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- T440, on 05/02/2009, -85/+260I guess I just don't get all the anti-Wal-Mart-ism. They're cheap, they have everything I need and now since the greeters don't say "Hello" to me anymore and with the inclusion of self checkout.....I don't have to talk to a single Wal-Mart employee the entire time I'm there.
If you're staying at a job that isn't paying you enough money, that would be your fault.....not the employer's. If the government is spending a bunch tax payer's money on these employees who are staying at these jobs that aren't paying them enough money, that would be the government's fault. Wal-Mart offers products that many people want and provide jobs that lots of people are seeking to get and they're doing it profitably. Out of these 3 groups, they're the only one that's being financially responsible.....what wrong with that? - inactive, on 05/03/2009, -33/+207WalMart hating is so pre-recession.
- mollysue111, on 05/03/2009, -14/+136This is obviously someone with no basic knowledge of fundamental economics.
The wages of an employee whether they be employed by Wal-Mart or any other employer is decided by the market demand for their labor. The reason their pay is so low is because there is a huge supply of people that are able to work there because it requires little to no skill, meaning practically any worker in the whole workforce of America would be able to work there.
The reason taxpayers money is pumped so profusely to these employees is because of America's welfare policy, something that was not instigated by Wal-Mart but by the people via the government. - Winkleman, on 05/02/2009, -46/+161i am proud to say, that i have no idea the last time i was in aWalmart.
- moo113, on 05/03/2009, -7/+111Why would you bring your car to Walmart in the first place?
- schwack, on 05/02/2009, -15/+110I thought FORA.tv covered brilliant thinking, not punch drunk college debaters at a hotel dinner.
- charman2k6, on 05/03/2009, -15/+93I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist; but Wal-Mart was behind 9-11.
- mysql101, on 05/03/2009, -5/+73Does it really matter? Most of the crap in Target also comes from China.
- WindWalker84, on 05/02/2009, -34/+101I gladly drive right past the Walmart, 15 extra minutes and go to a local Target. The difference is staggering.
- dpbBryan, on 05/03/2009, -6/+65There was a huge petition here to not have a Walmart built. All the people protested, and voted against it, and so forth. But, it was still built along with a huge shopping center. Now, all those people that were against it shop there because "It's convenient."
If you don't want Walmart around, don't shop there. Support local business. - sturmgiest, on 05/03/2009, -28/+84Hating Walmart is ridiculous. Watch the Penn and Teller ***** episode about it. If you don't like it, don't shop there. I will, and I will save money because of it.
- gilbes, on 05/03/2009, -17/+71This argument is incredibly ***** stupid.
Where are all these high paying no-skill retail jobs at other businesses that Wal-Mart is putting out of business.
It is easy for idiots to pick on Wal-Mart because they employ the most low wage earners and you can quote some seemingly alarming statistics.
That is to say, if Wal-Mart didn't exist, all their employees would still be earning the same low wages, it just wouldn't be at Wal-Mart. Then they could put more of their low earnings towards good at higher priced retailers, lowering their standard of living even more, because they can't get stuff at Wal-Mart. - inactive, on 05/03/2009, -15/+68But again...it is not wal-marts problem.....it is your problem.
- everlast88, on 05/03/2009, -9/+61I work at Wal-mart and I can say its not a great job, but its nowhere near horrible, I am in no way treated poorly. Raises are given at least on a yearly basis, you can get raises more if you give a ***** enough to try to move up in the company. You can't forget the 10% employee discount. In a year in a half I have had only problems with one manager and you know what i did, i transferred to a different wal-mart. Before you start your "wal-mart treats its employee's like crap" ***** maybe you should know what you're talking about, or actually be old enough to have a job.
- brucealmighty, on 05/02/2009, -33/+83It's not just about low wages. I took my car in for a new battery and before they finished it had nearly $1,000 worth of damage to the electrical components including the ECU (computer). I filed a claim but it was denied because there was "no conclusive proof that one of their employees did anything wrong". People in our justice system are tried, convicted and even executed on weaker circumstantial evidence than this but Wal-Mart makes their own rules and basically their policy is "the customer is always wrong". Beware.
- thekronz, on 05/03/2009, -12/+61Though honestly... if you are trying to support a family while relying solely on income from your Wal-Mart job, then you need to rethink some things.
- wakeupsticky, on 05/03/2009, -27/+73Hey, look at me! I'm trendy because I hate Wal-Mart.
- geoboy, on 05/03/2009, -5/+49People act like Wal-Mart's the only ***** business that pays low wages. I wonder what the median and average incomes of Target employees is? Oh, that's right. It's THE ***** SAME.
