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- Hota, on 11/10/2009, -0/+33Washington State revenue must be entirely comprise of airplane exports because I'm pretty sure only one copy of any Microsoft product gets purchased in China.
- taibo, on 11/10/2009, -3/+27Breaking news: rich country buys lots of ***** from other rich country. Both profit.
Gov't plans to call this phenomenon 'trade'. - Skurt, on 11/10/2009, -13/+37Don't be an obtuse jackass
Not $1 a day, but making $74 an hour to push in a rivet so the next guy can fasten it for another $74 and hour and if there is a spill, have to wait for the shop foreman to come over at $125 an hour to concur that there is a mess and have him order the 'hazmat' team to be sure it isn't dangerous at $100 an hour before finally determining that it is just metal shavings and call over the $50 an hour janitor...
Quit paying the top execs billions in pay and bonus' and average the highest paid worker with the lowest paid worker like in Japan and things begin to turn around.
and you wonder why Detroit died... - ogre2112, on 11/10/2009, -1/+19"US EXPORTS TO CHINA"
/facepalm - inactive, on 11/10/2009, -10/+25Let's not forget all the manufacturing jobs that have been 'exported' to China!
Missouri has exported hundreds and hundreds of jobs to China, courtesy of Briggs and Stratton.
Briggs and Stratton sucks China's greasy *****. - taibo, on 11/10/2009, -0/+14Unfortunately, these cans are often stolen by the terrorists and used as IEDs.
- slightlyoffbeat, on 11/10/2009, -0/+13Woosh
- askantik, on 11/10/2009, -11/+24Yeah, it's all unions' fault! We in America should all work for $1/day like many people in China!
- brad3378, on 11/10/2009, -5/+18I'm calling ***** on those numbers.
Find me one internet link - Anywhere on the entire internet - from a trustworthy mainstream source of a guy making $74/hour installing rivets, a shop foreman making $125/hour, or a $50/hour janitor, etc. Engineers don't even make as much money as these examples do. I earned about $25 as an engineer in the Auto industry before I left.
It should be an easy challenge considering I'm giving you the entire internet to play with. - jrm125, on 11/10/2009, -0/+13Apparently Skurt exported his reading skills to China.
Thankfully it doesn't look like it'll help them too much. - MaxxusFlamus, on 11/10/2009, -4/+15the irony is that this "government trough" you speak of-
guess who is filling it? California. Guess who is eating from it. All the states that like to complain about people eating from the government trough. - rgranger, on 11/10/2009, -1/+10The politics is about as diverse as any state as well. A lot of conservatives love to complain about how "hippie" and full of nuts California is, but there's actually a large constituency of conservatives as well. Just try Orange County.
- boredco, on 11/10/2009, -0/+8It's a sad day when one of your primary exports is 'waste and scrap'. That's like me claiming my turds are manufactured goods.
- tusharpant, on 11/10/2009, -0/+7That's different
- monodelasno, on 11/10/2009, -4/+11And your typical ***** Digger is going to post a worthless statement based on 7335 observation.
- yed19, on 11/10/2009, -0/+6The numebers regarding Washington State do basically come from Produce, Seafood, Expedia, Amazon, and MS. The reason Illinois is up there is because Boeing is a Chicago Based company, not Washington State/Seattle. Boeing was (and still may be) the number 1 exporter (in $) in the US a while back and MS was #2. Boeing switched its headquarters to Illinois a while back for tax purporses. Its ironic because the one building in Chicago is about the only building in that whole state. No production is done there.
- Hota, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5The funny thing is that even if the infographic was "China exports to U.S." it would be a moronic comment.
- govsucks, on 11/10/2009, -4/+9I am proud to say that we export tens of thousands of dollars worth of goods to China every year. So much that the next version of our software will be available in Chinese at the request of our distributors in Honk Kong. Now if we only had a tax system as simple as theirs maybe we could make some money.
- AlienMushroom, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5$7.6B of toxic waste. I am so proud. /s
- Pinkertinkle, on 11/10/2009, -2/+7China would be happy to spend untold billions on American weapons.
- twohoundogs, on 11/10/2009, -5/+9"Find me one internet link - Anywhere on the entire internet - from a trustworthy mainstream source of a guy making $74/hour installing rivets,"
GM says its total hourly labor costs are now $69, including wages, pensions and health care for active workers, plus the pension and health care costs of more than 432,000 retirees and spouses. Toyota says its total costs are around $48.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2008-12-10-hou ... - brad3378, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4Careful Skurt!
Next they'll be sending your job to China. - Brassbud, on 11/10/2009, -4/+8It does suck. California is really nice and possibly the most diverse state in the nation (from a terrain, climate standpoint), yet I could never live there because of the politics. Shame.
- toastybeast, on 11/10/2009, -1/+5China's biggest export to the US: money.
- yed19, on 11/10/2009, -1/+5~85% of all new electronic devices have pirated old electronic components in them that were refurbished in Korea or China. Those electronic waste products are re-used and then resold back to our manufacturers. We thus pay Korea and China twice for the same electronic components. Genuis really...
