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- Typhoon2009, on 07/12/2008, -0/+14The "Kramer" look has worked wonders for me.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+8You're telling the world that you've completely given up. I like to wrap myself in velvet.
- WishItWerePaul, on 07/12/2008, -4/+12does ANYONE believe this crap? seriously?
if i'm looking to hire you, your attire is far from being my first consideration. your attire will tell me alot about you, but YOU CAN'T HELP IT. keep your attire and self clean, hygenic etc, but just be yourself, be sharp, get a good nights sleep, relax and show me YOU. if in the course of working with you, i find that you successfully fooled me, but in fact you're someone else, well, we'll part ways very quickly. nothing to do with _you_, its just i was looking for someone else.
be yourself, constantly better yourself to keep competent in your job specialty and you'll do just fine. - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+7i got rid of my mowhawk, got a very good job, and then my boss told me i should have kept it
- Wakkyweed, on 07/12/2008, -0/+7Gee, looks like you picked the wrong profession! I have flexible working hours, get good pay, have job security, work at my own pace, wear whatever I want within reason, get raises every year and bonuses every 6 months, and really enjoy the work I do.
Why waste your life doing something that you hate? Get out of the cubicle and forge yourself a new career path. - blastron, on 07/12/2008, -1/+7This article talks a lot about how to look more professional, but not the importance of matching the level of professionalism that your potential co-workers display. While it may be important for a banker to show up in a sharp suit or a teacher to show up in a clean, mature outfit, a video game programmer showing up for an interview wearing an untucked button-down shirt and a clean pair of jeans actually has an edge on the programmer showing up in shirt and tie: he knows the environment he's getting in to and will have an easier time fitting in.
- drakia, on 07/12/2008, -0/+6I'd rather not have a stuck up prick of a boss who rates me on how well I dress, let alone what watch I wear, thank you.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+5The guy's "makeover" was completely overdone and unnecessary. He could've looked great on half the price. And far less than that if you talk to my relatives who make cheapness a science.
- crapmatic, on 07/12/2008, -1/+6This is just a 2000-word essay about common sense.
""Higher education is not a fashion runway - it's a professional atmosphere."
No *****! - geardosdotnet, on 07/12/2008, -1/+5Those are also the same employers who notice skin colour when hiring.
- Tony6785, on 07/12/2008, -1/+5Yes, people DO believe this crap because it has been scientifically proven to have an effect. Do you think for a second that of two people with identical credentials and kind demeanors, the worse dressed applicant is likely to land the spot? No; that's because the impression formed in the head of the interviewer within 10 seconds of meeting the applicant. The majority of conclusions drawn about job applicants are formed in the first 60-90 seconds of any interview, and if you dress, look, and smell awful you can only hurt yourself.
A tiny bit of effort goes a long, long way. - cygnus2112, on 07/12/2008, -1/+5As long as it isn't sweatpants. You know the message you’re sending out to the world with sweatpants?
- notoneofus, on 07/12/2008, -0/+4I was worried about an interview I was going to have at a software company. I had long hair, and kept that, but shaved off my week's growth of facial hair, figuring that was just polite. I showed up for the interview and all 4 people to interview me had a week's growth or more of facial hair.
I got the job anyway, but it led me to stop worrying so much and just be me. They hired me for what I could do, and that was it. - s0nicfreak, on 07/12/2008, -0/+3It's not wasting money if you still use the butter to cook afterwards.
- WishItWerePaul, on 07/12/2008, -0/+3exactly. and then people spend half their lives choosing shoes for interviews instead of sharpening their job skills and then wonder how come they get passed over for a geeky asian dude. well, he worked his ass off studying while you were selecting your fancy shoes is why.
oh well, like me saying it here will change anyones mind ;) - nobodyfresh, on 07/12/2008, -0/+3that didn't happen
- darny, on 07/12/2008, -1/+4you sound like the guy i'm about to fire.
- kuzotz, on 07/12/2008, -1/+4none of this will get you a job. You have to know the right people. That's how it works in America.
- Ravatar, on 07/13/2008, -0/+3"Yes, people DO believe this crap because it has been scientifically proven to have an effect."
