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- edstate, on 08/12/2008, -5/+39Ebay is awesome... but it's also a cesspool. They really should've been playing benevolent dictator for YEARS now, helping stamp out the scams and the thieves that thrive there.
Fact is, if you do get truly ripped-off (I haven't, but friends have) Ebay does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to help. Or even correct the problem. And I'm not talking about a "Brand New PS3 BOX!"...
I guess I'm secretly rooting for Tiffany. - inactive, on 08/12/2008, -0/+32Basicaly, avoid Ebay for any high brand item. I bought sennheiser in-ear earphones earlier this year and just by the sound you could tell they were NOT genuine sennheiser. Not to mention they break down after just a few months.
- ironeus, on 08/12/2008, -2/+31I'm not surprised the court ruled the way they did. It's near impossible for eBay to police the site, for human approval of each item posted the site would be crawwwling.
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -1/+26So far have had positive experiences on ebay, but a lot of my friends have been scammed.
- sbcea, on 08/12/2008, -2/+21Ebay should not (and cannot) be held responsible for policing every listing. It's an impossible request. As with any auction in any forum, the rule of thumb has always been (and will always be) caveat emptor. Let the buyer beware. If something looks too good to be true, it probably is. I've bought and sold a lot on ebay in my life and never had a problem. Even with some big ticket items. The trick is to research the seller. What's their feedback? Do they own a store? How much have they sold on eBay? The warning signs are there if anyone cares to look.
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -0/+17Someone post that demotivator of the gameboy in the PSP box. "ebay - its cheaper for a reason"
- BeShirtHappy, on 08/12/2008, -1/+15No bad experiences personally with Ebay but wouldn't buy any high-priced items from there.
- Kent4jmj, on 08/12/2008, -1/+14Ripoffs are always an injustice but the move to regulate is a knee jerk reaction only adds hidden costs. Wouldn't it be better to learn how to do business with a sharper "eye" and learn how to protect yourself from being scammed?
Why should ebay be forced to be Tiffany's police man? Unless of course Tiffany's wants to pay ebay for those services. - BXRWXR, on 08/12/2008, -1/+13Caveat emptor.
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -0/+11I am very careful about doing business with ebay I think they are sketchy
- AussieCynic, on 08/12/2008, -0/+9If you are buying a tiffany something or other for $20.... then use your brain it is prbably not the real deal... and for anyone who still they are getting a bargain... I have a rolex for $40 ....
- darkchild82, on 08/12/2008, -1/+9It is good that Tiffany is appealing this case.
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -0/+8What the hell is a soggy biscuit?
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -2/+10Ebay Blows ASS!!!!
- claybird, on 08/12/2008, -0/+7http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/ebay-psp-demot ...
- Beatmiser, on 08/13/2008, -0/+7Here I came in prepared to cheer on an 80's icon.
/thinks we're alone now. - sockpuppets, on 08/13/2008, -1/+7Two months ago I bought a $200 gift card from a seller that had "$2000 buyer protection" on the auction. It turned out to be purchased on a stolen credit card so I issued a paypal dispute within 24 hours.
I was denied- turns out eBay considers gift cards "intangible items" so it wasn't covered. Well then why the ***** was the $2000 protection advertised on the auction? Kiss my $200 goodbye.
***** eBay, ***** paypal. ***** anything they own. - Cancerkitty, on 08/12/2008, -0/+5100% agreed. eBay is a great place to get books and CDs, not so much for big tickets.
- zadadka, on 08/12/2008, -0/+5Same here.
Regarding high value stuff, I bought DS Lites for my boys last Xmas, and a Wii in June, but those were from high volume and 95%+ sellers with shops.... - AmyVernon, on 08/12/2008, -0/+4exactly. I buy books and some toys on eBay, but would never buy a high-priced item from someone I didn't know the background of...
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -0/+4Deep down, the US, with its space, its technological refinement, its bluff good conscience, even in those spaces which it opens up for simulation, is the only remaining primitive society.
-Jean Baudrillard - inactive, on 08/12/2008, -0/+3Now I can unload all those Tiffany knock offs I have in the basement...
- JerichoSam, on 08/12/2008, -0/+3Excellent advice. It can be hard to resist (what looks like) a great bargain, but there can be risk involved.
- larissa13, on 08/13/2008, -0/+3While there are some cool things about Ebay its the worst place to buy anything that is of value. If youre buying a shirt for two bucks and you lose it, so what. If youre buying something for a hundred bucks and its really a fake or a piece of crap, kiss that hundred bucks goodbye. No one at Ebay or PayPal is really there to protect you, the buyer. The seller is protected~theyre the ones paying the fee to list items for sale. Sometimes its just worth paying the full price for the real thing, in good condition the first time around and you cna change your mind, return it and theres not drama!
- mrMunchies, on 08/12/2008, -3/+6I don't know what the ***** fuss is a-*****-bout, I have no ***** problems with ***** Ebay...*****
- byronne, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2Why is Tiffany so pissed? She only had a couple of hits, and those were covers anyway.
- Alex2, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2Funny that they used the 'Flea market vendor is responsible' analogy.
Everyone knows that a lot of the stuff at flea markets is stolen. - DarkJesus, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2Why do people digg stories with "2" at the end of the url?
http://digg.com/business_finance/Tiffany_appeals_r ... - stephhicks68, on 08/12/2008, -0/+2If it seems too good to be true... it probably is!!
- jynweythek, on 09/17/2008, -0/+2It isn't too hard to make safe purchases on ebay if you research the seller and buy only if they have a large sale history with lots of positive feedback.