- richardstaboner, on 05/03/2009, -7/+48Ermm, Target is basically a Walmart wannabe with a better public image.... right?
- wakeupsticky, on 05/03/2009, -8/+48*cough* sorry, I'm choking on all the smug.
What I meant to say was, good for yooou! - egoideal, on 05/03/2009, -11/+49You mean people who actually care about those that are less fortunate then themselves? How do they live with themselves?
- JayG25, on 05/03/2009, -61/+99This is why I love liberals! A bunch of people in $1,000 dresses and tuxes and drinking $50 a bottle wine bitching about people only making $8 an hour.
- cam0man, on 05/03/2009, -14/+51I don't understand her point that if someone was a sales associate at walmart making 13k a year and had a family of 3, they'd be living in poverty.
Does she think that employers have some moral obligation to make sure that everyone has a high quality of life? Maybe those people shouldn't have had kids and instead learned a trade that paid a higher wage. Walmart doesn't owe anything to anyone - if people don't want to make 13k a year - don't work there. Nobody ever said that working minimum wage at WalMart was going to put you in the lap of luxury. The whole argument is pretty stupid - nobody's forced to work there, there's plenty of people with incomes of $0 that would probably love to make 13k a year. - wakeupsticky, on 05/03/2009, -9/+45I'm with you. Also, the Wal-Mart snubbers who head on over to Target... yes, it's a nicer shopping experience, but Target also gets a ton of their crap from China, they run smaller stores out of business, etc. It seems to me people who are against Wal-Mart should boycott all similar big-box stores.
- Brimmy, on 05/03/2009, -8/+43I was in one 3 hours ago
- tehstone, on 05/03/2009, -10/+45I greatly dislike Walmart, but not for the reasons listed here.
Mostly it is because of their abuse of the legal system. They force their way into a market where they are unwanted, temporarily lowering prices below the normal profit levels to gain loyal customers and to force out competitors and then raise the prices to a standard level. In some areas, where there are alternatives, this can't happen, but in the thousands of small towns that got their very own walmart, the local economy was destroyed.
Also, people think they're getting a good deal at Walmart because that perception is assumed when they walk in the door. but if you compare the quality and price of the items there to other stores, it's often not a better deal, especially when you know how to look for sales and coupons etc at other stores.
I only buy from walmart on the rare occasion that I cannot find something anywhere else. - RockChalkMatt, on 05/03/2009, -12/+45How much was Sarah Palin's debate-wear again???
- Batfishy, on 05/03/2009, -19/+52"If you're staying at a job that isn't paying you enough money, that would be your fault....."
The reasons people stay at there jobs are many, and often complicated, no-win situations. - klipz, on 05/03/2009, -5/+37http://www.megavideo.com/?v=BYH54E7F
Penn & Teller ***** Wal-Mart - BabaRamDass, on 05/03/2009, -6/+38That is, economically speaking, completely wrong.
Would you say Texas' economy suffers because "foreign" Arkansas rice is cheaper than "domestic" Texas rice? No, because the money Texans save buying Arkansas rice will allow them to spend more on businesses in Texas.
To say Texans should buy more expensive Texas rice because otherwise it destroys Texan jobs is asinine. Saying the same thing on an international, as opposed to an interstate, scale is just as asinine.
The point is buying the most competitively-priced product is good for everyone, not just those you buy it from. It doesn't hurt local economies, and in fact it helps promote economic growth... both on the local and non-local scale. Win-win. - Technopundit, on 05/03/2009, -1/+33What is this? Twitter?
- zxe420, on 05/03/2009, -5/+34Every dollar spent is a vote for the society you want. If you want to support big corporations, lower wages, lower quality goods, lower prices, and a ruling class that resides in Arkansas or China - then vote for Walmart by shopping there. If you want to support local businesses, higher wages, higher quality goods, and a ruling class that lives next door and shares their wealth with you - then you'll have to pay more for your goods and 'think' about where you need to go to buy them. Your local economy will only prosper if there is more money coming into it then going out. Every Wal-Mart dollar leaves your area. If you aren't exporting something, whether resources or manufactured products, then your area will have a net loss. And a sustained net loss leads to - that's right - a local recession. And widespread local recession leads to - that's right - national recession. I don't shop at Wal-Mart because I've seen what it can do to small towns, and I hate the moronic salespeople and customers. I would rather pay an extra 20 cents for a product and talk to someone who isn't semi-retarded. But I'm a liberal, socialist, trendy, smug, communist, conspiracy theorist, elitist, leftie... so don't listen to me.