You're right, but NOT for the reason you think you're right. Much of these tips will do nothing except bolster you self-confidence which will show through in the interview and THAT'S where the difference comes into play. - WishItWerePaul, on 07/12/2008, -0/+3nice attitude. just because you talk something down it doesnt become demeaning unless thats your attitude.
we all depend on each other in one way or another. sometimes we gather into teams to get larger jobs done. it takes a "boss" to keep a team together and working.
that boss just as much depends on every member of the team as vice versa. he/she also depends on people higher up.
this is a connected world, get used to it.
of course there's an alternative, become a communist and hassle your government to keep welfare going.
have you an alternative to offer besides bitching? - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+4You're from St Louis, not exactly a New York or a London, so what the ***** would you know about fashion or "higher economics"? Something tells me that you're that ***** who makes $80,000-120,000/year (which is definitely fine enough to live on, especially in a place of "lower economics" like St. Louis) who has an enormous house that he can barely afford, leases a European car, and who spends his weekends at the golf course (when he's not too busy on digg, of course) pretending to be richer than he really is.
I'm not looking for a job as an investment banker or an executive so why the ***** should I waste my money on "upper economics" fashion? - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+4First impression's mean a lot and clothes can have a big impact. At my interview for my current internship I wore a suit and tie. In the waiting room there was one girl in a pant-suit, a guy in a suit, a kid in a dress shirt and one with a flamboyant pink polo shirt. There is no question that he got laughed out of the office. As for the comment the dress is too formal for you the job isn't your style that's really ludicrous. I've worn a suit exactly 3 times in my life - one of which was too my present job interview. Part of getting a good job like the one I have is dressing for the part, if you want to wear a wife beater and shorts then you need to work in a garage or something. In the real world you have to dress to impress.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+3Let me guess, just got fired?
- ViperCTW, on 07/12/2008, -1/+3So being a hippie doesn't pay as much as you expected huh?
- Ravatar, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2Yeah wtf is with this nonsense. Wear what makes you comfortable and what you would PREFER to wear to work yourself. If the dress is too formal for you, the job probably wasn't your style anyway, keep looking.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2I will leave those 'Dior pumps' at home, whatever the f*** that is
- WishItWerePaul, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2nobody suggests you should look/smell and dress awful.
what i said was, be neat, attire appropriately but focus on being yourself and show off your skills.
the article is as such because its easier to write about shoes than about how to become more competent. one has to exercise a little common sense about how to spend their time. few minutes on polishing shoes is not a bad idea if the rest of the time you spend polishing your job skills. - burjzyntski, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2shaving with butter always helps give your skin that "i need a job so i can afford soap" look.
- Stiffler, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2This shows how out of touch the media is with what really goes on in our society. The typical High School teacher cannot afford $165 for a belt. They put a gal looking to teach High School English in an outfit that costs over $800. Not many teachers would be able to spend half their take home on a single outfit.
- ViperCTW, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2Is this really that hard?
Low level jobs (Wal-Mart, small office, etc) - Business casual
Office jobs - Suit and tie
As far as hair style, leave that really rocking mohawk you've been putting up on the weekends down, and just keep it relatively neat. - Lateralis1, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2And you forgot to mention what you do
- Residents, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2I recommend making sure you're not under dressed. Other than that, I've had 100% luck over 4 jobs with leaving tattoos out and all my earrings in. It just comes down to the "Do you have any questions for me?" part of the interview. Then I say "Well yes, I have all my tattoos in plain sight and earrings in because I want you to know that these things are a part of who I am. I wanted to ask if you have any dress codes or practices that you would like me to use if I come in for a day at work" and most people say something like "I greatly appreciate that" then proceed to tell me if I can't have visible tattoos or "Only 2 earrings for a male" or whatever they want. I've never failed to get the job yet. My current employer doesn't even care at all and I work as a network administrator/technician. Tattoos, earrings, doesn't matter to him.
- Dustin00, on 07/12/2008, -0/+2LOL! I wanna see the "down, neat mohawk".
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1i'm doing a statup i'm talking to angels (no not the divine kind though i'd be into that as well)
so i cut my waist length blonde hair to shoulder length ditched the jeans for linen pants and zomg even skirts
the message: this is boardroom not baywatch - mindovermat, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1if they don't like you for who you are, then you don't need them. i'm not going to wear a mask if someone doesn't like my face.
- bipolarruledout, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1I can't help but think that I have been over dressed for the last few interviews I have gone on. Do I go with the sportcoat or skip it? Sometimes I even think the tie is too much. The problem is that I don't want to give the impression of being overqualified.