- aaroh, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2that's b.s
if a seller writes something like " if you pay by paypal there is a charge of $..... ," on their auction description ebay will remove the auction listing within days
how fast an auction listing gets removed is determined by how much the policy violation affects ebay's bottom line. - sockpuppets, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2Tiffany roll?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0CF-mdfrk0 - locojones, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2Except it's not caveat emptor because this has nothing to do with the buyer's. Ebay is profiting from a knowing dilution of another's trademark, and there is a solid argument for placing a legal obligation on Ebay to clamp down on the rampant trafficking of counterfeit items. Ebay clearly can't say that it is impossible to police its transactions because that's exactly what it's doing overseas in countries where it has been ordered to do exactly that. When nearly 80% of Tiffany items for sale at any given time are counterfeit, it simply doesn't make sense for Ebay to rely on a defense of "Well we didn't know it was going on."
- WilliamAdama, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2Ebay isn't that bad, I received a counterfeit Battlestar Galctica poster once. It was supposed to be a huge official vinyl poster but turns out it was some home brew reprint... anyways I went on my paypal, filed a dispute, and got my money back.
Ebay has reporting functions that help users to report counterfeiting or suspected counterfeits so idk what tiffany is bitching about. If you do your homework before you bid then there shouldn't be any problems.. it's as simple as an auction saying "Authentic" and if turns out it's not then you get your money back, also as simple as not buying from people that don't accept paypal and offer buyer/seller protection.
Tiffany is just trying to leech money because no one wants to buy their overpriced *****, they've discovered that many of us are perfectly happy without spending $100k on a wedding ring. - NathanielJ, on 08/13/2008, -0/+2The sellers aren't protected either anymore now that sellers can't even do as much as leave negative feedback. I put an expensive item up for sale because I'm moving and need to get rid of some things. After the item sells, I get an e-mail back from the buyer saying "sorry i bought a different item instead i can't pay". I sent out a second-chance offer, but the second highest bidder just never replied. So I'm out my listing fees and (much more importantly) a week of selling time.
And I can't even leave negative feedback on the wanker. eBay is a cesspool all-around nowadays. - 11oops, on 08/14/2008, -0/+1Do a chargeback with your credit card company. Buyers have two layers of protection, and there's no reason you should ever lose a penny.
- locojones, on 08/14/2008, -0/+1If the newspaper was aware, as here, that 80%+ of its listings every day were counterfeit, and if, as here, if had been sued in various states or counties where it is distributed and has put in place surveillance mechanisms in those areas and still chose to profit from counterfeit listings then yes, it should be liable.
- Iztikeit, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1No >_> jesus that was the worst piece of English I've ever written.
- inactive, on 08/12/2008, -3/+4things like laptops and game systems that are over $100 should not be bought from ebay so it's a buyer beware situation.
But the amount of counterfeit stuff on ebay is insane, and almost 99% of the time i can never buy anything by bidding, i only do buy it now - sinembarg0, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1They could police only more expensive items, like with an MSRP over a certain value.
- Iztikeit, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1I meant lamps >_> and I never said I sold anything Tiffany related.
- briankoenig03, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1Tiffany purses? Man, you were selling fakes.
- MasterThief117, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1My aunt works for the main Tiffany's in Manhattan and my uncle basically said that one, eBay has little control what is sold on their site when it comes to counterfeit jewelry, two, it should be the buyer that should be looking out for the fakes (he can tell the fake stuff on eBay by looking at the jewelry box, that and the huge price difference makes it obvious), and three, if people are so inclined to buy the bogus stuff, then so be it.
eBay is just the middle man. They should not get the blame. - yourmanstan, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1"The law is clear," he wrote. "It is the trademark owner's burden to police its mark."
what the hell else do they expect? their appeal will, and should, get dismissed - Br3ach, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1Ebay much like the Internet itself is a double edge sword.
I can see that they dont want their brand tarnished, but why Tiffany's has a beef is odd, given anyone going on eBay to get jewelery probably cant pay for the real article anyway. What do they lose besides a sale the never had? - Kzoo, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1"Tiffany is just trying to leech money because no one wants to buy their overpriced *****, they've discovered that many of us are perfectly happy without spending $100k on a wedding ring."
I wouldn't be surprised if this is a factor. Certain $5k bracelets made of chainmail can be made -better quality- by a hobbyist with $20-$40 worth of silver rings in a few hours. Even if said hobbyist charges $100/hour for his time (which has been recommended to some by jewelers O_O) it still comes out to be maybe $500 (did I mention with -much- higher quality?). - eyemandy, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1Still wrong, dear. Tiffany lamps is a particular style of lamp with a stained glass design. They have nothing to do with Tiffany. Tiffany & Co. is a jeweler and they also sell some home decor. Selling fake Coach bags is what ruined the Coach name. It is one of the most widely counterfeited brands, like many other designers who rely heavily on logos and patterns.
- Eugenis, on 01/13/2009, -0/+1Top 10 of fresh news about Tiffany jewelry: http://jewelry-newsline.com/tiffany.html
- Stereoguy121, on 08/13/2008, -1/+2I have been on eBay for over 3 years. In all that time I have bid on no less than 200 items. How many items have been fake or in really bad condition? None! Why? Because I NEVER win a bid, I've even gone to stupid lengths to make sure I have an outrageous bid but I have never actually gotten anything from the site. I think they don't even really exist after all! I'll just go to Best Buy or Chapters!
- charm803, on 08/13/2008, -0/+1I would think that a company like Tiffany's would hire someone to police counterfeit items regarding the Tiffany brand if they wanted to protect it.
Wouldn't it make more sense to have someone from Tiffany's monitor it and then have direct contact with eBay? -
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