- twoblink, on 05/03/2009, -23/+47I don't get socialists.. You want cheap goods, if the prices get too high, you scream that the EVIL corporations are trying to rape you. If the prices are low, they MUST be raping the employees. If you are trying to feed a family of 4, and the highest up the job foodchain is a "Walmart Sales Associate" then you need to NOT BLAME WALMART, but you need to REEXAMINE YOUR LIFE. You screwed up somewhere in life. She is right on one thing, there shouldn't be any federal assistance.. I have achieved nothing in life, so I want walmart and the obama to take care of me, that attitude is ridiculous.
As Jim Rohn's teacher said, it's not that Walmart pays low wages, their CEO probably makes a serious chunk of change.. It's that walmart pays YOU low wages. And that's because of you. Not because of walmart. If you will change, everything else will change.. and you are dealing with people who don't want to change. Simple as that.. - robertisaar, on 05/02/2009, -12/+35"Made in (insert any country other than USA)" is causing economic ***** here, yet people don't care because they're saving a few bucks. eventually when they lose their job because their company couldn't sell anything due to foreign competition, THATS when they realize they ***** themselves and everyone else over.
Sad. - BabaRamDass, on 05/03/2009, -12/+35I loathe Walmart. I go to Kroger and Target instead whenever possible.
But this has nothing to do with any perceived evilness. I just hate going into that ***** store and dealing with the ***** crowds. - liquisoft, on 05/03/2009, -14/+37Good thinking. I do what two magicians tell me to do, as well.
- scschwa, on 05/03/2009, -1/+22Thankfully, policies do not supersede laws; take em to small claims court (which is pretty cheap for the petitioner) and you will probably win as long as you come prepared with relevant documentation.
- everlast88, on 05/03/2009, -2/+23yes, you should consider killing your family, so you can spend your wal-mart money on yourself.
- NSResponder, on 05/03/2009, -6/+26"Walmart helps to keep inflation under control"
Actually, they do nothing of the kind, nor is it possible for them to do so. Inflation is what the Federal Reserve does. Rising prices are the result of inflation, not the inflation itself.
-jcr - balthisar, on 05/03/2009, -6/+26/I/ wouldn't take my car to Wal-Mart, but it's reasonable that something as damned bloody easy as a battery should be able to be put in without damaging anything.
- manzplan, on 05/02/2009, -45/+62WalMart or not.. the economy is suffering because so many people are buying "Made in China"
- IllBeBack, on 05/03/2009, -1/+18Surely you do not believe that someone is in any way technically competent simply by being able to create an account on Digg and then subsequently able to create a comment.
You have got to be joking, right? - everlast88, on 05/03/2009, -5/+21how is the massive mega store target any better than the massive mega store wal-mart?
- Spacejack, on 05/03/2009, -2/+17He does have a point. Kids are both expensive and voluntary. And we already socialize those expenses to some degree. Employers are about as responsible for your desire to have a large family as they are to your desire to have a motorcycle collection.
- brucealmighty, on 05/03/2009, -1/+16Free installation included, saves $10 or return hassles on the core charge, doesn't hurt if there's a later warranty claim and how hard can it be, right? Plus they assured me they would maintain power in the circuit during the switchover which keeps the ECU, radio, etc. from dropping all their settings....which of course they failed to do...both times. Hindsight...and all that.
- geoboy, on 05/03/2009, -7/+21Wal-Mart gets government subsidies that other retailers don't? That's news to me. It would have been nice if she had explained more about that.
If that's truly the case, then it sounds like a government problem to me, not a free-enterprise problem. - glacierfanclub, on 05/03/2009, -11/+25Why is that one guy wearing sunglasses indoors? He looks so smug. I just want to punch him.
- Hobobob, on 05/03/2009, -3/+17This is completely correct. Glad somebody pointed it out.
- rounderlee, on 05/03/2009, -10/+24This. Dumb. Bitch. You figure that she goes to Yale, one would expect some better argument points. I rarely comment but she is just ridiculous.
Why working at Wal-Mart impoverishes the people who work there and their communities?
Because Wal-Mart is the "Man" and wants to keep the working class poor. I would love her to pull statistics on every other major retailer along with their "annual median incomes" and the ratio of how many are having to take government assistance. I know people who work at Targét are living the high life.
I hope you guys are digging this to show how somebody is not smarter with a $200,000 degree. - fr0ng, on 05/03/2009, -6/+19How about this crazy idea. If you don't like WalMart, don't shop there. Don't work there. Don't do business with them period. The invisible hand takes care of the rest.
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