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- zoombusa, on 10/12/2007, -4/+77I just love their views on issues. They just shine the right light on things. Screw Cruise and his Xenu ways.
- treed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+68There was only one Hippocrates, and, well, I'm not sure what an ancient Greek doctor has to do with South Park. Did I miss an episode?
- daedal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+66Tom Cruise is heavily overrated. Period.
- jessejoedotcom, on 10/12/2007, -3/+54@CornStarch
That's the point. They aren't trying to change the world. It's just a funny show. You should be allowed to make fun of both sides. - tidu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32No, he's referring to those very large crates that can contain hippoes.
- Lord_oftheTrons, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31@ CornStarch
Hippocrates was the "Father of Medicine", and I doubt that is the word you were looking for.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates - alanspach, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31Who's Tom Cruise?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+33Matt and Trey should move to a different TV channel that's not scared of Cruise.
Comedy Central is run by a bunch of pussies. - jla1987, on 10/12/2007, -3/+30I absolutely agree. His acting style now is so hyper, borderline psychotic.
- BryceHutch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27@CornStarch
I thought it was quite clear that their Christopher Reeves episode was a form of hyperbole. It was a way of making fun of those against stem cell research. I don't think it was in any way saying it was wrong. I see no inconsistencies. - emiles, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Here, I'll show you how replying works.
- clabbergrrl, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24It's too bad you didn't understand the point they were trying to make about stem cell research, but that's not their problem. They shouldn't have to dumb everything down until the lowest common denomiator can understand it. That just punishes the people who *can* understand subtlety and irony.
The point they were making is that stem cell research is good and there's no earthly reason to deny its fruits to someone like Christopher Reeve, and that the people who oppose it are idiots. I'm sorry you didn't get it, but again, that's not their problem (or mine). - ArthurSucks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21I thought censoring Muhamad was a joke!
- seneca, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22You should give them at least a little credit. They have allowed swearing on South Park and show "uncensored" stuff late at night. They have to play politics too just like everybody else, otherwise they'll stand out too much and potentially lose ad money.
- tcybulski, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17uhhh, spellchecker doesn't need work. Hippocrates is a fairly famous greek, he of "Hippocratic oath" fame. thus, it is a correct spelling. i believe that the word you were searching for was "hypocrite," which indeed is also a word. not incorrect spelling, just (completely) incorrect context.
- Novagenesis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18I think revealing the sick "secret of Scientology" on public tv was a service.
You realize people would pay $10,000+ to become "operating thetans" only to hit "OT3" and suddenly find out it's all total *****?
Of course, by then, with all the LR freudian brainwashing, the OT3s usually believe it...
*GASP* that's it! it -is- the truth, but we have to get raped of common sense and logic to actually believe it!
All hail Hubbard - Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17@ Corn -
They've managed to take a show that (I was always a fan, but still...) was about being offensive for no reason, and have turned it into one that's offensive for very good reason: to parody things that are already ridiculous to the point that the underlying ***** is revealed.
Media (especially entertainment media) can portray almost anything in a positive or negative light by spinning it properly. The amazing thing about Trey and Matt is that they do so by turning your own actions and statements against you. By taking what people think are solid talking points to their logical (if slightly melodramatic) conclusions, they tear off the layers of assumption and whitewash that obfuscates most political/religious/ethical arguments.
...and perhaps you're mistaking 'hypocrisy' for their wonderful ability to poke fun at their own show. People who think the messages are 'too strong' are the same folks who hated the movie for being a musical - they see a cartoon show, not the vision behind it. - justinjacobs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Check your closet, you might find him in there.
- kelyn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Amusing that of all the episodes they'd choose to stop airing is the one they end up getting an Emmy nomination for:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13737411/ - bozzel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Comedy Central is run by businessmen whose sole purpose is to make money. The are succeeding.
- emiles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Dammit I hate news puns.
- tommythetomcat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12They aren't scared of Tom. MI:3 was coming out from their sister company paramount. Bashing Tom right before a movie release is bad business and could cost them money. No matter how much i love CC i still realize they are a business and need to act accordingly.
- DoctaStooge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I watched that "Cartoon Wars" episode, and I don't think Muhammad being shown would've been that bad. I don't like how the station can censor certain things and let others go. If your going to censor anything possibly hurtful to someone, then do it across the board instead of being a hypocrite.
- FlaG8r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13The total count of banned episodes now stands at zero.
- endtime, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13"(Depictions of Muhammad are strictly prohibited in Islam.)"
This is not true. It is discouraged in Sunni Islam and perfectly acceptable in Shiite Islam. - pseudojd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I'm offended because they showed a dolphin.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12thats retarded. should i make them censor kenny because portraying kids in orange coats offends me?
anyone know comedy centrals address? - taisuru, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10The strange thing is that Mohammed was part of the super best friends (episode 504) and never got any attention. Maybe it was because he could summon fire, who knows.
- Skab, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11So whats the total of banned sp episodes at now 3? 4?
they need to have an updated disclaimer, something about having a sense of humor, to be able to watch it. - pooninja, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8in the episode "Super Best Friends" from season 5, Muhammad is a character. It was aired and everything. I guess nobody cared back then. "Muhammad, the muslim prophet, with the power of flame"(S5E4)
- cameron074, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8you're incorrect. The new episodes are some of the best yet. Did you watch the audio-chopped chefs last episode? If you didn't find it funny, then there's something wrong with you.
- Genthree, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Damn, forgot to refresh and there were already a million comments about greek doctors.
