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- Charlotte_Web, on 10/19/2007, -0/+32How did Assistant Crack Whore not make that list?
- calamnet, on 10/19/2007, -1/+24container { margin: 0 10px; } Christ!
- gibsonic, on 10/19/2007, -1/+17Windows 3.1 tester. Prospects aren't too good from here on out.
- Mockylock, on 10/19/2007, -2/+17- Computer Programmers, because of outsourcing.
- Journalists, because of online media.
- Radio Announcers, because of online and satellite radio
- Travel Agents, because of online ticket booking
- Federal Employees, because of contracted companies increasing. - inactive, on 10/18/2007, -1/+12Don't worry, bloggers will make sure that never happens.
- alexanEmpire, on 10/18/2007, -1/+12They forgot about these in the worst jobs of the 21st century list: Janitor, ***** shoveller, can collector, subway worker, cell phone salesman, office drone, and everyone's favorite....the jizz mop.
- freezerburn666, on 10/19/2007, -0/+11wheres the left margin grrr
- VeniceCA, on 10/18/2007, -3/+14Interesting to see journalists on that list. I think the demand for independent journalists with good reporting and writing skills will continue to grow, especially for niche markets.
- obelisky, on 10/19/2007, -0/+10go back to your bunker
- drmangrum, on 10/19/2007, -0/+10I love how not long ago programming was one of the best and most promising career to have for the next decade and this list says the contrary.
- inactive, on 10/18/2007, -3/+12Average salary for Federal gov't jobs is $62,000? That's a lot!
- somespecial, on 10/18/2007, -4/+13That list is so wrong
- c0ldfusi0n, on 10/18/2007, -0/+8Forbes Journalists, because you can summarize their article in one sentence.
- Butros, on 10/19/2007, -0/+8My crystal ball tells me you are a programmer
- drimo, on 10/20/2007, -1/+7You think teachers only work 3/4 of the year? You apparently don't know many teachers, but they do not take 1/4 of the year "off" because they are required to build their year's entire lesson plan before the school year starts! Plus, they spend a lot of time in the evenings grading papers, tests, homework, or revising lesson plans.
- Navicerts, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5FTA: Programming jobs will increase 2% despite outsourcing by 2014.
Data systems in general are going to become more complex by 2014, too complex. It seems like everywhere i apply or work they are in need of some sort of technological overhaul because of poor system design, or out of date technology. Theres a place near where i live that is constantly hiring cobol programmers, they even offer to train 365 days a year, yet they find no one. - adml_shake, on 10/18/2007, -0/+5It's because they told so many HS and College kids that back in the early days that the market is now flooded with programmers.
- speedk0re, on 10/19/2007, -1/+6that's because the creator of this list is a (pardon the french) ***** idiot. Saying "Computer programmers" is an endangered job is just showing your ignorance to the field.
- pinguwin, on 10/19/2007, -0/+4While not entirely familiar with your exact situation, I would say be careful about being complacent. Anyone can be replaced and that comes from someone who has been involved in programming/software engineering almost as long as you've been alive. Somehow you being there for at most a year and 'built large parts of our product' seem at odds unless it is a small project, in which case there is a very good chance that you can be replaced with minor disruption. If you, with little experience can do it in a year, it should be possible to find someone who has more experience that can do it in eight months. I'm going to repeat this again: Everyone can be replaced.
- Julolidine, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4Shucks, I was hoping to see hanging out on digg all day commenting to the faceless internet masses as a job for the 21st century.
- YouRookies, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4There's more to CS than programming. You also have the path to become a Systems, Database, and Network Admin.
- d33money, on 10/18/2007, -0/+4Not when you live in the DC metro area
- moman, on 10/19/2007, -3/+7"By 2014, federal government jobs--excluding the Postal Service-- will only have increased by about 1.6% above 2004 levels due to the transfer of some jobs to state and local governments and the increased use of private contracting companies. Don't believe it? A report compiled by a House of Representatives panel earlier this year found that government spending on contracts rose by 103% between 2000 and 2005."
Great so in a few years alot of our government will literally be run by private companies. Does this scare this ***** out of anyone else? - Alexandru25, on 10/18/2007, -0/+3***** cell phone salesmen.
- codehkr77, on 10/18/2007, -3/+6Why such a sore looser? Did you try to get a CS degree and you found out you were too stupid for it?
- b0neman, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3Thank god my job as Illegal Alien Slaughterhouse Steam Cleaner wasn't on that list! Things are finally looking up for me.
- Hoogs, on 10/18/2007, -0/+3So basically, the Internet is taking over.
- codehkr77, on 10/19/2007, -0/+3Government employees don't do *****, thats why they bring in the contractors
- Alexandru25, on 10/18/2007, -1/+4Effect
- smookyfufu, on 10/19/2007, -4/+6You poor poor computer nerds. Soon your CS degrees will be as worthless as every degree in Liberal Arts.
- kaelyiesta, on 10/19/2007, -1/+3I think the worst problem with the industry is that there is a demand for insanely specialized talent. Excluding your comment about offering training, most companies don't invest in these general knowledge programmers. I've yet to find a serious job that doesn't look for about a dozen languages, and specific knowledge of almost proprietary information on things no one coming out of school would be well versed in. It's a huge risk for the business to spend the effort in training so I understand the hesitation. Unfortunately, that still leaves a lot of programmers, wasting their untaped talent.
