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- unii, on 01/29/2008, -9/+116Welcome to the beginning of the great fall.....
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/getIssueImage?issue ...
Look who is on the cover of this week's ethanol Producer Magazine and the greedy execs standing by as he signs American's money away ...
Absolutely disgusting ...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/05032 ...
From the scientist....
Look at the production #'s :
http://www.biofuelsjournal.com/articles/Annual_and ...
Taking money from lots of people to line the pockets of a few...
Digg this up people. So everyone knows why chicken and beef are soo expensive in months to come and so people don't accept the lies that will be told to them...
Also note how Ben Bernanke is cutting rates to the ground further spurring along inflation. Read up people... It is important you know why things are the way they are... - smacksaw, on 01/29/2008, -0/+70A better (and far more in-depth) article for those who wish to read further:
http://digg.com/business_finance/The_Economist_The ...
Not all doom and gloom.
About Tyson - IMO one of the biggest things we need to get Bush to do is STOP MAKING ETHANOL. That's wasteful. I don't like Fidel Castro, but he's right. Using food for fuel is a travesty. We should use food for feeding ourselves and the byproducts for farming and then fuel.
Besides, making ethanol instead of biodiesel is just foolish. We can't get clean diesels fast enough in this country. They're coming in 2008 and 2009, but we need them now. We need more diesel refining capacity and we need to mix remnant food oil with it. Everyone wins. - ukfoole, on 01/29/2008, -5/+52 $34 million... down from $57 million.
I know how to raise profits. Oursource head management to India!
Hrm.. the CEO alone raked in $10 Million in 2005 and had $41 million in stock at the time. It is a publicly traded company with a sort of private owning CEO at the helm. Wow, plus 1/2 mil in perks and another 1/2 mil to cover TAXES?!?! and personal aircraft use. Can't find anything for more recent years, though I doubt it has changed.
Yeah, "Operating cost increases". ie. "Executive Compensation". You cut about 5 peoples pay and those profits would be back in tip-top form. - baalzebub, on 01/29/2008, -2/+37when i was driving 18 wheelers i hauled Chicken regularly from Arcadia Louisiana to California if you knew what the inside of those meat processing houses looked and smelled like you would start raising your own chickens in your back yard and never touch chicken ever again in your local grocery store...
- inactive, on 01/29/2008, -18/+52wages going down, prices going up, good job mr bush!
- CheapDigWannbe, on 01/29/2008, -0/+33In my job at a "neighborhood grocery store" every Wednesday we do price changes, and the last month has been just horrible. There are on average four times more products going up in price than usual, and most of them are increasing the price from 10-20%. Other product keep the price but make a bit smaller packages with less of the actual product. It's so scary to see that as you realize how every single individual is soon gonna spend 15 or so % more while shopping for food alone.
- sockpuppets, on 01/29/2008, -7/+37I was going to submit this but I'm chicken.
- AnarkeIncarnate, on 01/29/2008, -3/+33That is because you and everybody else in this dumb nation thinks ethanol=corn. They sell it on the news as "Ethanol, a fuel alternative made from corn" but it is not. You can make ethanol from any organic materials that contains enough sugars. We can use rotting foods. We can use grasses that grow much better than corn but are too hard to extract sugar from for table sugar. We can use so much of our waste products for fuel it is sickening that we are instead spending time and energy towards a fuel source like ethanol from corn.
- octophobic, on 01/29/2008, -0/+24Now the market favors the peanut butter heavy investor! I've got 15 jars or so in the basement.
- wildfire, on 01/29/2008, -12/+36Kill two birds with one stone:
go eat the homeless. - CaptainNoPants, on 01/29/2008, -5/+28The only product of theirs I eat is the buffalo wings, and that's only when I'm desperate.
"Do you expect me to lower chicken prices?" "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die...or lower chicken prices, whatever." - Navicerts, on 01/29/2008, -0/+21I work for a breeder company and let me tell you, you DO eat Tyson and don't know it. There are only 4 or 5 main producers of parent stock (Tyson is one of them). These 4 companies send 1 day old chicks out to smaller companies that don't have their own breeding facility. Once they get these 1 day old chicks they grow them for a few generations and then buy a new set (because they now have a bunch of retard inbred chickens.
Purdue, Tyson, Cobb, Hubbard, Avigen - loquax, on 01/29/2008, -2/+23While Tyson is at it, how about cracking down on illegal aliens in their plants and their "associate" sites? The main reason both Clinton and Bush never really cracked down on illegal aliens has everything to do with their association with large factory farms and particularly poultry farms.
- staxofmax, on 01/29/2008, -0/+20Given the data, it's hard to see government sponsored ethanol production as anything more than a corn subsidy in the guise of "green" and "oil independence". Absolutely shameful. Switchgrass FTW!!!
