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- ltchimpo, on 04/27/2008, -10/+25Your extensive acting career makes you an authority.
"Why be the guy that impersonates people when you can impersonate the impersonator?"- Witchboy, on 04/27/2008, -11/+4Personally, I'm happy when someone of ANY political persuasion gets involved in volunteer work. (Wouldn't a thoughtful, moderate conservative call it "one less program that the government has to pay for?") By your statement and tone, you obviously care more about your partisan anger than positive change. That's really sad and it's not what the US needs right now. You've made nothing in the way of rational argument and I suspect reason will never reach you. Keep tearing the country apart.
- sgtpppr, on 04/27/2008, -2/+5No, I think he (like many of us) are sick of celebrities acting like they have some expertise in areas of charity, world politics, and the future of humanity. Most celebrities simply have a lot of money, a lot of free time, and a desperate need for attention. Whether or not what they are doing good for mankind, they're still just regular people and the vast majority don't know what the hell they are talking about.
- osko2052, on 04/27/2008, -2/+4No, people like Sean Penn are tearing this country apart with their conspiracy theories and lies.
- ltchimpo, on 04/27/2008, -4/+2Well, it's unfortunate that you put your mindreading abilities to such worthwhile causes as psychoanalyzing the character on digg that doesn't like when our entertainers act as our educators. Here's to you character-development guy, this fodder's for you. What have you got? What do these sentances tell you about me?
And basic Freud tells me that it is you Witchboy, in fact, who is consumed by partisan anger, for I am bi-partisan for the same reason I hold no biases against people of a certain skin tone: the women look hot on both sides of the political spectrum.
- osko2052, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6Exactly, don't forget he is Jeff Spicoli.
- bigteebo, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2Before you complain about anything Sean Penn's done, ask yourself: what has Paris Hilton done lately?
- BOFH2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5I could honestly care less about what they do. I saw his name on this and new it would be yet another virtual stroking of Sean's ego.
- RepubOperative, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3Sean Penn the ***** marxist.
- nick111, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1On the other hand, if you'd listened to him over the Iraq war, you wouldn't be quite so ***** right now.
At least he's right about things. Conservatives are never right about anything - and before you angrily recoil, try to think of 10? 5? 1? conservative poliies that have actually benefited the majority of people.
They get into power, "we the people" wind up worse off, and then we have to wait around for a more liberal goverment to come along and put the economy back together.
- nick111, on 04/28/2008, -1/+1On the other hand, if you'd listened to him over the Iraq war, you wouldn't be quite so ***** right now.
- Witchboy, on 04/27/2008, -11/+4Personally, I'm happy when someone of ANY political persuasion gets involved in volunteer work. (Wouldn't a thoughtful, moderate conservative call it "one less program that the government has to pay for?") By your statement and tone, you obviously care more about your partisan anger than positive change. That's really sad and it's not what the US needs right now. You've made nothing in the way of rational argument and I suspect reason will never reach you. Keep tearing the country apart.
- mwrl, on 04/27/2008, -20/+54Sean Penn is the example of a liberal with his head in the sand. What a moron!
- bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -20/+7And you are an example of a tool.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -13/+3And you are an example of a Fool.
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+12The Gatekeeper is an example of Zuul.
- macweirdo42, on 04/27/2008, -1/+7Are you a god?
- SteveIsTheDude, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2If ANYBODY asks you that question, the correct answer is YES!
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+12The Gatekeeper is an example of Zuul.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -13/+3And you are an example of a Fool.
- FatLoser, on 04/27/2008, -3/+14Biofuel is a nightmare for the environment. Just like ethanol, people jumped on the bandwagon and now it's becoming apparent that the CO2 emissions from biodiesel are many times worse than assumed.
- warriorscot, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1CO2 emmisions don't really matter as like old fashioned alcohol production they have only one feedstock that takes all its carbon from the environment and the overall carbon balance is neutral, however its the particulate levels and the massive amounts of feedstock(biomass) required and that eats into food supplies.
- jacothedevil, on 04/27/2008, -7/+2haha. i dont think ive ever heard that expression. "liberal with his head in the sand."
- bphicke, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Because your head is in the sand.
- vaga222, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4Don't normally like the whole liberal/right wing bashing but this time I think you might have a point. I think he would be better using a push bike to deliver the corn and wheat which made the biodesil to some poor people are struggling to afford it.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Not only that, but we feed much of the World. We are right now using 30% of our Corn for Gas. With 10% being ethanol and the The New CAFÃ Standards going to 15% we will be close to 50% of our Corn being used as Gas.
