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- littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -27/+152Pedophile Rapists deserve a good beating. Sorry, NEVER going to be any pity here for a Pedophile Rapist who gets beat by his victim.
- dggeek, on 10/12/2007, -19/+74"Pedophile Rapists deserve a good beating. Sorry, NEVER going to be any pity here for a Pedophile Rapist who gets beat by his victim."
I have a little pity, if only because he has not been convicted of anything and yet the media is calling him a pedophile, and digg users are cheering this violence. - EmmSee, on 10/12/2007, -16/+69Hey... if these sickos don't get put in jail for their entire lives they should expect this on the outside. I wish we saw more of this.
- littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -10/+46No Conviction - No Beating. Conviction - Beating.
- tekrat, on 10/12/2007, -14/+43If its proven in a court of law then he has every right to get lawful retribution (which hopefully include a stout stick). Until then, no beating, no caning, or any other form of physical abuse. Otherwise we go down the slippery slope of allowing torture to get a particular outcome.
- theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -10/+34Guess what? If someone thumps your skull, and you turn around and knock them right-the-***** out, they won't thump your skull anymore. True it's barbaric, but it ***** works. That can't be denied.
Pederasts are the lowest form of scum on Earth. Will you stop all pederasts? Of course not. But you WILL stop this one. And it is a known fact that the recidivism rate among pederasts is the highest of nearly every sexual disorder. So you fix THIS problem. And when the next problem comes along, you then fix THAT one. And on and on, permanently fixing problems as they pop up. It's what Jessica's Law is all about. In most states, first offense is 25 years Without the Possibility of Parole. Here in SC, the 2nd offense is The Chair.
I am sick and tired of people saying that these people need "help." They are ***** in the head. They don't need help. They need to be removed from society. My kid's and your kid's safety is FAR more important that this *****'s "delicate psyche." ***** him, before he ***** our kids. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30There are ways of dealing with scum who do stuff like he did to that boy, but resorting to mob violence isn't the best way. We live in a society with laws and ignoring them brings us all down.
I would be the first one in the queue to give that pedo the justice he deserves but not like this. - ajchavar, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26he is an alleged paedophile, for all we know the victim wanted to attack for other reasons and is claiming something that will be very hard to prove as a defense.
- xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25I'm a survivor of sexual abuse and I do not condone beating the crap out of someone because they did something like this to you. I'd rather see them in prison for the rest of their lives and be publicly shamed for what they did.
- danep, on 10/12/2007, -6/+24There happens to already be a code of justice in this country, as well as courts, judges, and executioners, and you know what? YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THEM. If you think this is "cool" or justice served in any way, if you get a thrill out of seeing this guy get beat up, you're almost as wrong in the head as that guy.
As much as I am disgusted by sex offenders, we need to seriously reconsider how we handle them in this country. If so many of them are repeat offenders, instead of being reactionary like this and setting up registration lists and making them hand out pamphlets to their neighbors saying "Hi, I'm a sex offender! Please harass, shun and assault me as you please!", maybe... just maybe... wouldn't it make more sense to figure out WHY they're doing it and FIX the cause rather than just tossing them in jail and preventing them from ever being a productive member of society.
Or short of that, DO toss them in jail for the rest of their lives. But let's not resort to vigilante justice here; good god, sometimes I have to remind myself of what century we're living in here... - Yggdrasil, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19I find it interesting how everyone is all for due process of the law until it doesn't go their way. This man was not convicted of a crime. If I were to walk across the street and beat the crap out of the guy who lives there, everyone would call me a horrible person; if I say "but he molested me when I was seven" I am suddenly a crusader of justice and everyone is on my side. There have been dozens of cases in the past where children who were NOT molested and were pressured into saying they were by parents and investigates who just want to 'put a sicko away'. Don't even consider whether or not he may have been innocent. Better to let 100 guilty men go free than wrongly convict one innocent man.
- jacks0n, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19I'm not going to comment on the moralities of this...
But isn't Oprah liable now, since inciting violence is illegal? - vertinox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16@"Sorry, NEVER going to be any pity here for a Pedophile Rapist who gets beat by his victim."
And if it turned out the victim was lying or the perp turned out to be innocent?
Yes, vigilantism has its benefits but things should be dealt with in a court of law. Lynch mobs have the bad habit of killing innocents in the process. - wusupdoe, on 10/12/2007, -16/+30I'm playing the world's smallest violin right now for the bastard. It's a shame that the father didn't let his son beat him within one inch of his life. That ***** has ruined 3 peoples lives; might as well give him a few scars so he'll never forget what he did.