- SuperVepr308, on 01/29/2008, -12/+30Enjoy all that ***** ethanol you "progressives" are wailing for. With the money you save you can buy $25 chicken breasts and $40 ears of edible corn. Ethanol requires too many resources and land with way too low a yield. Just ask a farmer *gasp! those know-nothings!?!?!*
- davewelsh79, on 01/29/2008, -8/+24That disgusting pimple ad on this page is making me think about never coming back to Digg.
- SouthsideIrish, on 01/29/2008, -1/+17Hello! Wrong! The government is commanding ethanol production with subsidies. I have farmers in my family and they are having problems because of feed prices. They milk cows, and the corn prices are going up because the grain farmers are getting paid more when it is used for ethanol. This is over a 30 year old technology and it should not get subsidies.
Watch the government get pissed and start suing as beef, chicken, chocalate, dairy and anything that uses corn goes up in price. Oh, that's right, Canada and the US are already suing chocolate manufacturers for raising prices. - rune420, on 01/29/2008, -3/+19No he's right, as soon as they raise prices, you're going to buy the kinds of food that gives the most kcal/$, which is primarily snacks and junk food. This is why poor people in america are more likely to be fat.
- nbcaffeine, on 01/29/2008, -4/+20murder tastes delicious
- spyd3rweb, on 01/29/2008, -0/+15Funny I quit buying their products because they jacked the price up already. You saying they're going to raise the prices more?
- pudgyv, on 01/29/2008, -1/+15And that is why you should care about the price of oil.
- Proctor, on 01/29/2008, -3/+17Tyson sucks anyways.
- Billistic, on 01/29/2008, -23/+37Anyone read John Titor? One of the things he wrote was "My dad knew things were bad when it cost 10 dollars for a hamburger"
People say John Titor is total *****, but i find it fun to sort of look for signs... - inactive, on 01/29/2008, -0/+14Honestly, I'm too busy playing WoW to care about eating.
- inactive, on 01/29/2008, -2/+15dang, who will I buy ***** chicken products from now?
- inactive, on 01/29/2008, -4/+17Get out of here with your reasonable logic and thinking! A man from the future is much more realistic than common inflation!
- engwar, on 01/29/2008, -2/+15May I be the first to say it?
Digg has ads?
//Adblock yay! - chix0r, on 01/29/2008, -2/+15I agree, though some vegetarian food is overpriced.
- holzp, on 01/29/2008, -0/+12congressional salary should be the mean American wage the previous year. Pass that as law and everything else will follow.
- jjmckay, on 01/29/2008, -4/+16I'm an environmentalist and concerned about climate change but I agree also that biofuels are a bad idea. Brazil just announced there was a dramatic rise in deforestation due to the inflated selling prices of agricultural products (soybeans and i forget what else). This isn't about global warming exactly, it's about corporate welfare for farmers (inflated prices) and government mandates from politicians who want to sound green. The current government biofuel programs are a scam, yes, but global warming has some good research behind it.
As bad as oil is, it's far better to burn that than turn the surface of the planet into a giant biofuel farm and starve us all. - bjornski, on 01/29/2008, -1/+12Now that's a rather modest proposal.....
- darkstar949, on 01/29/2008, -1/+12Well they are right, you still need to get your protein from somewhere. The catch-22 is when the prices of meat are high most people start to turn to beans and less meat as the place to get their protein. So with these moves I wouldn't be surprised if their sales in terms of units start to go down even if there sales in terms of dollars stay about the same.
- ukfoole, on 01/29/2008, -3/+13Dear Democrat Congress,
PLZ quit giving yourself huge raises before pushing for a small minimum wage increase. Also, all those huge corporate tax cuts you guys toss at megacorps, sports franchises, and executives need to stop. The Great Compromise? This is not. It isn't like these executives pay their own taxes anyhow. Take Tyson Food's CEO here for instance. Tyson Foods paid his taxes for the compensation received. That means, they passed the buck on paying the CEO's taxes onto the consumer, which necessitates increasing minumum wage to pay these CEOs.
KTHXBYE (A US Taxpayer for 6 years) - BDOUG, on 01/29/2008, -4/+14Too many people, not enough resources. This is the taproot of all the world's human problems. It's a shame the zero population growth idea isn't at the very top of the going green movement. How's that mission to Mars program coming along again? Maybe a few smart people getting off this rock can reboot this humanity thing someplace else (and use better sense).
- zentehflash, on 01/29/2008, -14/+24Go Veg!
"Despite concerns about the economy, people have to eat, and they will continue to eat protein."
Turns out we don't need Tyson for that. - i3eeker, on 01/29/2008, -0/+9That's why I shop at Aldi's.
- animalwheeler, on 01/29/2008, -0/+9Murder?
Do we eat other people??? oh you mean animals dying.