Using programmers from india, who have had that specialized specific training, makes much more sense. That's the problem americans face. We are given the most watered down general education possible. Internships help, and so does remaining in school for post grad work.
That at least is my take on the problem we face. - bahamutxd, on 10/18/2007, -1/+3Or the right wingers would expand Homeland Security to track every US Citizen for the purpose of making sure they're not terrorists. Nut job.
- RonDeline, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2I know one job that's definitely not going anywhere... Brian Wingfield's job. This is just regurgitated cliches This article blows. I can't believe it got dugg up. "Computer programmer jobs are being outsourced!?! OH NO!!!" Get a grip people. Some are, some aren't...
- Rabbittt, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2Is everyone a little more clear about why the MSM hates news bloggers? *evil grin*
- codehkr77, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2As far as computer programmers, if you want to secure your job, go into federal contracting with some level of clearence. Government can't oursource those types of jobs.
- darkstar949, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
PROGRAM-ID. COBOL-COMMENT.
PROCEDURE DIVISION.
PARAGRAPH-1.
DISPLAY 'That's because COBOL is not fun to write.'.
STOP RUN. - inactive, on 10/19/2007, -1/+3Government workers are the worst????? With the Democrats about to blow away the Republicans? I would think the best job in the next 8 years would be in the government. We'll see a HUGE increase of government workers especially with the advent of Hillarycare.
- vypergts, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2http://www.thebudgetgraph.com/poster/
- inactive, on 10/18/2007, -0/+2Unemployed again, huh?
- bmartin, on 10/19/2007, -0/+2No, what scares me is that a lot of our government is run by idiots. The lassiez faire attitude towards the economy has worked wonders. The problem comes when you have some ***** decide that invading countries in the middle east is a profitable idea. Sure, there are a lot of government jobs, but it seems like everyone else is closing shop. The more the government interferes with the economy, the worse it gets.
- youareanidiot, on 10/19/2007, -0/+1dugg for ten month year old
- inactive, on 10/19/2007, -2/+3With everything now being standardized this is just not true. You are not spending your summer building a lesson plan. You are taking your summers off and all those other vacation days throughout the school year.
I would agree with you on the time spent grading papers, etc. in the evening except for the fact that kids are coming out of school with the most piss-poor education. I suspect any teacher in the U.S. teaching grades 7-12 is nothing more than a glorified babysitter.
And for a babysitter with summers off your income is pretty good.
I might also add that, at least in Minnesota, teachers are allowed to draw from unemployment insurance all summer.
Seems like a pretty good deal to me. - bhowell, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1"I say pay the teachers who do well (by way of their students learning) much more and get rid of the teachers who are just punching a clock, they are just hurting their students."
While that's a noble idea, it's hard to implement in a fair way. Chances are the administrators would think it'd be a good idea to use a standardized test to measure teachers' performance (at the middle/high school level) -- heck they do that already. Unfortunately standardized tests are riddled with problems; they restrict the teacher's creativity and force them to teach to the test, often instead of doing something more fun/interesting/educational for the students. The students' performance on the tests depends significantly on their previous teachers, as well as their general motivation. A teacher who teaches a basic level course might do a great job teaching and getting the kids interested, but is still at a disadvantage to say an AP-level teacher, since the AP students' backgrounds probably involved more advanced material. - christopher, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1I'm not sure about everywhere, but in FL they get paid for 9 months but they may choose to have that reorganized into payments which take place over a year.
- Plopfish, on 10/18/2007, -1/+2The summary of the article maybe, but the in pictures, also Forbes, clearly states:
"Software engineers and computer database administrators will see huge gains in their field (at least 40% growth in job creation in both cases, the government says), but computer programmers? Forget about it. " - zeratum, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Well I think the computer programmer statistic is a bit misleading. The number of people in pure programming positions may rise at a slow rate, but there is a huge growing demand for people in other positions who know programming, which makes CS people very valuable. The biggest example of this is in finance, many of the entry level positions at Wall Street investment banks and hedge funds require programming skills and are willing to pay a lot more for CS people with some background in economics than software companies are. I see in my graduating class of CS students a very high percentage going to work for Wall Street rather than software companies or grad schools.
I don't think the projected slow growth has to do with a slowdown in demand from traditional programmer hirers, but rather a much higher demand for people in other industries, particularly finance, to gobble up as many programmers as possible. Even if they only intend to use them for very little or no programming CS people are highly regarded for their logical and quantitative skills which is becoming more important in pretty much every industry out there. - asaturn, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1"successful" is doublespeak for "born into money"
and you're wrong, because it's those people who are in charge of the government, so why would they punish themselves? - divrekku, on 10/18/2007, -1/+2Or affect. As in globalization is affecting outsourcing. I verbed it.
- divrekku, on 10/18/2007, -0/+1Nice commentary.
BTW firms have been saying the same thing about the transition from manufacturing to financial services since WWI. Its happening but I'm not sure why people are surprised about it... Its an affect of globalization. - tketter, on 10/18/2007, -1/+2The author is wrong. Here is a quote from the dept. of Labor's website:"Computer software engineers are projected to be one of the fastest growing occupations over the 2004-14 period." Check it out for yourself: http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos267.htm
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