- max420, on 10/12/2007, -9/+19Thats awesome... all pedophiles should be beat up.... HAR!
- PhantomRogue, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12@ jacks0n
Oprah is above the Law, know how many housewives will Riot if she gets taken off the air!? - diecastbeatdown, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12you said it man, nobody ***** with the jesus.
- thewebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8i think pedophiles have to get in line behind peaceful marijuana possession arrests.
- crazyc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"The same beating he got just now is exactly what will happen once our justice system actually puts him in jail."
Does that make it right? If the American public wishes for paedophiles to receive beating, they could easily incorporate into the judicial system: "I hereby condemn you to 4 years of prison, and 20 whiplashes." That would drag the judicial system right down to other countries that condone violence as a form of punishment.
Justice, yes. Mob rule, no. - gaijintendo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The spelling -pae- is correct for British-English speakers. Maybe many people on Digg are aware of this.
- oddmanout, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7early seventies? 20 years later? 1995? what exactly is the time line here?
Did this altercation take place 11 years ago for abuse that happened 30 years ago? It appears the beatdown took place Xmas '95... why is news now? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It's hard to agree with Patriot-X, but I do. This is why we have laws. I wonder if the same people cheering this guy's ass-kicking are the same who claim torturing Gitmo prisoners is wrong. Not saying anybody's un-American; what I mean is that there's a disconnect there. It's the same situation (evil person getting his "just desserts"), but the emotion of the sexual accusation somehow makes it more personal to people and causes people to be blinded by their own anger and disgust. Just like anyone else, this guy deserves a trial and, if guilty, imprisonment.
All that said...I'm not sure I'm any better than the next guy. I hope I'd do the right thing in a given situation, but I don't cry over these stories. It's all well and good to talk about how the law protects everyone, but if I'm honest with myself, I won't miss a wink of sleep if a pederast got his ass kicked. Might even sleep a little easier. Not proud of it, but it's pretty much true - OnlyShawn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7theblooms....I understand your point, man...but I've got to disagree.
"Guess what? If someone thumps your skull, and you turn around and knock them right-the-***** out, they won't thump your skull anymore. True it's barbaric, but it ***** works. That can't be denied."
Unfortunately, however, that's a presumption. You're arguing that beating this guy up will erase the possibility that he re-commits the crime. That's an assumption, and I'd bet that there isn't any data that would back it up.
I can understand the anger, and the desire to hurt someone that's hurt someone defenseless AS A PUNISHMENT, but proposing that retributive justice, meted out in a mob-ruled violence way, would 'solve' the problem is wishful thinking and regressive. - TheCount, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Aww, I thought It was going to be a story about someone getting beat up on the Oprah show with Oprah chanting, "Fight! Fight! Fight!"
- dmonkey1001, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9If you want to accuse someone of a crime, then do it legally. If they are convicted then they will pay the price for what they have done. What this supposed victim did was ignorant and constitutes assault. Both of these people should be arrested and stand trial for their actions. And anyone who cheers this type of thing should try getting out of the country and visiting 3rd world areas to see how well it works when people don't get a day in court to defend themselves.
- dmolavi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7but no white collar resort prison, only the finest in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prisons for people like this.
- BunnyWabbit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I am a therapist who specializes in treating not only victims of sexual abuse, but also their abusers.
Firstly, this may come as a shock to you, but there are a great many more paedophile that you think, but the vast majority never act on their feelings. You only know about the ones that do, because they are the ones who (rightfully) get arrested and have stories about them in the media.
There are many paedophiles who wish to get help so that they don't act on their feelings. But we live in a society where people like you reach for pitchforks & torches at the first mention of the word 'peadophile'. What this means is that these people cannot get the help they need. They cannot go to their doctor or hospital and ask for help. The first thing that happens is that the police are called, and the persons life is destroyed (even though they may never have acted on their feelings). Eventually some of these people do act on their feelings...something that was preventable.
The hysteria surrounded paedophilia actually makes the problem worse, and results in further children suffering. Paedohilia is in many ways an psychological illness. Extremely difficult to treat, but it is treatable..especially if help is sought early on. At my clinic, the recidivism rate is 16%. That's 84% who go on to live their lives without harming a child (Some have never done so)
Physical violence is not the answer. It will not stop a paedophile from reoffending. If anything, it can further alienate them from society which aggravates the causes of their illness. They need treatment, not your physical attacks.
The overwhelming majority of paedophiles hate what they are, but they are unable to change (on their own). Most do not want to hurt children, but find it extremely hard to control the feelings they have, and eventually they give in.