Sorry you feel that all animals are cuddly and snuggly and should be left to alone. But the rest of the world operates in a Food Chain. I hope you are stopping the rest of the carnivores of the world from murdering animals as well. You are aren't you? Do not want those lions to eat any wildebeasts. Or crocodiles, tigers, oh, and great white sharks (among many others). If we want to rid the world of "murder" lets not be selective.
I guess these teeth that I have, that support the tearing, cutting, and chewing of meat (along with the lack of proper bacteria in the gut, to digest plants fully) mean nothing then? - Kevin108, on 01/29/2008, -1/+10It TAKES 1.3 gallons of oil to MAKE 1 gallon of ethanol. That's like spending $1.30 to buy a $1 bill. Also ethanol only has 66% of the energy of gasoline. If your car gets 30 mpg with gasoline, you'll drop to 28.98 mpg using a 10% ethanol blend. That doesn't seem like a lot, but add that up over the course of a whole tank and you lose one extra trip to work. Add it up over the course of a year of driving and you've lost an entire fill-up!
We are being scammed, plain and simple. Wasting energy is not going to save the environment or our economy. - bjornski, on 01/29/2008, -0/+8"And the sandwich-heavy portfolio comes out ahead!"
- DrMonkeyLove, on 01/29/2008, -5/+13Anyone who knows what inflation is could predict that. They used to cost 50 cents.
- holzp, on 01/29/2008, -0/+8Shhhh...he'll bite your ear off!
- mckinnej, on 01/29/2008, -1/+9You are 100% correct. I used work on the maggot wagons. (The ones that haul the by-products.) The farms are about as dirty. Garbage trucks are cleaner.
- JigoroKano, on 01/29/2008, -0/+8The market? The market is profiting of off subsidies. There is no invisible hand guiding this. The hand is very visible.
- br0ck, on 01/29/2008, -1/+9Ethanol does not have to negatively impact food production. Corn-based ethanol is not good at all since it's inefficient and cuts into food production, but cellulose sourced ethanol production is now picking up steam and now it's just a question of which companies will ramp up and get to full production fastest.
"Cellulosic ethanol, in theory, is a much better bet. Most of the plant species suitable for producing this kind of ethanol -like switchgrass, a fast- growing plant found throughout the Great Plains, and farmed poplar trees aren't food crops. And according to a joint study by the US Departments of Agriculture and Energy, we can sustainably grow more than 1 billion tons of such biomass on available farmland, using minimal fertilizer. In fact, about two-thirds of what we throw into our landfills today contains cellulose and thus potential fuel. Better still: Cellulosic ethanol yields roughly 80 percent more energy than is required to grow and convert it." From: http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/magazine/ ...
That's 76 gallons per ton according to http://bioenergy.ornl.gov/papers/misc/switgrs.html so that 1 billion tons of biomass would produce 76 billion gallons of ethanol that could cheaply be produced each year from non-food crops. The US uses only 400 million gallons of gas each year. That's 190 times more fuel than we need!
Farmland will not be negatively impacted. According to the .gov link above, switchgrass produces 1,150 gallons per acre (after correcting for fuel used to produce and convert), so 347,000 acres would be needed to provide the 400 million gallons of fuel for the US. The USA has 400,000,000 acres of cropland, so converting to switchgrass would only require a tiny portion of the available arable land to be used. Also, it grows fine in poor soil, so it wouldn't crowd out the more valuable food crop soil. - LordRedSnake, on 01/29/2008, -0/+8Ethanol is fine as an energy source... just not when it's produced from inefficient sources like corn. The corn farmers in America have lobbied for subsidies and that's why we're talking about it. I've been feeling the pain of expensive protein for over a year now because of my tax dollars going to corn farmers and making everyone else get in on the action. I eat 300g+ of protein a day so I'm very conscious of these price increases. Staples of my diet have gone up 60% in the last 2 years.
Corn farmers don't want to learn how to grow switchgrass so here the rest of us are getting screwed. This is why the government should stay out of the economy. - unclerichard, on 01/29/2008, -0/+7I hope competition will bite them back in the ass.
- londubh, on 01/29/2008, -1/+8I think corporate America has solved the obesity epidemic. Make it too expensive to eat. Instead of feeding us all that sweet sweet High Fructose Corn Syrup they'll turn it into ethanol for our SUVs.
- bjornski, on 01/29/2008, -0/+7No, we'll be buying CHEAPER food, which will be filled with less nutritious, more fattening ingredients than even this Tyson stuff is.
- phutcherso, on 01/29/2008, -0/+7I've always been interested to know if you are allergic to beans and soy how going Vegetarian is possible. I can eat small amounts of soy but no beans. What are the alternatives to meat protein aside from beans?
- TheAkolyte, on 01/29/2008, -4/+11It's not too unlikely to predict ...
Recessions and depressions are quite normal -
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