That's idiotic. Those people need food. What kind of World are we saving if 1/2 the people starve to death?
Make no since at all to anyone with a normal thinking brain.
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Not only that, but we feed much of the World. We are right now using 30% of our Corn for Gas. With 10% being ethanol and the The New CAFÃ Standards going to 15% we will be close to 50% of our Corn being used as Gas.
- lester1024, on 04/27/2008, -2/+0As much as I hate Sean Penn, Biodiesel kicks ass. Biodiesel > Ethanol
- warriorscot, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Read the article Biodiesel is not the point that he is making what he is doing is trying to encourage young people to get involved in the community and stand up for their beliefs.
- Mikhail101, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1Take out sand and insert ass.
- bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -20/+7And you are an example of a tool.
- FishHammer, on 04/27/2008, -10/+25who cares?
- CowboyBebop, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5I know I don't care. Yes, because he's a celebrity we have to give him and every other celebrity the same sort of credence we would any regular joe schmoe, right???
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -6/+5No you don't have to listen to him at all.
But he's putting his money where his mouth is. He believes in cutting his carbon emissions and reducing dependency on oil, so he's taking ACTION to do something about it. What the ***** have you done lately for a cause you support?- BOFH2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2data from ORNL (Oak Ridge National Laboratory) indicates that total hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and NOx are all higher for bio-diesel
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -6/+5No you don't have to listen to him at all.
- CowboyBebop, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5I know I don't care. Yes, because he's a celebrity we have to give him and every other celebrity the same sort of credence we would any regular joe schmoe, right???
- bethehammer, on 04/27/2008, -6/+20wow that's original. I wish more people could follow Sean Penn's lead and use biodiesel /sarcasm
Willie Nelson has been smoking weed and doing this for years now - he even has a biodiesel fuel station in the works- twiztidsinz, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6Dugg for Willie
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -9/+2You're just bitter that "The Dirty Hands Caravan" isn't YOUR brainchild and that YOU aren't going to a jazz festival.
- Tenlow, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3willie nelson has had a biodiesel station for a while.
- twiztidsinz, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1but then he smoked it :-(
Silly Willie, is there nothing he wont smoke?
- twiztidsinz, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1but then he smoked it :-(
- eminiguy, on 04/27/2008, -3/+8I would find a better use for his money, but hey, that's his money...
- Alix7, on 04/27/2008, -9/+22Keep up the good work Mr. Penn,
In the meantime, may I borrow your private jet filled with wine, beer, sushi, pizza and hookers, fly it to Los Angeles, bang a few Playmates, then go to New York to eat diamonds and ***** out guns.- FatLoser, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2If he really does that stuff, I just gained a great deal of respect for the man. Takes a trooper to ***** out a gun.
- hmunkey, on 04/27/2008, -11/+6Mr. Penn has good ideas, but what is riding a bus going to accomplish? A man of his stature could easily do more to help fix today's problems.
- nastronomical, on 04/27/2008, -7/+14Vomit
- notadiggtard, on 04/27/2008, -7/+44Penn is an idiot.
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -8/+64If Sean Penn was fighting the war against hunger, he might realize that snatching up a gigantic proportion of the worlds food crops and fertile land to make an expensive fuel that must be subsidized by government funds just might not be the greatest idea, after all.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -6/+11Biodiesel from algae doesn't use food crops or arable land. You can also make it out of WASTE oil.
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -6/+10But unfortunately, most activists and politicians that have jumped on the biodiesel bandwagon are going after the corn crops. Biodiesel = nice idea, poor execution, for the most part. Since the article doesn't mention what the source of the fuel is, I'm going to assume it's corn.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -6/+3Biodiesel is seldom made from corn. That's ETHANOL you're thinking of.
My guess is he's using waste canola oil from restaurants. - Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -3/+4I've amended my thread now that I've researched the issue a little more. Yes, there is a distinction between corn ethanol and biodiesel that I totally ignored. While that invalidates part of my argument, most biofuels including biodiesel, corn ethanol, etc are inefficient to produce and take resources away from the production of other things, such as food.
