choice.
Now, if you want to argue that local gov'ts and cable companies collude, then feel free, but again, you don't have an argument. - PopcornDave, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4And yet you come here.
- rholloway, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3cerial...
iPod and HDRadio aren't competition. Until those devices can deliver live, uncensored, and unregulated content from a source outside of your own hard drive or outside of content you already own, they have no competition. Satellite radio is, for now, a truly unique medium. Perhaps by enforcing or wishing FCC regulation upon themselves they are trying to establish free radio as a competitor--but from a business standpoint, that's when satellite radio ceases to be a unique product worth the investment.
Now, a true competitor will come when I can plug a Verizon wireless modem in the USB port of my iPod and stream internet radio without interruption across the North American continent. Until then, it's all apple and oranges. - jlink7, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2XM has not had a contract since I've had one, and that was early 2004.
As far as resubscribing, I don't know. I'm not going to resubscribe for awhile after the suspension lapses just to make sure that the boys aren't being artificially gagged. If they don't come back at all, I plan on cancelling the rest of my families radios (those that don't listen to O&A) and replacing them with Sirius.
Until then there is always PalTalk, where I can hear both the O&A FM show and R&F XM and FreeFM shows. - Abudiwa, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3i deserve an apology after reading that.
- tendonut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You don't have to "subscribe" to their channel. It's just part of the regular lineup and has been that way 6 months or so after they came to XM.
- troth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1wait.. Howard AND Bubba are having dudes lick each others balls, huh? wow, definitely glad to be a 'mean o&a fan' than a gay Howie fan. i give the new gay act they are doing a 0.0 Oh and only new shows for 4 days a week and 4 months vacation, good deal
- loopis, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Change the channel to a different station.
- duzytata, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I like XM. I bought a cheap radio for my home in September and used a 1 month subscription card that came with it. After my first month, I called to cancel because I didn't use it that much and they offered me 3 more months of service at no extra cost. After those three months I called to cancel, but they offered another three months of service at no charge. After calling again, I'm covered up to August and I've never paid for a single month of service. I'm not complaining!
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