- boneill428, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8At least they were able to air the episode in the first place. CC has been good enough to at least show every episode once before deciding if its too offensive to be on again in repeats. But I was surprised about them censoring Muhammad.
- kirkness, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I wish Tom Cruise would stop being a weirdo in public so I can sort-of-not-really like his movies again.
- HP844182, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Let's not offend anyone, anything but that.
If you're offended, you deserved it. Apparently it takes someone else to show you how silly you are. - mikedpirone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6My feeling on censorship is if you don't like it, turn it off!
- TexasCanuck, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8They should move to HBO and ditch the censoring altogether...
- ratchet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I think that the ban on South Park showing Muhammad is a bunch of crap. What makes it ok to show and poke fun at Jesus if you can't do it to other religious icons (saviors, prophets, whatever). People are too damn sensitive and need to get over petty stuff. As for that Scientology idiot on MI:3, he bases his religion (as do many others) on a religion developed as a fictional book, which is just sad. If you don't like your kind or religion having fun poked at it for the sake of comedy then don't watch South Park.
It is sad to me that one person has so much influence over a holding company (Paramount, CC, etc) that they can get an animated comedy show pulled because it is against his beliefs. If he had no influence in it and it was Paramount worried about bad publicity, then get a different actor, one that won't cause you these issues. I won't ever see MI:3 for this reason alone....well that and MI:2 sucked.
I guess I should start my protest so that I can get his(Cruise's) pulled from the theaters because Scientology offends me.
FREEDOM - Talk about and show whatever you want, as long is it is ok with everyone else. - shredomatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They didn't do it specifically to piss him off, it just so happened he is a scientologist.
- FishPoisonCon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What would you do?
i dunno... something about a "comedy" channel getting 139+ people killed seems kinda... funny. or at least, ironic - Novagenesis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Umm...
controversy makes for MORE viewers.
If I were advertising around south park, I'd cheer to find out they pulled something like that. - TheWorkz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I also submitted this yesterday.. A good video on MSN Video about the scientology war.. "Experts" claim SP won the battle.
http://digg.com/videos_people/South_Park_vs._Tom_Cruise._And_the_winner_was_(MSN_Video)_Sry._No_FF - Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There are no banned (or pulled, or whatever) episodes. Only Cartoon Wars contained visible censorship on the part of Comedy Central. It's the FCC that keeps them in line for the most part.
Again, no episodes have ever been 'pulled.' Bloody Mary wasn't rerun in normal scheduling out of respect for the holidays, not because some horrific Catholic cult pulled some strings (though they did try). I was one of the many who wrote angry letters (to both parties) about the 'pulling' of Bloody Mary, but even I'm okay with them toning it down a little for the holidays.
Much like the Cruise episode, it was removed from the regularly-scheduled reruns because of timing, not ethical obligations. Yes, you should be able to offend anyone, any time, and any place - but I don't think these descisions were made in an attempt to silence the show. In truth, the refusal to air Muhammed was much more telling. - nicerobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3'He added that the image probably will not be shown on the DVD version either, but "I look forward to the day when we can uncover it."'
That's such *****! The point is, they allowed a religious group to force them to acknowledge Muhammad as if it he were sacred to everyone. ***** that, ***** respecting Muhammad and ***** anyone that tries to force me to respect him. I can respect the beliefs of others WITHOUT having to acknowledge/respect any specifics about their beliefs. You worship what you want but don't expect me to have to know what I can and can't do with knowledge I have about your beliefs. I'll poke fun and be as ignorant and insensitive as I want. Feel free to do the same about my beliefs. I don't really give a *****. Blaspheme away!
http://hodja.wordpress.com/2006/02/22/muhammed-smiley/
Hey look, it's Muhammad: (((:~{>
Oh no! Intoxicated Mohammed (((%u2021o{Þ
Muhammad turns Christian ((( :~{> - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"I don't think Muhammad being shown would've been that bad."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons#Economic_and_human_costs
A Danish newspaper published cartoons of Muhammad, some of which depicted him as a terrorist. 139 people were killed in the ensuing protests.
Put yourself in Comedy Central's place. If you show the clip uncensored, you have a very good chance of sparking similar protests that could leave even more people dead, which in turn could drive viewers away from your channel. What would you do?
It's not an easy choice. - merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"It's the FCC that keeps them in line for the most part."
As noted above, the FCC does not regulate cable. However, the combination of pressure from advertisers, and fear of the FCC *begining* to regulate cable keep cable channels from doing whatever they please.
Were basic cable channels to, for example, begin running uncensored porn during primetime, there'd likely be a public outcry which would lead to the FCC stepping in. - jlabs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"I wish Tom Cruise would stop being a weirdo in public so I can sort-of-not-really like his movies again"
It happend after he fired his publicist. The publicist is what kept us from seeing is weirdness for awhile now. It is hard to see a movie with him in it and niot think about all of the Scientology BS. - Ghiren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That is odd... Maybe noone noticed because he wasn't the focus of the episode. It's not like they were ridiculing him or anything. I thought the way they showed him was pretty cool.
Here's the scene with Mohammed in it, btw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56Zah5qXLnI - pseudojd, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5yup, you are right. you are a pussy.
- Ghiren, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I agree, I thought it was a great joke. They built the story up over an episode and a half for a huge climax, then claim that Comedy Central fell victim to the same pressures that their version of Fox was struggling with. It was probably funnier than if they'd actually shown Muhammad.
As for the Tom Cruise episode, if you can't see it on CC, then get it off of bittorrent. I saw it, I already knew that Scientologists were brainwashed nutjobs at the time. They're just upset that it showed how ridiculous their beliefs are. -
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