- WishItWerePaul, on 07/12/2008, -1/+2cuicledrone, i feel very sorry for your experience. if i may, let me give you a bit of advice:
RUN
get out of where you are. whether this is geography, or your professional level you figure that out, but - GET OUT. got to school, learn from other people. easiest to change is in fact geography so if you can't figure out what it is - relocate.
you only have one life, save it!
what you've experienced isnt norm. it may be norm in the circle you're stuck in, but you dont have to be there.
its hard but you sound young, you've time to change things around. i moved to the states at the age of 27 with zero money, i'm fairly well off now and certainly have seen lots of great people on the way. black/yellow/brown/whatever, all sorts of people and i got along with most of them nicely. America is a great country, if thats where you are.
just keep in mind, noone owes you any favors, MAKE YOUR OWN LIFE. - WishItWerePaul, on 07/13/2008, -0/+1@ Tony: because by saying what it does the article misleads people into wasting resources (money and time) towards doing something which will unlikely shift odds in their advantage.
you'd be much better served if you:
think few job related scenarios, questions you might get asked, think and write down the answers. script them and then learn so you can pronounce your stuff casually and confidently without appearing too surprised by incoming questions.
practice your speaking and communicating skills. go practice with a buddy have them ask you questions and answer them.
reread whatever books relevant to your job. if you're a computer geek, brush up on your core manuals. carefully go through job requirements and imagine what skill might interest them, reread again whatever reading you think is relevant.
further, spend time and script anything and everything you can think of in terms of interaction you can anticipate during the interview. prep a story or two about yourself to demo particular skill (you know last year when we had flood we got stuck on a roof, so to make drinking water i rigged .... etc) short sweet flattering to yourself stories can serve you really well.
chances are jobhunting will take more than a single interview. so once you're done, go write down questions you got. rethink and answer them again. take time to come up with answers which will show you off in the best light. script the answers so you can memorize them later.
and practice practice practice.
as you hone in your skills you'll be surprised how many of the questions that come up during interviews you'll have solid scripted answers for.
this is what'll get you a good job. as far as your shoes.. definitely keep them clean and neat, in style if possible. beyond that, do NOT waste your time and money. - Wakkyweed, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1@ Lateralis - I didn't forget to mention what I do for a living, I just didn't think that it was relative to the discussion. The point is that if your career sucks, then it's up to you to either do something about it or quit bitching.
And If you really want to know, I'm a Private Chef. It's a great job, if you have the talent for it. - inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+2Shaving with butter is more expensive than shaving with shaving cream. You could buy soap and shaving cream with the money that you save by NOT shaving with butter.
- LordMonboddo, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1If I were a hiring manager, I would never hire someone that writes 'alot'. That would be a dead give away as to the intelligence of the person seeking a job.
- inactive, on 07/12/2008, -1/+2Typical media arrogance with these endless articles being pumped out of the Corporate ***** like clockwork.
wheres the stories of the rest of America.
you know
The Blue collar Joe and Jane....I guess the McDonald's and Walmart vest and apron is all they need to know. - WishItWerePaul, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1if you remove negative undertones from this statement, you're actually right. its about making connections with people.
learn how to connect with people. its important.
after all, if you're not known, if your better qualities not known, how the heck will you get hired, literally? - wassim2k, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1Our company has a tough time finding good people. The last thing we care about is how they dress.
- bjs3171, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1if the job you're applying to is an "untucked button down shirt/jeans" kinda place, which my job is, then to the interview, i'd just wear some slightly nicer slacks. still casual, but one step above jeans. i'd even still leave the shirt un-tucked.
- Tony6785, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1What makes you think this is a suggestion in lieu of improving your skills? Being well dressed, mannered, and groomed will never replace your personal ability to perform the job, but it never hurts.
- kuzotz, on 07/12/2008, -0/+1that's a hug problem just go casual then. button down and slacks.
- adeptusliberus, on 07/14/2008, -0/+1with that kind of attitude, I'd probably fire him too.
- SHannonOBrien, on 07/13/2008, -0/+0You're right! That's so hypocritical that they're condescending people just out of college or high school by telling them it's a job-- not a runway and yet they're telling them to buy $800 clothes? Who's really out of touch with "the real world?"
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