And yes, it is true that there are those who are happy being peadophiles. Some have little or no conscience, and act purely to serve their own needs an wants. These are the paedophiles that most likely will kill their victims. It is probably impossible to treat this group, and the only option is to keep them away from children and closely monitor them.
In short, this is not a black and while issue. And violence is not the answer. - manicleek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Really? are you touching each other?
- skankyBacon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4How about let's try him in a court of law first, and then if he's guilty, I'll totally agree with you.
- theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Yeah, but he's a pervert, Dude.
- theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Eight-year-olds, Dude.
- gardnmi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5FLATTENED! A steam roller is a bit of overkill.
- pinoyboy82, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6the pedophile needs the victims' names carved or tattooed into his forehead
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Shut the ***** up, Donny.
- geminito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So, he's dead or what? I read the article only to understand why the word "flattened" is used. I want pictures!
- majorca, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Not quite. The 'beating' he would get in jail might be a little different. They tend to be lonely in there.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The same beating he got just now is exactly what will happen once our justice system actually puts him in jail.
- spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5This discussion is sounding like Monty Python & The Search for the Holy Grail.
WE HAVE A WITCH MAY WE BURN HER?!
America - The land of hypocrisy. - southport, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Wow, slow news day? Nonstory.
- VeganG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What, no Youtube?!
- JackyTreehorn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What's a pederast Walter?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Though I personally feel that pedophiles should be beaten, you have a very good point. I'm not sure why you are being buried. Vigilante, which usually turns into Mob, justice just doesn't work..regardless of what Batman says.
- tytanium0503, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well, put yourself in his shoes. Remembering this, and having it pent up for all these years. When you see the person who did this to you and members of your family that you care about, you might just snap. In this case, it's what happened.
I see where you're coming from, and compassion is what we need, but I don't think that this person was completely in the wrong. I'm not particularly sure that there is a sure-fire way to "fix" the problem. I'm sure it would take a great deal of psychiatric help. If I were the victim, it would make me sick to see the person who did this to me and others walk the streets again. - Gomez1856, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"He is an alleged pedophile, I don't care if he did it or not - he was never convicted."
I was molested by a priest for a time period that spanned two years. I've brought charges against him, the diocese, and others twice. Due to the corruption of the organization and the completely out-dated and unfair laws that govern these situations, there was never a conviction. Within 12 hours of my press conference, Jan. 4th 2004, a dozen victims of this "Accused, but not convicted" person came forward citing abuse that occurred in schools located in Florida, New Jersey, and New York. He has settled out of court twice that I know of and has been moved across state lines to avoid prosecution in several other cases.
It sucks, but whether he was convicted or not is completely irrelevant! None of us know the truth, but the victim does. If the victim was abused by this person and the legal system does nothing, then I have no sympathy if the victim takes it into his/her hands.
- theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Pedophilia not violent? Since when is sex with an 8 year old NOT violent? Sorry, but they are NOT "making sweet love" to kids, even though that may be what they THINK they are doing. They are raping the kids. Rape, by definition, is violent.
- Gomez1856, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"surprise, surprise, religion isn't to fault. I don't blame Oprah, but people need to realize anything, absolutely anything can be blamed for crime. However, only certain things will be the actual cause of the crime."
I hope this wasn't directed as a reply to my post. At no time did I blame religion for anything (other than the organization methodically covering it up and harboring its perpetrators). The perpetrator was responsible for the crime, not the religion. - ezkiel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Isn't it Pedophile? Or is it spelled that way in other countries?"
Ya spelling is so damn important in this story. Check a dictionary ffs. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@H2gofast
"It's violence, not nicey-nicey thinking that keeps society safe. What exactly do you think it is that stops people from walking into your home and taking what they want. For most of us it's a conscience that holds us back, but for more people than you realize, the only thing stopping them from kicking your ass and taking your wallet is the threat of a beat down from the cops and prison guards."
I'm not a fool, I understand violence can be warranted. But it wasn't in this case. Nobody was being assaulted at the time. The original attack occurred 20 years before the incident.
And to the other posting above...if a sexual attack does not strike you as violent, you need to update your dictionary. - drdank, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought Oprah would surprise everybody in the audience with their own pedophile.
- Yggdrasil, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would also like to add the many of the sexual crimes against children are crimes of opportunity. The stories you hear hyped on the news about 50 year old men who stalk and rape children are not the norm. A large portion of these crimes are motivated by factors other than pedophilia.
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