Biodiesels are often made from sunflower or soybean, rather than corn. Their production is similarly inefficient. Research out of Berkeley shows that
-- soybean plants requires 27 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced, and
-- sunflower plants requires 118 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced.
http://www.physorg.com/news4942.html
And wikipedia says biodiesel does not equal canola oil from restaurants:
Biodiesel is distinguished from the straight vegetable oil (SVO) (aka "waste vegetable oil", "WVO", "unwashed biodiesel", "pure plant oil", "PPO") used (alone, or blended) as fuels in some converted diesel vehicles. "Biodiesel" is standardized as mono-alkyl esters and other non-diesel fuels of biological origin are not included
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3No, it doesn't equal waste vegetable oil, but you can easily process it (as you said) into biodiesel.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -6/+3Biodiesel is seldom made from corn. That's ETHANOL you're thinking of.
- digitalhair, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4i dugg your comment up, but people are right to be critical when the term "biodiesel" is thrown around so frivolously. If the buses run off of biodiesel from algae and NOT corn or other food crops, the title of the article should state so. Otherwise, the activism and Sean Penn's celebrity status potentially negate the positive influence the endeavor might generate simply because political hacks can sieze upon the lack of thoughtfulness so easily.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -3/+3What the hell is this "Corn and other food crops" bit?
Biodiesel isn't made from corn. That's ETHANOL.- digitalhair, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1my point is that a lot of people don't know that.
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1You're right, and I apologize for my ignorance. I was not technically correct. However, my new understanding is that similar issues to what I described about corn ethanol might apply when biodiesel is created from sunflower or soybean.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4I don't deny this.
But lately there's a trend to link all biofuel to corn, which is increasing in price. This isn't because of the higher demand for corn, but because the price of fuel (for tractors and such) is driving food prices up across the board. Even wheat, which isn't a biofuel crop, has seen its price triple.
So yes, I do speak out against the numerous comments on this article that link biodiesel to corn.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4I don't deny this.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -3/+3What the hell is this "Corn and other food crops" bit?
- mchavez, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Unfortunately, biodiesel from algae is not in commerical use, it more likely they are using biodiesel from crops or animals.
"Biodiesel is commonly produced by the transesterification of the vegetable oil or animal fat feedstock."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel
I prefer he help the zero-emissions all-electric vehicle movement.
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -6/+10But unfortunately, most activists and politicians that have jumped on the biodiesel bandwagon are going after the corn crops. Biodiesel = nice idea, poor execution, for the most part. Since the article doesn't mention what the source of the fuel is, I'm going to assume it's corn.
- had3l, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5*cough cough* Unless he has an IQ above room temperature and realizes that you can actually produce biofuels from sources other than food crops. If only the government didn't subsidize it, people would *actually* have to look for other more efficient ways of producing it.
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1That's a couple maybe's right there, but we've got to deal with today's reality. The price of oil is going up, that means it costs more to transport goods, and the price of goods goes up, including food products. So, the rush to create some sort of alternative fuel source convinces investors and government to listen to some of the most vocal, if not intelligent, guys in green and start churning out corn biodiesel en masse. Existing food crops and arable land are diverted to the effort. The new scarcity of food also causes food prices to go up. On top of it all, governments are subsidizing the effort, as the corn biodiesels are more expensive to make than it is to purchase oil. And money from government is money from our pockets, which is less money we have to spend on things like... food. If this were all still theoretical and resources and money weren't already being shunted for the production of corn biodiesel, then I'd agree with your "if only the government didn't."
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Replace "corn biodiesel" with "biofuel from food crops" and my argument has been amended sufficiently to remain legitimate.
- had3l, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2My point is, don't blame Ethanol or Biodiesel. Blame the government for putting your money into subsidizing Corn Ethanol instead of R&D for a better way of attaining Biofuels.
- burningmanstan, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1None of the most intelligent guys in green ever approved of all of this crop derived biofuel madness. The government and "investors" ie scammers decided that this was a good idea, all by themselves, before the scientists came to any conclusions on efficiency. Money from the government is money going into the pockets of lobbyists and the corporations (agra business) and the politicians who are on their pay roll. And please stop associating biodiesel with corn. NOBOBY MAKES BIODIESEL FROM CORN AND STOP POSTING ALL THIS DRIVEL UNTIL YOU PROPERLY RESEARCH THE ISSUE.