- ThaATrain, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4No, the things you list are reasons why infographics usually fail
- allisonV12, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4ha ha...most brutal observation
- zacharytelschow, on 11/10/2009, -14/+17It couldn't be high taxes and union wages that pushed jobs to China. No way! It was evil, greedy corporations out to make a *gasp* profit! Those greedy bastards...
- Brooks007, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3Actually the major computer companies do get there stuff made in china... not some other Asian country.
- brad3378, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3Please forgive my ignorance, but what is the 7335 reference about?
- theseventhdawn, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4@Brassbud ... yeah fantastic whoop-ass; $5 tents blown by $5 mill worth missles and everyone in US filing for bankruptcy ... whop-ass ... not to mention all the dead bodies still coming back ... whop-ass!
- Dou6, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3Im guessing Texas is computer equipment?
- Elranzer, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3Most computer parts are made in China, more specifically Taiwan.
Even beloved Apple products are manufactured by Asus and Foxconn, two Taiwanese companies. - inactive, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4debt
- vinod1978, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3The real problem is that California bases every damn decision on ballot initiatives. Of course if you ask them "hey wouldn't you like free [fill in the blank]?" people will vote for it, but when it comes time to pay for it either by increasing taxes or by other means they vote against it - each and every time. This is why we elect officials because most people want something for nothing, we need to pay for each social program we have - unfortunately California doesn't understand this.
- brad3378, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3@twohoundogs
This is the same game that bean counting accountants and politicians play.
You're comparing the cost of a worker against the pay of a worker. Similarly, if I wanted to argue that US soldiers were underpaid, I would argue that the average soldier only earns $15,600 per year. On the other hand, if I was a bean counter arguing that we spend too much money on soldiers, I would divide the 2009 defense budget of $518.3 billion by the number of troops (3,385,400) to come up with a cost of $153,000 per year per soldier.
If you're going to cite a source, please have the courtesy to give the full context.
From your own link:
"Hourly wages for UAW workers at GM factories are about equal to those paid by Toyota Motor at its older U.S. factories, according to the companies. GM says the average UAW laborer makes $29.78 per hour, while Toyota says it pays about $30 per hour. But the unionized factories have far higher benefit costs." - mrgreenjeans, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2Way to take it in stride. Nothing shows you're new to the internet like raging about what some douches have to say about you.
This is a compliment. I am not being sarcastic. - diggbigwig, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2Mix 2 parts ignorance with 1 part misguided hatred and you get 1 serving of Digg Comment.
- _skin_, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2Export ≠ Import
- Skurt, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2Thanks, life's too short to worry.
- BESTenemy, on 11/10/2009, -1/+3We may joke about Microsoft, but with Google, all jokes aside - some serious money is made selling surveillance technology to the Chinese government. The Chinese are kindly "testing" it for us.
- Brooks007, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2yes and food
- stonebear, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2I believe you meant to say "capitalist sympathizers."
- charlietuna, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1Millions of dollars. Heh, as if that's a lot of money. One apartment in Manhattan is worth millions of dollars.
- Elranzer, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1"It was evil, greedy corporations out to make a *gasp* profit! Those greedy bastards..."
Actually, it was. If it means they'll make $86 million a year instead of $85 million, they'll fire all of their American workers right before Christmas. - CaffinatedOne, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1I don't think that it's so much that they're spending themselves into disaster, it's that the system there has rendered the state ungovernable. A large portion of spending is mandated, it requires an unworkable supermajority to raise taxes, and property tax valuations are stuck in the 70's. This is all due to California's proposition system.
The normal representative democratic system would have a majorty party, or coalition which could enact changes as needed to address issues, implement new programs, and the like. If what they were doing was unpopular, they'd pay at the ballot box ultimately. What's happened here is that the straightjacket that the propositions have put into place has effectively prevented the legislature from being able to make significant changes without an exceedingly unlikely supermajority. It's natural that the minority party be against the actions of the majority party, but the supermajority rule gives them an effective veto over majority action. The minority doesn't pay a price for this since it's really their job to some extent, and the majority party has a built in excuse for not doing anything ("We tried, but they stopped us"). Thus we end up with institutional gridlock. If the state weren't facing some rather significant problems, it likely wouldn't matter much, but that's certainly not the case currently.
...and yes, this is a microcosm of what we're seeing at the national level with the abuse of the fillibuster in the Senate. Let the majority party act (within constitutional bounds, of course) and hold them accountable for what they do/don't do. - 029A, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1I wonder if NY and IL are overrepresented due to their stock exchanges.
- gizram84, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1@rgranger
Individual political preference may be diverse, but the way the state runs itself has been atrocious for decades. I actually agree, I would never move there simply because of their state politics. - Elranzer, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1It looked like China was the biggest customer by far... followed by Switzerland of all places.
- yed19, on 11/11/2009, -0/+1They don't tell them what they are doing. They say they are new parts. Older components have a lower life and break sooner than new ones. Thus the overall electronic devise will break sooner and manufacturers don't want that. Some don't care and some do. But I wouldn't want to be in a plane or car that is using refurbished electronics.
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