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1That's a couple maybe's right there, but we've got to deal with today's reality. The price of oil is going up, that means it costs more to transport goods, and the price of goods goes up, including food products. So, the rush to create some sort of alternative fuel source convinces investors and government to listen to some of the most vocal, if not intelligent, guys in green and start churning out corn biodiesel en masse. Existing food crops and arable land are diverted to the effort. The new scarcity of food also causes food prices to go up. On top of it all, governments are subsidizing the effort, as the corn biodiesels are more expensive to make than it is to purchase oil. And money from government is money from our pockets, which is less money we have to spend on things like... food. If this were all still theoretical and resources and money weren't already being shunted for the production of corn biodiesel, then I'd agree with your "if only the government didn't."
- Icupnimpn2, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1I'm going to censer myself here by saying that biodiesel is not actually made from corn. I have confused the issue and difference between biofuels and specifically biodiesel. Part of my point is therefore invalid, while other parts still hold up. If Sean Penn is using biodiesel, then he is not necessarily part of the problem.
However, if my own ignorance can be used as a measure of the ignorance of society in general, where biofuels=ethanol=biodiesel then we can see that there is still danger for government and society to throw resources into the wrong endeavor.- burningmanstan, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1Although ignorance is certainly part of the problem, the current corn ethanol debacle is lobbyists, agra business, and some politicians taking you and every tax payer for a ride. However my main question is: With your own self proclaimed ignorance of biofuel issues, why were you so eager to take the stance that all biofuels=world hunger? At least you are willing to admit that some of your points were wrong and I'm glad to see that at least one more person knows more about biofuel issues.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -6/+11Biodiesel from algae doesn't use food crops or arable land. You can also make it out of WASTE oil.
- narcofiche, on 04/27/2008, -11/+9If this was some random person doing this then everyone would be applauding, but because it's Sean Penn, some people immediately dismiss it. Who cares if he's a celebrity, he's actually using that to help spread the word about important issues. Most people talk about these issues, he's actually doing something. Good for him.
- had3l, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Yeah, but nowadays, everything you do is given a political label. Since when is doing good and helping the environment exclusive to liberals and left-wing radicals?
- narcofiche, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2It isn't exclusive. I didn't even mention political parties or labels in my comment. If people feel that liberals or left-wing radicals are the only ones getting the attention, maybe the right should do a little more. I don't feel that way so it isn't an issue for me.
- TrevorBelmont, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Sean Penn jumped shark the day he was at a rally and directed the fallowing comment to the president:
"You and the smarmy pundits in your pocket – those who bathe in the moisture of your soiled and blood-soaked underwear – can take that noise and shove it."
I'm no Bush supporter but this crosses the line. If you have some legitimate criticism of the President then by all means offer it. Be vulgar if you deem it necessary but make sense and be on point while you do it. Implying that the President walks around pissing himself while ***** blood to the point that his clothing becomes saturated doesn't accomplish anything but undermining your own integrity and make me lose all respect I might have or ever will have had for you. Mr. Penn has illustrated that he is too out of touch and over zealous to be taken seriously and the media should stop giving him a forum to run his mouth.
- had3l, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Yeah, but nowadays, everything you do is given a political label. Since when is doing good and helping the environment exclusive to liberals and left-wing radicals?
- thatguyfred, on 04/27/2008, -5/+14
- dkeck14, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1actually...directing. I'm no Sean Penn fan by any means, but "Into the Wild" was fantastic.
- kirtap, on 04/27/2008, -4/+9He's fighting the war in Iraq? From a bus?
I think our good ol' military intelligence should be knockin on his door and asking how he's doing that from a bus while our guys are dying in the sand..- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1He's not fighting IN the war, he's fighting the war. Big difference.
- twiztidsinz, on 04/27/2008, -2/+11So using biodiesel in a frivolous manner is helping?
- bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1You are short-sighted. Shouldn't the sum usage of energy be considered instead of what Al Gore or Sean Penn wastes? If somehow they convince millions of people to be energy conscious, don't you think their fuel and carbon footprint expenses would be worth it?
I appreciate that you're ideologically opposed to people like Al Gore and Sean Penn, but use some common sense. Think of the big picture for a change.- twiztidsinz, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Al Gore... who's made millions off of the global warming scare?
And who I'm sure gets flown his private jet around to place to place rather than being truly earth conscious and using public air travel?
I'm not saying biodiesel is bad, I'm saying using biodiesel on a frivolous trip is.
Short term: It's a big waste....
Long term: It's a drop in the bucket.... but a drop that someone who's supposed to be energy conscious should be willing to give up for another person to use and thereby reduce their own personal 'carbon footprint'. - BOFH2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4Sorry the big picture is that we have mass media capabilities and traveling around in any conveyance is a waste of resources. He could sit in a room in his mansion and talk to just about anyone.
- bicyclethief, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1You're right! Nobody needs to travel anywhere to communicate ever again.
- twiztidsinz, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Al Gore... who's made millions off of the global warming scare?
- bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -4/+1You are short-sighted. Shouldn't the sum usage of energy be considered instead of what Al Gore or Sean Penn wastes? If somehow they convince millions of people to be energy conscious, don't you think their fuel and carbon footprint expenses would be worth it?
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -8/+12So he is wasting fuel like AL-GORE and we are supposed to care? These Guys are way to high and I don't mean flying.
- digitalhair, on 04/27/2008, -8/+1"wasting fuel like AL-GORE"
...dear God you're a helpless fool. - bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -6/+3You are short-sighted. Shouldn't the sum usage of energy be considered instead of what Al Gore or Sean Penn wastes? If somehow they convince millions of people to be energy conscious, don't you think their fuel and carbon footprint expenses would be worth it?
I appreciate that you're ideologically opposed to people like Al Gore and Sean Penn, but use some common sense. Think of the big picture for a change.- LeadOffMan, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2big picture? yes, mr. left-wing elitist, you are so much smarter than us bitter people. Please take care of us, tax us unnecessarily, give us free healthcare - c'mon be our sugar daddy. Listening to the dims makes me want to vomit
- bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2lol
You are so consumed by the left vs. right, liberal vs. conservative fight, you can't even rationally discuss the issues. How sad.
- bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2lol
- NYPD, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Stop eating so we can make Gas out of YOUR food. It's called GLOBAL WARMING not AMERICA WARMING you IDIOT!
If people breathing is pollution I think all the people who believe this should do the Comocozy thing so the rest of us can live.
If the Dem's did this we would have all the food, Jobs, fuel and everything else you waste. The World would be a better place too.- bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2Your comment wasn't even coherent. Comocozy = kamikaze??
- digitalhair, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1well stated. I appreciate that you are focused on the problem and not Al Gore or Sean Penn like so many others that want to have an unhelpful and useless opinion on celebrity when: our boys are fighting over in Iraq; politicians with wealth built upon oil are supressing innovation in alternative energy-production; I'm paying an unsustainable percentage of my income on the increasing costs for fuel and food while my employer is justifying decreased pay based on recession - all this, thanks to INFLATION
- BOFH2, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1If you can repost the same comment; I will too. - Sorry the big picture is that we have mass media capabilities and traveling around in any conveyance is a waste of resources. He could sit in a room in his mansion and talk to just about anyone.
- bicyclethief, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2You're right! Nobody needs to travel anywhere to communicate ever again.
- LeadOffMan, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2big picture? yes, mr. left-wing elitist, you are so much smarter than us bitter people. Please take care of us, tax us unnecessarily, give us free healthcare - c'mon be our sugar daddy. Listening to the dims makes me want to vomit
- digitalhair, on 04/27/2008, -8/+1"wasting fuel like AL-GORE"
- had3l, on 04/27/2008, -3/+16Too bad biodisel from Corn barely reduces greenhouse gases at all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel
Compare to Sugar Cane, which actually reduces emissions by 87–96%- jessestorm, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4Ethanol is not biodiesel. Biodiesel is an ester made from oils and alcohols. Ethanol is not very efficient, and biodiesel is a much better option. Your numbers are wrong too.
Sean Penn has good intentions by doing this, but he won't get anywhere.- tsotha, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3Well, he'll get farther than he did in the boat at New Orleans. Hahahahahahahahaha.
- had3l, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2You are right, I meant to say Biofuel. But how can MY numbers be wrong? They are not mine at all, I gave you the source where I got them from.
- Zera, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2"Compare to Sugar Cane, which actually reduces emissions by 87–96%"
And ONLY does so because ethanol is a BY-PRODUCT of making sugar, which means the cost of sugar off sets the inputs needed, and therefore, Ethanol from sugar cane already used for sugar is an efficient system.
- jessestorm, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4Ethanol is not biodiesel. Biodiesel is an ester made from oils and alcohols. Ethanol is not very efficient, and biodiesel is a much better option. Your numbers are wrong too.
- jabberwolf, on 04/27/2008, -5/+10Is he using corn biodiesel ?
Because that stuff takes too much energy to produce!- dhughes, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3 Probably because it doesn't exist.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2You don't make biodiesel from corn. You make ethanol from corn.
- kreatre2007, on 04/27/2008, -5/+12Sean Penn is a ***** idiot. Anyone who thinks that biofuels will help "save the planet" are idiots. Carbon dioxide is released from ALL combustion reactions. It's a natural waste product. What's more, the bio fuel movement is what is causing food prices to go up. Liberals like Al Gore don't understand ***** about how the economy works and even less about how the climate works.
- darou, on 04/27/2008, -6/+1come on now, don't take everyone with an opinion different than yours for total morons.
"The bio fuel movement is what is causing food prices to go up" Not exactly... the extreme commoditisation of food is what causes food prices to go up and down so much. If we started to look at food slightly differently than the rest of what is produced in our uber-industrial world, maybe less people would be starving.
Oh and meat production is also pretty important when trying to understand why people aren't bathing themselves in potatoes, cassava, wheat, corn, rice, etc. Red meat in your grocery store is a much more important cause of problems than bio-fuels if you ask me. It's just been a slower transition.
*puts on his helmet preparing for the "you're a ***** leftist" bashing- kreatre2007, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3I have no problems with opinions that don't match mine but, I still think that Sean Penn is a ***** idiot.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2No, it's the price of fuel that's making food prices go up.
For example, wheat has tripled in price despite not being a biofuel crop. - jacothedevil, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2im glad people are at least talking about the economic and environmental factors with biodiesels. all in all, i think its agreed, sean penn is a moron.
- digitalhair, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2and you're an expert??? okay, let's examine your statement, ignoring the obvious political wankery of the your last sentence: "Carbon Dioxide is released from ALL combustion reactions" - except when CARBON IS NOT IN THE EQUATION. MAN, i hate it that we have all of this H2O laying around knowing that burning hydrogen releases so much carbon dioxide into the air, pfththththththththt.
And why is it that the right wing oil-mongers like to point out how little Al Gore "understands" when anyone with a brain should give him credit for being the one who was FINALLY able to inject the very real crisis into the international political and legal dialogue. My 82 year old REPUBLICAN grandmother is RECYCLING NOW, thanks to the conscienciousness generated by the debate Al Gore has started.
- darou, on 04/27/2008, -6/+1come on now, don't take everyone with an opinion different than yours for total morons.
- MadOgre, on 04/27/2008, -3/+10Sean Penn might be pulling a Jimmy Carter here, but it doesn't change the fact that Sean and Jimmy are both *****.
- Grooblle, on 04/27/2008, -16/+3Sean Penn is the man!
- pooty2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1Not in these comments.
- HenvY, on 04/27/2008, -4/+12Biodiesel is stupid. It might 'help the enviornment', but it hurts homosapiens. It is not a viable alternative energy.
- darou, on 04/27/2008, -6/+0oh and regular fuel is?
- HenvY, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1No, but solar, wind and wave power are and these can all be harnessed to provide electricity for a car to run. Equally, hydrogen is.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -7/+1How does it hurt homosapiens? By providing a new source of energy? By not polluting the air that homosapiens breath?
- zcreem, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3By putting an extra demand on limited food crops.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Then make it out of waste oil and algae, neither of which puts pressure on food stocks.
Don't buy the "Biofuel's making food prices go up" bs right now. Yes, eventually it will affect supply if we use food crops and arable land for fuel production, but the current price increases are because of OIL is rising in price. For example, wheat has nearly tripled despite not being a biofuel crop. Why? Because farmers need to fuel their tractors and truckers need to bring the food to market.
It will be just as bad if we don't find alternative energy sources and our food distribution networks collapse. At least this way farmers can use a PORTION of their crops to produce energy to fuel the equipment and transport the crop to market.
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Then make it out of waste oil and algae, neither of which puts pressure on food stocks.
- zcreem, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3By putting an extra demand on limited food crops.
- darou, on 04/27/2008, -6/+0oh and regular fuel is?
- Crossmenjeff, on 04/27/2008, -4/+15celebrities are NOT experts in geopolitics, environmental sciences, economics, and insert random cause someone with too much money and free time would take to. Sure there are one or two out there, but for the most part, they aren't.
- GhostyBoy, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I agree, but why is everyone ripping on Penn? He's trying to do what he thinks is right. Would they prefer if he just squander all that money on coke and hookers?
- Picaroon, on 04/27/2008, -4/+15Sean Penn, I know your heart is in the right place. I appreciate that you care.
Unfortunately, driving a biodiesel bus around does nothing for the environment.- darou, on 04/27/2008, -4/+0it gets people interested.. that's a start!
- bicyclethief, on 04/27/2008, -5/+1So anyone who wants to spread a message having anything to do with energy conservation should hang glide to their next destination? Way to be short sighted.
- SaladCactusKing, on 04/27/2008, -3/+5film actors guild
- pogfreak, on 04/27/2008, -4/+9whiny piece of crap
- Commodore84, on 04/27/2008, -4/+10"As the biodiesel buses make their way across U.S. cities, the plan is to have its members volunteer for local organizations or do whatever they feel inspired to do."
Or whatever they feel inspired to do... sounds like a bunch of pot smoking and drum circle playing is on the schedule. - johnnyfistfight, on 04/27/2008, -4/+8The apple doesn't fall from the tree. Penn's pop was a Communist Party activist who sought appeasement of Hitler's Germany at the very time the concentration camps were incinerating his Jewish brothers and sisters in Europe. Sean is seeking to appease Iran and defends Iran, the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world today and he hates Matt Stone and Trey Parker over Team America World Police. Which only goes to show you he has to sense of humor.
- da_bradler, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2Why would a communist Party activist want anything to do with Hitler Germany? The nazis were fascists which is as far from communist as you can get.
- LeadOffMan, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2no their not. fascism raises the nation and race over individuals. Not that far apart on the lefty scale.
- burningmanstan, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2Yes, it is obvious that biodiesel is part of a communist, fascist, concentration camp, Iranian, Team America World
Police plot to take over the world.
- da_bradler, on 04/27/2008, -3/+2Why would a communist Party activist want anything to do with Hitler Germany? The nazis were fascists which is as far from communist as you can get.
- alpharuin, on 04/27/2008, -7/+6When did digg convert to anti-liberalism?
- bromac, on 04/27/2008, -6/+3I don't know. Today's been insane with the amount of "libtard" comments that are getting dugg up. When the hell did Digg swing right?
- LeadOffMan, on 04/27/2008, -2/+3the college kids must be growing up
- Connormac44, on 04/27/2008, -2/+9But he's still an *****...
- mmilburn, on 04/27/2008, -4/+4Great idea. Let's burn our crops while food rationing is starting to manifest itself in the USA.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ned=us& ... - brad3378, on 04/27/2008, -3/+4No matter what side of the issue you're on, you can't deny that this is a great way for Sean Pean to get laid for the rest of eternity. Chicks dig guys that are on a mission to help humanity.
So is there a waterbed on that bus or what? - thirdcoastborn, on 04/27/2008, -1/+10the same sean penn who hired a photographer to follow him around new orleans and take pictures of him "saving" people. the guy is a joke.
- dhughes, on 04/27/2008, -4/+5 If he quit smoking I'd be impressed. Tobacco is a waste of land which food could be grown on, it pollutes the air, it causes illness, manufactured by large soul-less corporations etc.
Smoke if you want to but don't preach about the environment, anti-globalization while you puff away.- LeadOffMan, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2thank you. best comment I've read on digg in a long time!!!
- RHMiller, on 04/27/2008, -1/+7Sean Penn is a colossal ass. http://thecandidacy.com/2008/03/27/hollywood-exper ...
- santaliqueur, on 04/27/2008, -2/+2I applaud Sean Penn. Whilst driving around in this bus, that's one less guy who will be starring in movie roles in which the main character gets to suck on the nipples of Naomi Watts. I'm totally moving to Hollywood.
- chubbybubba, on 04/27/2008, -5/+2WTF. Where the hell did this resurgence of hippies come from? It must be that dude Glen from Rev 3. Someone need to stop him and his hippy shoes.
- siszam, on 04/27/2008, -9/+1You know, the better a person is and the more good they do the more bitter the hate and vitriol from the fake Christians on the Right. You people hate Cindy Sheehan.....the mother of a fallen soldier who fights for the lives of all soldiers. You hate Sean for going to New Orleans or doing any good work. You Neo Cons would crucify Christ if it hadn't already been done. You're known by your fruits and you people are rotten.
- pooty2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Apparently, neo-cons and liberals are both rotten. So go independent!
- TrevorBelmont, on 04/27/2008, -0/+6You've misinterpreted hate of Sean Penn as hate of liberals and in the process you've embarrassed yourself. You don't have to be a neocon to see that this guy is a self righteous, out of touch, off the point, ass who shouts his edicts of what everyone has to do to remake the world in accordance with his vision with such conviction and smug self assurance as to border on megalomania. He's a loudmouth nut ball with delusions of grandeur. Disliking someone who's always shouting what he thinks you should think doesn't link anyone to any political affiliation, it just links them to a sense of reason and integrity.
- dingoberries, on 04/27/2008, -1/+14Sean Penn is a pretentious douchebag.
- jacothedevil, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6i read this time magazine article a while back... "the clean energy scam"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1 ...
in the long run, i think im definitely pro "clean renewable energy" versus our nations dependence on foreign oil, but no one's talking about the effects that biodiesels has on the economy and the environment. taking shortcuts to fix our nations energy/environmental is only gona put us further in the hole. at least some people are talkin about the economics of it! terrible stuff!
we can't settle for parlor tricks by politicians or "wanabe" eco-friendly newbs like mister penn. - haveitall, on 04/27/2008, -3/+1I can't believe people still think biofuels are good for the environment. In the end it's going to be worse for the world than oil has been if it keeps up like it has been.
- zcreem, on 04/27/2008, -2/+5Turning food into fuel is not helping anyone except the guilty rich liberal.
- shiftclick, on 04/27/2008, -1/+7Buried. Cuz it says "Sean Penn" in the title. He's on my terrorist watch list... and he's a psycho.
- neozero497, on 04/27/2008, -4/+3For what it is worth. Biofuels aren't all that bad. Instead of getting ethanol from corn we can use sawdust. In addition, Biodiesel can be made using algae without displacing land used for food production. Read up on these things, which are not always black or white.
- madmondo, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5I think Biofuels are a great thing but I hate Sean Penn
- BigMouthBass, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2Mr. Penn, O, Please, Please, Please: Take your head out of the sack and pull yourself out of the quicksand of Feelin' Good, Lookin' Better. This is not a sustainable or smart alternative to gasoline or fossil fuels in general. Bio-diesel, the so-called solution to The Energy Crisis has 1) already lead to The Global Food Crisis, the effects of which we as a species are only beginning to see, and 2) takes up so many resources and so much energy in production that it is of NO benefit to people or our environment in the long run. The US is taking food from the mouths of other nations, as well as from many of our own citizens who have seen grocery bill continue to rise in the last year, in order to feed machines - buses for example - that take people to concerts and on party tours to New Orleans. Doesn't this seem wrong, perhaps even EVIL, to you?? Some have suggested that "at least Sean Penn is DOING something, trying to be part of the solution..." Action is not always the way to solve a problem. In this case, what is needed is less action, in a way - that is to say, not less ACTIVISM, but less frivolous motion, less road-tripping, less head-tripping. Going about daily activity with the lowest energy consumption possible would do more to help this cause than leading a fleet of energy guzzling buses loaded with people who seem to think that somehow consuming MORE will lead to LESS pollution. Can you else see the error in this logic, Mr Penn? I know that many people do, so why, o why can't you? People are starving. The world is dying. Stop the bus before it's too late.
- TecK415, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8He lives right down the street from my school. His house is a ***** castle. Everyone I know who has met him says he's the most smug bastard they've ever talked to.
- lupydupy, on 04/27/2008, -9/+0Outstanding! Sean Penn for PRESIDENT!!!!! Thats what we need, someone who actually CARES about he country not just anotehr pompous, self serving politician. Wow, wouldnt it be nice.
http://www.iurlz.com/datools- BOFH2, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4I must have missed the /sarcasm note in your post.
- rheaume, on 04/27/2008, -5/+1Wow, totally blown away by the tidal waves of American assholes on this ***** site now, the trip is meant to educate the retards in middle america that there are alternatives to filling up that f450 with premium to go pick up bullets from the local walmart. ***** you. Burry me.
- zmigliozzi, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3Buried for being am inferring idiot. We also buy beer and chew.
- BOFH2, on 04/27/2008, -1/+2You asked; I delivered. Thank you.
- zmigliozzi, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1That is just like the first episode of the fresh prince of belair, cruising caravan around to protest for the environment.
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